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The code has few comments but gotta love when you can tell someone was having fun!

https://github.com/ScalingIntelligence/tokasaurus/blob/65efb...

I’m honestly impressed that a pure python implementation can beat out vLLM and SGLang. Granted they lean on FlashInfer, and of course torch.compile has gotten incredibly powerful in the last few years. Though dynamic shapes have still been a huge thorn in my side, I’ll need to look closer at how they pulled it off…

I'm curious what how big is latency tradeoff. I know assumption here is that it does not matter in those use cases but what order of magnitude it is? 10x? 100x?

this is important for usage in "soft realtime" application, where you do not need instant response but someone is still waiting.

if latency is really big, then it can only be used for basically background processes.

> On throughput-focused benchmarks, Tokasaurus can outperform vLLM and SGLang by up to 3x+.

Looks like they don't compare to TensorRT-LLM throughput numbers which, last I checked, are SOTA in open source.

While Tokasaurus’s Async-TP shows impressive throughput gains, it seems over-engineered for common use cases. The CPU overhead from async tensor parallelism only pays off at 6k+ token batches, and you need NVLink-connected GPUs to see real benefits. Most prod deployments don’t need this complexity — you’re better off with simpler approaches unless you’re specifically optimizing for massive batch throughput. The adaptive manager skipping “optional” tasks under load also feels concerning from a reliability perspective.

Cool project! The codebase is simple and well documented, a good starting point for anyone interested in how to implement a high-performance inference engine. The prefix sharing is very relevant for anyone running batch inference to generate RL rollouts.

Stanford was edgy enough to reefer to “toking” in the moniker, but exercises restraint by depicting the titular thunder lizard smoking a putatively conventional tobacco cigarette.

I am hoping to use this “Tokasaurus” nickname with affection for my neighbors. If Stanford is ok with informal usage.

Success with Meta AI / Llama 4:

Hey Meta, I would like to see an image of a Tyrannosaurus Rex, who is clad in a leather jacket, sunglasses, and fedora. He is so cool looking, and smoking a joint of marijuana, and his image is superimposed against a skyline of Phoenix in the golden glow of sunset.

Can you light up the joint with a glowing tip?

Given chat and API needs for low-latency, llama.cpp is probably still the best choice for self hosted models with or without GPU support. And Ollama is the leader for wrapping llama.cpp.

Because Tokasaurus was mentioned as better than Ollama for conducting darwinian godel machine operations (self-improvement), I looked for the linked repo on GitHub and it was 404. So glad it is back https://github.com/ScalingIntelligence/tokasaurus.

Shame this is written in Python, looks very interesting, but I'm no expert in this field.

If there is anything here worth using, it's entirely possible that the llama.cpp crew can save it from vanishing into obscurity.