Alleged Jabber Zeus Coder 'MrICQ' in U.S. Custody (krebsonsecurity.com)
147 points by todsacerdoti 16 hours ago
mikkupikku 13 hours ago
Imagine having these sort of warrants hanging over your head and just casually deciding to do a little international traveling. Guys like this are constantly getting nabbed this way. I wonder if being a wanted man for so long has some sort of psychological effect that makes people take more risks to get it over with.
irjustin 12 hours ago
I imagine the general assumption is that you don't realize that you've been ID'ed. That they traveled before and nothing happened so traveling again isn't a big deal because all the "tricks" they used to cover their tracks worked.
Gibbon1 5 hours ago
Friend of mine has a story from 50 years ago. Guy he knew was dealing coke. Got spooked and stopped selling. Three years later he thought it'd all blown over. Set up a another deal and got popped.
Another friend that worked IT at a slaughter house said one of the bikers that worked their said, the feds aren't good at figuring you out. But when they do they never stop watching you.
matwood 4 hours ago
manquer 9 hours ago
I would imagine that is lot more likely that is just only the official story rather than what actually happens behind the scenes in these situations.
In the background there could be deals with the countries protecting them or with the target directly or a existing deal they had is off now. It may even be unrelated, wasn't worth expending the diplomatic capital before, but they are a connection to someone else more important and so on.
It could also be the targets were captured in a illegal way, no country wants to be diplomatically humiliated and the prosecuting one wouldn't want to disclose their covert ops capabilities.
Announced News is more often only a Press Release, we shouldn't be taking them literally.
_zoltan_ 4 hours ago
if you read the article it links to an Italian supreme court summary that apparently states he has lost his appeal to not get extradited, so after that it shouldn't have been a surprise that... he was extradited.
ribosometronome 6 hours ago
>captured in a illegal way
Tracked down in an illegal way? Sure, quite possibly. But he's going to get a trial. If he were kidnapped out of Italy by the CIA or something, it seems like it would be hard to keep that from coming out.
aswegs8 3 hours ago
reisse 11 hours ago
From the other point of view, the abundance of stories when the high-profile criminal was catched doing something stupid, and the relative absence of ones when the criminal was catched in some clever way may mean the law enforcement is doing their job poorly.
Polizeiposaune 11 hours ago
Operation Flagship in 1985 was one of the clever ones -- US marshalls nabbed 101 wanted fugitives on a single day at a stadium, where they were expecting to receive two free tickets to an NFL game...
ghostpepper 8 hours ago
letmetweakit 2 hours ago
BolexNOLA 10 hours ago
cbsmith 4 hours ago
s/catched/caught/g
tobyjsullivan 13 hours ago
Hypothetically, how would someone know there was a warrant out for their arrest in another country? That doesn’t seem like public information.
I figure most cyber criminals assume they are untraceable until they get arrested.
monerozcash 4 hours ago
In this particular case the person arrested had been very publicly indicted years ago and was most certainly aware.
mito88 12 hours ago
interpol
cwillu 7 hours ago
chc4 13 hours ago
The human brain is just really bad at evaluating risk, especially over long periods of time. A lot of people are wanted overseas for years or even decades without anything happening, which makes it hard to maintain the mindset of being at risk without falling back to "eh, I've been fine this long"; a lot of them do foreign travel anyway and get away with it, which makes it hard to not fall into "what's one more vacation to a extradition-friendly country".
dbancajas 9 hours ago
How can you ID these guys if they get a new passport. Changed hairstyle and do some surgery to the face?
normie3000 9 hours ago
Their name and date of birth?
Cthulhu_ 2 hours ago
pnw 13 hours ago
When you're living in the Russian-occupied part of Ukraine (Donetsk), I can see why you might run that risk.
anonym29 13 hours ago
This was a Ukranian national, not a Russian.
dragonwriter 13 hours ago
hunterpayne 6 hours ago
lofaszvanitt 6 hours ago
Just look at the profile pics of these people and you'll get the answer. They like to show bling, have a perceived invulnerability shield around them, and like to spend the ill gotten gains.
anonym29 13 hours ago
Italian and Greek airports: the bane of otherwise untouchable slavic cybercriminals since 1994
johnQdeveloper 11 hours ago
> Sources close to the investigation say Yuriy Igorevich Rybtsov, a 41-year-old from the Russia-controlled city of Donetsk, Ukraine
I don't think it was casual traveling but getting out of a wartorn country.
nine_k 14 hours ago
«The Jabber Zeus name is derived from the malware they used — a custom version of the ZeuS banking trojan — that stole banking login credentials and would send the group a Jabber instant message each time a new victim entered a one-time passcode at a financial institution website. The gang targeted mostly small to mid-sized businesses, and they were an early pioneer of so-called “man-in-the-browser” attacks, malware that can silently intercept any data that victims submit in a web-based form.»
Plankaluel 2 hours ago
It's shocking how much pictures influence judgment: Without reading much, at first, I thought: Poor guy, maybe he got pulled into something, ...
Then I saw the pictures of him in a leopard fur pajama and indoor sunglasses, and with his (an assumption on my side) trophy wife, and thought: "Naah, he probably deserves it"
Thorrez 2 hours ago
Those 2 pictures were of a different hacker, not of MrICQ.
Plankaluel 2 hours ago
See, that's why you should read the article, I guess :D So the influence is even worse than I thought ...
scoopr 13 hours ago
There is a bbc podcast[0] about evilcorp
morkalork 12 hours ago
The included photos are glorious
WD-42 10 hours ago
This is how I want to picture Russian hackers and they didn’t disappoint.
nullorempty 3 hours ago
Ukranian, technically.
kreyenborgi 3 hours ago
k33n 9 hours ago
Straight out of the 2001 film Swordfish
gethly 4 hours ago
> arrested in Italy and is now in custody in the United States
unpopular opinion, but what is the point of having borders, countries and legal systems if they are all connected into one global unit giving merely an illusion of separation to groups of people?
dragonwriter 4 hours ago
> unpopular opinion, but what is the point of having borders, countries and legal systems if they are all connected into one global unit giving merely an illusion of separation to groups of people?
You didn't state an opinion (unpopular or otherwise), you asked a question.
But the question is very much like asking why have defined property rights, property lines, fences, etc., when people still engage in voluntary trade and other interactions.