What's the difference between a "disc" and a "disk"? (2023) (support.apple.com)
40 points by IndySun 2 hours ago
bmacho an hour ago
> In most varieties of English, disk is the preferred spelling for magnetic media (hence floppy disk, hard disk, disk drive), whereas disc is preferred for optical media (hence compact disc, digital versatile disc, optical disc).
> For all other uses, disk is preferred in American English and acceptable in Canadian English, and disc otherwise.
sandworm101 42 minutes ago
Also, disk is also used in "diskette", whereas disc stands alone. So as magnetic disks shrank and were called disketts on and off, they kept that spelling. Optical discs never really shrank over the years, never being called discettes.
oneplane 35 minutes ago
When they shrank the disc it just became minidisc ;-) But that was technically MO, not just optical. And: it was in a cartridge so I suppose they really should have called it minidisk.
irishcoffee 34 minutes ago
> Also, disk is also used in "diskette", whereas disc stands alone. So as magnetic disks shrank and were called disketts on and off, they kept that spelling. Optical discs never really shrank over the years, never being called discettes.
How old are you? Nothing you said is accurate.
sandworm101 14 minutes ago
sedatk an hour ago
The term "disc" for storage predates optical media. "Disc" was the common spelling for a disk (like a floppy disk) on British 8-bit computers like Amstrad CPC or Sinclair Spectrum.[1][2]
It seems like the distinction simply comes from British and American preferences.[3]
I have no idea how Apple jumped to such an arbitrary conclusion.
[1] Kempston Disc Interface manual: https://k1.spdns.de/Vintage/Sinclair/82/Peripherals/Disc%20I...
[2] Amstrad Disc Drive Interface manual: https://www.cpcwiki.eu/imgs/3/3f/DDI-1_User_Manual.pdf
[3] Etymonline entry for "disk": https://www.etymonline.com/word/disk
Doctor_Fegg an hour ago
Disk was already the standard spelling in the UK by 1984 (in a computing context), just as program was used in preference to programme. But Amstrad mistyped it as disc on the plastic mouldings for their first CPC, and were too cheap to change them. Consequently CPC 3in disks were always called discs even into the 90s.
sedatk an hour ago
Did Acorn also misspell it in BBC Micro manual in 1984?
undefined 13 minutes ago
undefined 15 minutes ago
MarkusQ an hour ago
This is goofy. The difference was originally regional (US/UK), and which caught on depended on which product dominated which sub-market. There's no semantic difference.
innocentoldguy an hour ago
Philips is the company that came up with the term "Compact Disc" for CDs, so we can blame them for goofing up the regional spellings and making the world more confusing.
I think Alan Shugart (or at least his team at IBM) started calling portable data disks "floppy disks," and then "hard disk" emerged to differentiate rigid disks from bendy ones. Maybe we can also blame him and his team.
The important thing is that someone gets blamed. :D
fainpul an hour ago
And where is the "drive" in an SSD?
Trying to explain arbitrary words with logic always fails.
undefined an hour ago
actionfromafar 34 minutes ago
Same as the Alcubierre drive! ;)
coffee-- 2 hours ago
There was a subculture communicating on FIDOnet about collecting AOL installation media (3.5" disks) and reusing them. Somehow we ended up coining the term "bisk" to refer to AOL's given-away media, and much sadness was had when they moved to CDs.
So add one more to the list: a commercial disk reused for your custom .WAD files can be a bisk.
OhMeadhbh an hour ago
Tron, if I remember correctly, had DISCS instead of DISKS. And if modern CPUs are RISCy, then maybe modern Intel architecture CPUs are Risky.
bonesss an hour ago
The last letter.
[Did I pass the interview? No? Understandable.]
addaon 41 minutes ago
Always thought that “disc” was the original word for an object of a certain shape. As they evolved for computer storage, we got smaller diskettes… which were abbreviated to disks.
rikthevik an hour ago
A disc looks like a disc, and a disk doesn't look like a disc.
delichon an hour ago
sceptic - skeptic
mollusc - mollusk
celt - kelt
cabob - kabob
disc - disk
Corporate wants you to find the difference.9rx an hour ago
sceptic - someone inclined to question or doubt what they sense optically.
skeptic - someone inclined to question or doubt what they sense magnetically.
asdfman123 an hour ago
As a quick and dirty heuristic: the C in disc is for CD (or other optical media).
undefined an hour ago
gaigalas an hour ago
Apple, the etymology company.
OhMeadhbh an hour ago
They certainly do have bugs.
[Edit. Sorry, misread your comment as saying "entomology."]
_wire_ 27 minutes ago
A disk is any planar circular shape.
A disc is a disk-shaped object, such as in the form of a plastic dingus: Frisbee flying disc.
adamdonahue an hour ago
So a floppy disk has a disc inside?
KwanEsq an hour ago
No because they weren't optical, they were magnetic.
onraglanroad an hour ago
Yes it did. They were magnetic disks. And they were floppy. The outer case of a 3.5" was solid but just rip it open and you can see the disk itself is floppy.
Edit: oh right, you're talking about the different spellings. Those were entirely arbitrary. We mixed between the two.
irishcoffee an hour ago
Sure does.
dboreham 29 minutes ago
Presumably this apple page is someone's idea of an April fool, date notwithstanding.
"Disc" is the correct spelling of the flat circular thing.
"Disk" was invented by someone in the 1980s either as an attempt at a trade name, or because they couldn't spell.
Then other people continued the mis spelling.
irishcoffee 31 minutes ago
Does anyone have a spate tire? My tyre popped, probably because someone jammed a 'y' in the middle.
dTal 2 hours ago
Disc = round part visible
Disk = round part hidden or no round part
Have I got it!?
Someone 2 hours ago
I think their primary difference is disc = optical, disk = magnetic. That’s what they mention first.
All of that “in the UK”.
Looking at the store, they’re using “SSD Storage” for SSD.
Symbiote an hour ago
The British spelling was used by Philips when they launched the Compact Disc with Sony.
Disk was used by American companies inventing hard disks, floppy disks etc.
British software often used "disc" for both, e.g. RISC OS on Acorn/ARM/Raspberry Pi [1].
[1] https://arcwiki.org.uk/index.php/RISC_OS_3 (see screenshot)
HPsquared an hour ago
SSD could stand for "SSD Storage Device".
Bring back recursive acronyms!
Wowfunhappy an hour ago
SSD, of course, stands for Solid State Dis[c,k]...
9rx an hour ago
undefined 2 hours ago
Gualdrapo an hour ago
When I was much more active in Reddit did one time a meme for r/peloton of Froome yelling at disc brakes - but wrote it as "Old man yells at disk brakes".
Nobody told me anything so I guessed it was good grammar and such.
But then noticed everyone calls them "disc brakes"
dheera an hour ago
What about bloc vs block
ChrisArchitect 2 hours ago
"Disks" as in floppy disks, are removable also. Some weird seperation choices in this 'article'.
dcminter an hour ago
Plus a common alternative to "hard drive" was "hard disk."
My late father never quite got out of the habit of calling it the "Winchester" - itself a nickname for a specific IBM drive model.
undefined an hour ago
onraglanroad an hour ago
More modern hard disks included the drive mechanism in one unit.
They used to be separate, so you would mount the hard disk on the drive to make it accessible.
dcminter 19 minutes ago
ghurtado 2 hours ago
Kinda surprising that the article doesn't mention the actual origin of the words:
"Disc" comes from "discus" (the plate thrown in the Olympics)
"Disk" comes from "diskette" (French for "small disc")
I probably just outed myself as a boomer assuming that was common knowledge.
forty an hour ago
Disquette*
In French we say disque for both. it's pronounced the same as disk and disc.
rf15 an hour ago
You are (rightfully) saying that they semantically mean kinda the same thing. That doesn't neatly fit any branding guideline though, I'm sorry.
bitwize an hour ago
Both versions are disque in French. (presumably disquette for "diskette") Don't blame the French for this.
The fact of the matter is that the spelling "disk" probably entered common use from IBM who invented both the hard and the floppy disk, calling the latter the Type 1 Diskette. Enough people were exposed to the "disk" spelling from IBM usage that it kind of stuck, although in the early 1980s the spelling "floppy disc" was sometimes encountered.
DonHopkins an hour ago
Pff! Disc comes from Disco!