100M-Row Challenge with PHP (github.com)

161 points by brentroose 12 hours ago

brentroose 12 hours ago

A month ago, I went on a performance quest trying to optimize a PHP script that took 5 days to run. Together with the help of many talented developers, I eventually got it to run in under 30 seconds. This optimization process with so much fun, and so many people pitched in with their ideas; so I eventually decided I wanted to do something more.

That's why I built a performance challenge for the PHP community

The goal of this challenge is to parse 100 million rows of data with PHP, as efficiently as possible. The challenge will run for about two weeks, and at the end there are some prizes for the best entries (amongst the prize is the very sought-after PhpStorm Elephpant, of which we only have a handful left).

I hope people will have fun with it :)

Tade0 9 hours ago

Pitch this to whoever is in charge of performance at Wordpress.

A Wordpress instance will happily take over 20 seconds to fully load if you disable cache.

rectang 5 hours ago

Are you talking about a new, empty WordPress instance running the default theme? Because if so, that doesn't match my anecdotal experience.

If you're talking about a WordPress instance with arbitrary plugins running an arbitrary theme, then sure — but that's an observation about those plugins and themes, not core.

As someone who has to work with WordPress, I have all kinds of issues with it, but "20 seconds to load core with caching disabled" isn't one of them.

lossyalgo 3 hours ago

embedding-shape 8 hours ago

Microbenchmarks are very different from optimizing performance in real applications in wide use though, they could do great on this specific benchmark but still have no clue about how to actually make something large like Wordpress to perform OK out of the box.

tracker1 4 hours ago

Wordpress is something that I cannot believe hasn't been displaced by a service that uses a separate application for editing and delivery.

It seems like something like vercel/cloudflare could host the content-side published as a worker for mostly-static content from a larger application and that would be more beneficial and run better with less risk, for that matter. Having the app editing and auth served from the same location is just begging for the issues WP and plugins have seen.

devmor 4 hours ago

rkozik1989 6 hours ago

Much like anything else your performance is going to vary a lot based on architecture of implementation. You really shouldn't deploying anything into production without some kind of caching. Whether that's done in the application itself or with memcached/redis or varnish or OPcache.

slopinthebag 3 hours ago

LoganDark 5 hours ago

monkey_monkey 8 hours ago

That's often a skill issue.

almosthere 5 hours ago

ge96 4 hours ago

5 days to 30 seconds? What kind of factor/order of magnitude is that damn

What takes 5 days to run

hosteur 4 hours ago

Poorly made analytics/datawarehouse stuff.

slopinthebag 3 hours ago

One query per column per row

gib444 9 hours ago

> A month ago, I went on a performance quest trying to optimize a PHP script that took 5 days to run. Together with the help of many talented developers, I eventually got it to run in under 30 seconds

That's a huge improvement! How much was low hanging fruit unrelated to the PHP interpreter itself, out of curiosity? (E.g. parallelism, faster SQL queries etc)

brentroose 9 hours ago

Almost all, actually. I wrote about it here: https://stitcher.io/blog/11-million-rows-in-seconds

A couple of things I did:

- Cursor based pagination - Combining insert statements - Using database transactions to prevent fsync calls - Moving calculations from the database to PHP - Avoiding serialization where possible

tiffanyh 9 hours ago

Joel_Mckay 7 hours ago

In general, it is bad practice to touch transaction datasets in php script space. Like all foot-guns it leads to Read-modify-write bugs eventually.

Depending on the SQL engine, there are many PHP Cursor optimizations that save moving around large chunks of data.

Clean cached PHP can be fast for REST transactional data parsing, but it is also often used as a bodge language by amateurs. PHP is not slow by default or meant to run persistently (low memory use is nice), but it still gets a lot of justified criticism.

Erlang and Elixir are much better for clients/host budgets, but less intuitive than PHP =3

contingencies an hour ago

Hehe. Optimization ... it's a good way to learn. Earlier in my career I did a lot of PHP. Usually close to bare.

Other than the obvious point that writing an enormous JSON file is a dubious goal in the first place (really), while PHP can be very fast this is probably faster to implement in shell with sed/grep, or ... almost certainly better ... by loading to sqlite then dumping out from there. Your optimization path then likely becomes index specification and processing, and after the initial load potentially query or instance parallelization.

The page confirms sqlite is available.

If the judges whinge and shell_exec() is unavailable as a path, as a more acceptable path that's whinge-tolerant, use PHP's sqlite feature then dump to JSON.

If I wanted to achieve this for some reason in reality, I'd have the file on a memory-backed blockstore before processing, which would yield further gains.

Frankly, this is not much of a programming problem, it's more a system problem, but it's not being specced as such. This shows, in my view, immaturity of conception of the real problem domain (likely IO bound). Right tool for the job.

CyberDildonics 5 hours ago

Using a language that is 100x slower than naive native programs to do a "speed challenge" is like spending your entire day speed walking to run errands when you can just learn how to drive a car.

user3939382 9 hours ago

exec(‘c program that does the parsing’);

Where do I get my prize? ;)

brentroose 9 hours ago

The FAQ states that solutions like FFI are not allowed because the goal is to solve it with PHP :)

kpcyrd 8 hours ago

onion2k 6 hours ago

A month ago, I went on a performance quest trying to optimize a PHP script that took 5 days to run. Together with the help of many talented developers, I eventually got it to run in under 30 seconds.

When people say leetcode interviews are pointless I might share a link to this post. If that sort of optimization is possible there is a structures and algorithms problem in the background somewhere.

nicoburns 6 hours ago

I find that these kind of optimizations are usually more about technical architecture than leetcode. Last time I got speedups this crazy the biggest win was reducing the number of network/database calls. There were also optimisations around reducing allocations and pulling expensive work out of hot loops. But leetcode interview questions don't tend to cover any of that.

They tend to be about the implementation details of specific algorithms and data structures. Whereas the important skill in most real-world scenarios would be to understand the trade-offs between different algorithms and data structures so that you pick an appropriate off-the-shelf implementation to use.

LollipopYakuza 5 hours ago

tuetuopay 5 hours ago

Well leetcode asks you to implement the data structure, not how and when to use which data structure. I don’t need to know how to implement a bloom filter on a whiteboard off the top of my head to know when to use it.

Twirrim an hour ago

slopinthebag 3 hours ago

Do you think they achieved that performance optimisation with a networked service because they switched from insertion sort to quicksort?

hparadiz 3 hours ago

tzs 11 minutes ago

What's a decent time for this?

I was curious what it would take if I approached it the way I do with most CSV transformation tasks that I'm only intending to do once: use Unix command line tools such as cut, sed, sort, and uniq to do the bulk of the work, and then do something in whatever scripting language seems appropriate to put the final output in whatever format is needed.

The first part, using this command [1], produces output lines that look like this:

  219,/blog/php-81-before-and-after,2021-06-21
and is sorted by URL path and then date.

With 1 million lines that took 9 or 10 seconds (M2 Max Mac Studio). But with 100 million it took 1220 seconds, virtually all of which was sorting.

Turning that into JSON via a shell script [2] was about 15 seconds. (That script is 44% longer than it would have been had JSON allowed a comma after the last element of an array).

So basically 22 minutes. The sorting is the killer with this type of approach, because the input is 7 GB. The output is only 13 MB and the are under 300 pages and the largest page count is under 1000 so building the output up in memory as the unsorted input is scanned and then sorting it would clearly by way way faster.

[1] cut -d / -f 4- | sed -e 's/T..............$//' | sort | uniq -c | sed -e 's/^ *//' -e 's/ /,\//'

[2]

  #!/bin/zsh
  echo "{"
  PAGE=none
  while read LINE; do
      COLS=("${(@s/,/)LINE}")
      COUNT=${COLS[1]}
      URL=${COLS[2]}
      DATE=${COLS[3]}
      if [ $URL != $PAGE ]; then
          if [ $PAGE != "none" ]; then
              echo
              echo "    },"
          fi
          PAGE=$URL
          echo "    \"\\$URL\": {"
          FINISHDATE=no
      else
          if [ $FINISHDATE = "yes" ]; then
              echo ","
          fi
      fi
      echo -n "        \"$DATE\": $COUNT"
      FINISHDATE=yes
  done
  echo
  echo "}"

Twirrim 16 minutes ago

I took a quick look, the dependency on php 8.5 is mildly irritating, even Ubuntu 26.04 isn't lined up to ship with that version, it's on 8.4.11.

You mention in the README that the goal is to run things in a standard environment, but then you're using a near bleeding edge PHP version that people are unlikely to be using?

I thought I'd just quickly spin up a container and take a look out of interest, but now it looks like I'll have to go dig into building my own PHP packages, or compiling my own version from scratch to even begin to look at things?

Xeoncross 7 hours ago

This is why I jumped from PHP to Go, then why I jumped from Go to Rust.

Go is the most battery-included language I've ever used. Instant compile times means I can run tests bound to ctrl/cmd+s every time I save the file. It's more performant (way less memory, similar CPU time) than C# or Java (and certainly all the scripting languages) and contains a massive stdlib for anything you could want to do. It's what scripting languages should have been. Anyone can read it just like Python.

Rust takes the last 20% I couldn't get in a GC language and removes it. Sure, it's syntax doesn't make sense to an outsider and you end up with 3rd party packages for a lot of things, but can't beat it's performance and safety. Removes a whole lot of tests as those situations just aren't possible.

If Rust scares you use Go. If Go scares you use Rust.

tracker1 4 hours ago

Can't speak for go... but for the handful of languages I've thrown at Claude Code, I'd say it's doing the best job with Rust. Maybe the Rust examples in the wild are just better compared to say C#, but I've had a much smoother time of it with Rust than anything else. TS has been decent though.

thinkingtoilet 7 hours ago

It's almost comical how often bring up Rust. "Here's a fun PHP challange!" "Let's talk about Rust..."

hu3 3 hours ago

Yep. It's like a crossfit vegan religion at this point.

You don't even have to ask. They will tell you and usually add nothing to the conversation while doing so.

Quite off-putting.

Xeoncross 7 hours ago

Sorry, but it's honestly just a lot of our journeys. Started on scripting languages like PHP/Ruby/Lua (self-taught) or Java/VB/C#/Python (collage) and then slowly expanded to other languages as we realized we were being held back by our own tools. Each new language/relationship makes you kick yourself for putting up with things so long.

tracker1 4 hours ago

thinkingtoilet 6 hours ago

slopinthebag 3 hours ago

I mean, it's kinda like complaining that people are mentioning excavators on your "how I optimised digging a massive ditch with teaspoons" post.

hu3 an hour ago

codegeek 7 hours ago

I am not that smart to use Rust so take it with a grain of salt. However, its syntax just makes me go crazy. Go/Golang on the other hand is a breath of fresh air. I think unless you really need that additional 20% improvement that Rust provides, Go should be the default for most projects between the 2.

Xeoncross 7 hours ago

I hear you, advanced generics (for complex unions and such) with TypeScript and Rust are honestly unreadable. It's code you spend a day getting right and then no one touches it.

I'm just glad modern languages stopped throwing and catching exceptions at random levels in their call chain. PHP, JavaScript and Java can (not always) have unreadable error handling paths not to mention hardly augmenting the error with any useful information and you're left relying on the stack trace to try to piece together what happened.

pxtail 9 hours ago

Side note - I wasn't aware that there is active collectors scene for Elephpants, awesome!

https://elephpant.me/

t1234s 9 hours ago

Elephpants should be for second and third place. First place should be the double-clawed hammer.

thih9 8 hours ago

Excellent project. My favorites: the joker, php storm, phplashy, Molly.

normie3000 6 hours ago

I love Mollie!

semiquaver 7 hours ago

Are they just confused about what characters require escaping in JSON strings or is PHP weirder than I remember?

    {
        "\/blog\/11-million-rows-in-seconds": {
            "2025-01-24": 1,
            "2026-01-24": 2
        },
        "\/blog\/php-enums": {
            "2024-01-24": 1
        }
    }

idoubtit 5 hours ago

The weirdness is partly in JSON . In the JSON spec, the slash (named "solidus" there) is the only character that can be written plainly or prefixed with a backslash (AKA "reverse solidus").

See page 4, section 9 of the latest ECMA for JSON: https://ecma-international.org/wp-content/uploads/ECMA-404_2...

daviddoran 6 hours ago

PHP has always escaped forward slashes to help prevent malicious JSON from injecting tags into JavaScript I believe. Because it was common for PHP users to json_encode some data and then to write it out into the HTML in a script tag. A malicious actor could include a closing script tag, and then could inject their own HTML tags and scripts etc.

CapitaineToinon 7 hours ago

That's the default output when using json_encode with the JSON_PRETTY_PRINT flag in php.

idoubtit 6 hours ago

> That's the default output when using json_encode with the JSON_PRETTY_PRINT flag in php.

JSON_PRETTY_PRINT is irrelevant. Escaping slashes is the default behavior of json_encode(). To switch it off, use JSON_UNESCAPED_SLASHES.

CapitaineToinon 4 hours ago

poizan42 7 hours ago

> The output should be encoded as a pretty JSON string.

So apparently that is what they consider "pretty JSON". I really don't want to see what they would consider "ugly JSON".

(I think the term they may have been looking for is "pretty-printed JSON" which implies something about the formatting rather than being a completely subjective term)

ourmandave 4 hours ago

Pretty JSON not meaning formatting, but more "That was pretty JSON of you."

chrismarlow9 3 hours ago

I don't have time to put together a submission but I'm willing to bet you can use this:

https://github.com/kjdev/php-ext-jq

And replicate this command:

jq -R ' [inputs | split(",") | {url: .[0], date: .[1] | split("T")[0]}] | group_by(.url) | map({ (.[0].url): ( map(.date) | group_by(.) | map({(.[0]): length}) | add ) }) | add ' < test-data.csv

And it will be faster than anything you can do in native php

Edit: I'm assuming none of the urls have a comma with this but it's more about offloading it through an extension, even if you custom built it

Retr0id 2 hours ago

The rules exclude FFI etc.

tveita 9 hours ago

> Also, the generator will use a seeded randomizer so that, for local development, you work on the same dataset as others

Except that the generator script generates dates relative to time() ?

brentroose 2 hours ago

True, it's a bug that I'm going to fix, but it only impacts local test data sets and not the real benchmark :)

matei88 3 hours ago

It reminds me of a good read about optimizing PHP for 1 billion rows challenge. TLDR; at some point you hit a limit in PHP’s stream layer

https://dev.to/realflowcontrol/processing-one-billion-rows-i...

Retr0id 9 hours ago

How large is a sample 100M row file in bytes? (I tried to run the generator locally but my php is not bleeding-edge enough)

brentroose 9 hours ago

Around 7GB

csjh 6 hours ago

Obligatory DuckDB solution:

> duckdb -s "COPY (SELECT url[20:] as url, date, count(*) as c FROM read_csv('data.csv', columns = { 'url': 'VARCHAR', 'date': 'DATE' }) GROUP BY url, date) TO 'output.json' (ARRAY)"

Takes about 8 seconds on my M1 Macbook. JSON not in the right format, but that wouldn't dominate the execution time.

cess11 4 hours ago

This log in one of the PR:s claims a 5.4s running time on some Mac.

https://github.com/tempestphp/100-million-row-challenge/pull...

poizan42 7 hours ago

> The output should be encoded as a pretty JSON string.

...

> Your parser should store the following output in $outputPath as a JSON file:

    {
        "\/blog\/11-million-rows-in-seconds": {
            "2025-01-24": 1,
            "2026-01-24": 2
        },
        "\/blog\/php-enums": {
            "2024-01-24": 1
        }
    }
They don't define what exactly "pretty" means, but superflous escapes are not very pretty in my opinion.

kijin 7 hours ago

They probably mean "Should look like the output of json_encode($data, JSON_PRETTY_PRINT)". Which most PHP devs would be familiar with.

poizan42 7 hours ago

It sounds plausible, but they really need to spell out exactly what the formatting requirements are, because it can make a huge difference in how efficiently you can write the json out.

maleldil 5 hours ago

spiderfarmer 10 hours ago

Awesome. I’ll be following this. I’ll probably learn a ton.

tomaytotomato 5 hours ago

Tempted to submit a Java app wrapped in PHP exec() :D

brentroose 2 hours ago

The rules state that FFI and the likes isn't allowed because the goal is to do it in PHP :)