Two Slice, a font that's only 2px tall (joefatula.com)

192 points by JdeBP 9 hours ago

NooneAtAll3 4 minutes ago

I was so confused why "o" in the example was wider than "o" written myself - until I understood that example has it capitalized... That seems useless

JdeBP 9 hours ago

There's a whole subculture for fonts smaller than 8 by 8, with real world uses for things such as small LED displays, for example. This is at the extreme end, though.

Also https://stormgold.itch.io/picket-right-font

omoikane 5 hours ago

I wonder if there are really tiny fonts that make use of color. For example, this 2-pixel wide Picket Right font could theoretically be even thinner if we were to use sub-pixel features.

At least, I think the 2-pixel high Two Slice font can be more legible with some anti-aliasing.

sedatk 4 hours ago

Cthulhu_ 24 minutes ago

thfuran 39 minutes ago

Don’t stop at colors. Just add a ligature for every string and support for animations, and you have yourself a font that can render any alphanumeric string in a single pixel. I’ll need to brush up on Morse code though.

eichin 3 hours ago

and https://stormgold.itch.io/two-slice - are these the same authors or what?

eichin 2 hours ago

Ah! the reddit user description hoverbox for u/trampolinebears says "Fonts: stormgold.itch.io" so that connects the dots.

iguessthislldo 5 hours ago

That one is relatively easier to read, I guess because it looks like normal font that was cut into strips.

typpilol 5 hours ago

Ya literally I could make out 85% quickly.

The linked one is unreadable at all to me lol

malnourish 6 hours ago

Thanks for sharing this. I enjoy seeing these cool subcultures; they evoke the hacker ethos.

JohnDeHope 6 hours ago

I’m not a hacker but I really appreciate their ethos. It’s like punk. I’m not punk either. But I will defend it all with my dying breathe.

JdeBP 3 hours ago

hdjrudni 6 hours ago

> such as small LED displays

The highest DPI screen is 127,000 PPI. You could fit over 14,000 lines of 8x8 text in a single inch tall screen.

For reference, a decent monitor is 140 PPI.

I'm pretty sure we don't need to go below 8x8 if physical size is the issue.

crq-yml 5 hours ago

Pad grid controllers like the Novation Launchpad, and its indie, open-source counterpart, Mystrix Pro, have an 8x8 grid. At first this style of controller didn't use any lights, but as the manufacturing and features progressed, they went towards one RGB LED per pad. So, of course, you end up doing some text and graphics on the resulting grid. Mystrix uses a scrolling marquee which isn't ideal, but does get the job done.

And yeah, you could throw on more hardware to have a display nearby and use that for text. That is not the problem being solved though.

bongodongobob 4 hours ago

No, small LED displays with like 25 ppi. Think arduino/embedded.

jl6 an hour ago

I think readability is helped a lot by the low entropy of English words and sentences, i.e. if you can’t make out one letter, you’ll probably get it anyway from the context.

It’s not so readable if you test it with random strings.

kstrauser 5 hours ago

I'm blown away. I'd have sworn that wasn't possible. It's brilliant. Bravo.

addaon 6 hours ago

Capital H is cursed... unconnected pixels, indistinguishable from 'ii' or "II". The concept's cool, but for this one point the wrong choice was made.

PenguinRevolver 5 hours ago

Try reading "HiGh sky buys The lies" in the font. Pretty difficult to make out what it says...

jibcage an hour ago

I think most of what makes this font readable is the user using context to sort of guess at what the word could be.

If you start writing things that aren’t sentences normal people would use (or especially if you start mixing case) it doesn’t hold up. Still interesting for a “normal” use case though.

jasonjmcghee 6 hours ago

I'm more concerned about V X Y all being identical.

How will I know if it's waxy or wavy?

throwaway808081 6 hours ago

Like all of language: context.

Why would hair be like 80s synthpop, or potatoes be in any way related to a by-product of honey?

xboxnolifes an hour ago

Eric_WVGG 4 hours ago

Really like that zero glyph. I wonder if, instead of Roman numerals, one could use ligatures to encode numeric strings as binary… 42 as 010101

(I sort of randomly picked 42, didn't know it was such an interesting string… Douglas Adams must have known that)

sugarkjube 2 hours ago

101010 - I'm guessing you know, and want to find out how long it takes for someone to notice and respond.

hidroto an hour ago

little endian vs big endian.

rtrgrd 3 hours ago

Very cool - note that lowercase b, l and h are the same

Dwedit 3 hours ago

Meanwhile, 3x5 fonts are actually usable.

Jowsey 5 hours ago

Some of the characters/words (particularly "c"/"can") sort of look like they've been cropped from the top, trusting the brain to fill in the bottom half. Reminds me of what Sandisk did with the "S" in their redesign. I wonder if there's any research behind this?

wingmanjd 2 hours ago

I wish I had this back capability when I used to program my TI graphing calculators back in highschool!

shakna 2 hours ago

> You can probably read this, even if you wish you couldn't.

Um... Nope. I can't.

I can get some of the letters, but not most of them, unfortunately.

Love the concept, and the art, that goes into things like this. But I just cannot read it.*

* I have nerve problems in my eyes. I'm not legally blind... Most of the time.

jader201 2 hours ago

Yeah, a lot of words/letters made sense, but I definitely had to use some deduction to read it.

Interesting, and given the limitation, it’s quite impressive.

But I think “probably” is optimistic. I’d say “possibly” is more realistic.

magackame 5 hours ago

I wonder if it's possible to train to read text encoded as one colored pixel per letter, or even per token.

userbinator 4 hours ago

Given how people can learn languages, absolutely yes.

BSOhealth 5 hours ago

I love this. It speaks to me in a similar ways as a lot of the AI zeitgeist—why shouldn’t we optimize for how the brain actually operates at scale versus hundreds-years-old ideas about ligatures designed for reading in candlelight? (In the AI case, a romanticism for having to learn and prove memory in such a rote way)

ChrisArchitect 3 hours ago

A thread last year with lots of related subpixel type things:

Nanofont3x4: Smallest readable 3x4 font with lowercase (2015)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39735675

shmerl an hour ago

I can't really read anything with that, so somewhat readable is very moot.

matznerd 6 hours ago

okay but what about "c" being nearly the same as "z", neither of which look like the character and are nearly(?) identical. Is our brain supposed to just be able to figure it out?

sharkjacobs 4 hours ago

O and 0 are very similar in lots of typefaces. And I and l and 1. Even u and v. Your brain's pretty good at figuring it out. Context helps a lot.

cal85 6 hours ago

yeah I can read it ok

rclkrtrzckr an hour ago

Pity there's no italics ...

SCNR

sehugg 5 hours ago

The Atari 2600 had pretty good vertical resolution (assuming you could set up the next line in 76 cycles) but limited horizontal resolution. A 3x5 font is possible, but good luck distinguishing N from M.

This font seems to use characters up to 5 pixels wide, which helps with its near-legibility.

Dwedit 3 hours ago

The thing to do with a 3x5 font is to make the capital N into a giant lowercase n. Then M H and W all become similar letters, just with a different location for the horizontal bar.

boredhedgehog 2 hours ago

That's one of the possibilities, but one can also use asymmetry to evoke an illusion of diagonality, as in this font:

https://fontstruct.com/fontstructions/show/1426620/3x6-pixel...

eipipuz 4 hours ago

Is it just me or the s Z and z S should be swapped?

kelvinquee 6 hours ago

Love this. Brings so much joy. Try some punctuation. Hilarity ensues.

crm9125 4 hours ago

Cool. I hate it.