Show HN: Jemini – Gemini for the Epstein Files (jmail.world)
162 points by dvrp 16 hours ago
Related: Show HN: JeffTube - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47030797
hokkos a few seconds ago
this ai is too much "aligned" to return anything of value, considering the content it has to look into and the questions it needs to answer.
lukeigel 3 hours ago
Jmail maintainer and co-creator here. Very excited to see that someone finally made Jemini good!
Our development process has been interesting. Although just Riley and I first made Jmail, it's been really gratifying to see companies, journalists, and fellow developers like Diego rise to the occasion to make this entire suite of apps as high quality and extensive as possible.
embedding-shape an hour ago
> Jmail maintainer and co-creator here.
Great, I've been looking to be able to contact you somewhere, hardly a better place :) Thanks for sharing the project btw, and for keeping jmail alive, been useful to dig into some stuff.
However, there seems to be some "injected" or "fake" emails, that I cannot figure out why they're there in the first place. For example this one: https://jmail.world/thread/55b91b46ef1e4487bee131a8505e14a4?...
For that example, the first problem is that there is no link to the source file from the disclosed files, which is strange, because most other emails have that. Secondly, this almost seems to be a "sponsored" email or something, as it has an ad in the top right corner reading "Sponsored by Drop Site News", but clicking that just takes you to some general page, with no clear information how that's related to the fake/injected email. Also, what does "Verified by X" actually mean, did they verify the authenticity of that specific email?
There seems to be a bunch of people confused by those emails and wondering where they are coming from, because it's missing the source link like the others, so there doesn't seem to be a good way to verify those emails. Could you maybe share a bit about what's going on?
lukeigel an hour ago
Yeah, those are mailing lists that people signed him up for after he died, including with a joke name.
He was a very famous figure in August 2019, and normal people spammed his inbox with emails like the below
https://jmail.world/thread/4accfb5f3ed84656e9762740081a4579?...
These are all real emails! We can do a better job making this clear to the user.
embedding-shape an hour ago
lukeigel an hour ago
3rodents an hour ago
That’s just a campaign email with “Pedophiles” as the recipient name, right? Anyone can sign an email address up to a mailing list. All of Trump’s campaign emails are these type of overly friendly weird junk.
embedding-shape an hour ago
venusenvy47 2 hours ago
The Jamazon interface is really nice. I like how clicking on the order number takes you to the email. But I'm not going spend much time on there, after seeing his order for Lolita next to orders for kid toys.
SauntSolaire an hour ago
Along with the orders for kids school uniform skirts a bit later.. tough viewing in context.
Makes it unsettling when it then shows orders for books you've also read. Hard to swallow having anything in common with such a person.
I would have also assumed he got his clothes from much fancier places than Amazon, considering his wealth. Can't beat two day shipping I guess.
Altogether his Amazon orders are disturbing in places, but also somewhat humanizing, which is not what I expected.
baxtr an hour ago
Interesting. The majority of items seems to be books.
SLWW an hour ago
It's passing the initial sniff test; this might be the first valuable use of AI I've seen in a good minute
dvrp an hour ago
We're also skeptical of how AI is being used. Let us know if you have obvious horrible mistakes so we can fix them.
varjag 3 minutes ago
Fedorovism at home
tehjoker 22 minutes ago
When LLMs first came out, my initial impulse, though I didn't pursue it, was that the summarization function was ideal for sorting through FOIA requests. So glad to see stuff like this come to fruition.
embedding-shape an hour ago
Interesting stuff! I'm also slowly diving into the whole Epstein thing, mainly focused on a human-curated wiki (at https://corroborators.wiki, still WIP obviously) and I've had some contributors wanting to use AI for basically filling out details automatically. But I'm using LLMs daily for programming, so I know how much they get wrong.
So about that specific thing, how do you avoid this particular problems with LLMs getting basic things wrong and basically being a lottery if the answer is correct or not? It's the reason I've avoided (and encouraged others to avoid it to) using LLMs too heavily in the process of reading, understanding and summarizing documents, but clearly you've must have figured out some trick to this?
widdershins 41 minutes ago
Ask it to cite the document and page, and verify it yourself.
hkt an hour ago
Why on earth does he have CPAP pipes, an oxygen concentrator, and a pulse oximeter? This is dated 2019 so I assume he was having sleep apnea, but in my nightmares I assume he's keeping someone in a coma.
Xss3 13 minutes ago
Thats an incredibly unsettling thought.
heisgone 2 hours ago
Great! This, along with Webb, the other Epstein AI tool, are amazing effort to find documents. The way you link to files instead of just outputing an answer is amazing. Great works!
krainboltgreene 2 hours ago
This feels like an insanely bad idea.
SlightlyLeftPad 2 hours ago
Interesting, I had the opposite feeling.
sperr11 2 hours ago
Care to elaborate?
spankalee 2 hours ago
If it's using an LLM it'll make stuff up... about people and sex trafficking.
dvrp 2 hours ago
gruez 2 hours ago
NickC25 43 minutes ago
belter 2 hours ago
8note 2 hours ago
for another angle - depending on the provider, theyre going to train on these queries and responses, and i dont want folks training an Epstein LLM, or accidentally putting Epstein behaviour into LLMs