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There is an alternate World Peace Force that just got started recently because I believe, as regimes change, the UN will audit what happened. The issue is there will now be another international body now that will argue the other way. It’s not exactly 3d chess, but, it is chess.

Purchase of TikTok (chess moves).

It's pretty clear that Israel is ethnically cleansing so that they can live in a pure Jewish state.

You know who reminds me of that? Fucking Serbia and they got bombed for it.

I don't know why you're using the past tense here, I was still trying to talk some sense into these people barely two days ago. It's hopeless at this point.

> All the hospitals are now rubble

Hospitals may have been used for retaliation [0], but it is unclear how many & in what capacity (according to accepted conventions, using a hospital to treat wounded combatants wouldn't make it a valid military target, for example; but hiding weapons or personnel would).

[0] One such recent report: https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/...

Two things are valid at once:

- Hamas is a terrorist organization that planned and executed a mass terror campaign, fully knowing and hoping for the reaction. And boasting about it continuously and repeatedly.

- Israel's response was hasty, unplanned, purely driven by emotion at the beginning, and it quickly grew beyond any reason in the next weeks.

> Hamas was insane to think that Bibi would NOT BOMB the Gaza in retaliation.

My theory is that they knew this would happen and they did it because they knew it would garner support (which it did) and they also knew they had nothing to lose because this is what would have happened in the long-term anyway. They chose between a quick death and a slow death. Unfortunately, everyone else who originally chose them to protect them didn't get to choose. I doubt most would have voted for this if they had that choice.

Forensic Architecture, the people who did the spatial reconstruction, have been around for a while. You can see more examples of their investigations here: https://forensic-architecture.org/

What digital reconstruction? They took a witness and basically did what they said in a 3D editor. I don't see anything sophisticated about this. They also did things like count weapon sounds in audio, which might be the only factual reliable data point on this report.

Forensic Architecture is a truly remarkable work. If anybody is unfamiliar with Eyal Weizman, I would highly recommend checking out more of his work. Including the 2014 series Rebel Architecture and some of his talks. He recently did a presentation called "Conditions of Life Calculated" at the David Graeber Memorial Lecture at CIIS that I think gives a lot of insight into why the work being done at Forensic Architecture is so remarkable. He also talks about his work with David Wengrow and the Nebelivka Hypothesis based on novel archeology of ancient Ukrainian cities

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfD1y7WZLpM

alternative FE: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=bfD1y7WZLpM

This is very thorough. Thanks for the direct link.

The case seems pretty clear, especially since the soldiers tried to hide all evidence.

Hamas ? All good?

The media organizations and people who pushed the pro-Israel narrative already understand all of this - it's not a failure, it was their intended goal.

The problem is that both sides lie flagrantly with such frequency that very few claims about the war can be taken at face value.

On the other side there was the famous "hospital bombing" news event early in the war where it was claimed that 500 people were killed, and then within a couple of hours it became obvious that the explosion was caused by a misfiring Hamas rocket, with video from multiple angles of the failure, that it hit an empty parking lot in front of the hospital and only blew out the windows and burnt a few cars, and that no more than a handful of people had been killed.

And also the repeated claims that Israel were lying about the tunnels under Gaza Hospitals, and make videos of one such strike (a bunker buster penetrating the parking lot just outside the entrance) go viral, only for Hamas to later announce that one of the replacement leaders for Sinwar had been killed in that strike, and for excavation to find the bunkers / tunnel network underneath that very hospital.

As well as, earlier in the war, a Hamas bunker w/ data center equipment directly underneath the UNRWA HQ in Gaza.

None of that justifies genuine instances of war crimes and atrocities that Israel may have committed, but there's a reason why people tune out some of the extreme claims that fly around.

It's gonna happen again and again and again until the end of humanity.

> Earshot used echolocation to analyze the audio on the recordings in order to arrive at precise estimates of the shooters’ locations. Echolocation is the process of locating the source of a sound based on an analysis of the sound’s echoes and the environment in which the sound travels. The Israeli military destroyed and cleared so many buildings in the Tel Al-Sultan area where the ambush of the aid workers took place that very few structures remained. This destruction actually strengthened Earshot’s ability to determine the positions and movements of Israeli soldiers, based on identifying the surfaces responsible for clearly distinguishable gunshot echoes. Rather than having multiple buildings reflecting the sound waves, there were only a few standing walls and the emergency vehicles themselves.

Seems like interesting tech.

That battle's been fought and lost. The moderators' suggestion, which I recommend, is to email the moderators.

> If this was happening against the west, people would care a lot more

It’s literally happening in Ukraine and, to a lesser scale but precisely the same in type, Minneapolis. On the other hand, there are conflicts across Africa and Asia which are not receiving half the attention.

And WW2 only has more journalist deaths because some number of the genocide casualties had been journalists before the Holocaust.

Being a journalist typically provides you some protection in times of war, but for journalists who are part of a group suffering genocide, it's a liability.

I didn’t flag. But the top comments are nothing to do with the tech, and aren’t dissimilar from any Gaza War commentary online.

Any posts linked to the IDF committing crimes are automatically flagged on this site (and others). Many bots are at play here.

Mike Huckabee is a clown who was more or less strategically plonked into Israel to feed soothing quotes to the settler minority. I think it'd be an error to assume that his particularly evil flavor of Christian eschatology reflects the political or military policies of Israel (which is saying a lot, since Israel's military policy is very clearly good at producing war crimes).

Huckabee is a Christian Zionist.

I'm sure he sees the death and displacement of millions as a small price to pay to bring about the Rapture in his lifetime.

Keep in mind that these powerful men believe that Jewish people coming back to Israel is the first step of the Apocalypse, and the return of Christ. It is a death cult quite literally trying to bring about the end of the world, and they're ruling the world. Also, they are insanely antisemitic and believe most Jews will go to hell.

https://religiondispatches.org/2025/12/04/mike-huckabee-trie...

They also appear on https://hn.algolia.com/

In https://hckrnews.com these flagged items appear listed. With https://hckrnews.com as my entry into HN I don't see the need for HackerNewsRemovals other than curiosity to see what is removed.

I'll give you the "party line" (i.e. best-effort understanding of HN-moderators perspective) for why articles like this are frequently flagged:

1) The entire discussion is a rehashing of the exact same points every time the topic is posted, and not very insightful

2) The participation rate for experts (or even authors) in the discussed field/topic is very low (compared to programming topics)

3) The discussion rarely stays civil and requires excessive moderation

An observation (have no verbatim quote, but believe from dang) is that there is a significant base of "anti-political", otherwise "known-good" HN participants, that flag topics like this preemptively pretty much regardless of perspective and exact topic (presumably for above reasons). You can certainly still blame the flagging on bots or Zionists, but it's almost certainly not only those.

> Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

@dang any explanation for this being flagged?

Am I still allowed to ask why the moderators don't want people to read and discuss this particular technology story?

Isn't this a tech news site?

this is prime material for HN to flag...

No, its not. And I gladly flagged it.

Redirects set to: talk.politics.misc.

>Most US politicians are blackmailed via Epstein

??? Most? His network was certainly extensive but "most politicians" seems like a significantly overextended extrapolation.

Not Israel, but Russia - good old KGB honeytrap.

> * No one accepts high western "morality" anymore

Is that an accurate trend on an individual basis?

The problem is majority of Israeli citizens think the government isn't doing enough.

Cue the citizens that protested to stop the aid trucks from going into Gaza. The citizens that protested because the Israeli military arrested (after a lot of international pressure) soldiers that were caught raping Palestinian prisoners. They were protesting for the right of soldiers to continue to rape.

Only 5% of Israelis believe that IDF used too much violence in Gaza..

Damn, the IDF got this guy mid-sentence...

Oh, come on.

> The Israeli military was forced to change its story about the ambush several times, following the discovery of the bodies in a mass grave, along with their flattened vehicles, and the emergence of video and audio recordings taken by the aid workers. An internal military inquiry ultimately did not recommend any criminal action against the army units responsible for the incident.

Unfortunately, the takeaway here will be "be better at destroying the evidence". The video is quite damning against their initial claims; it includes an uninterrupted view of their arrival, in marked emergency vehicles with lights on and uniformed personnel, and the gunfire beginning: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/04/world/middleeast/gaza-isr...

That's literally the opposite of how the media game around this genocide has played out. And Forensic Architecture has proven to be a reliable source thoughout the conflict.

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