iPhone and iPad approved to handle classified NATO information (apple.com)
80 points by throwfaraway4 4 hours ago
WillAdams 4 hours ago
Big change from when Steve Jobs killed the Newton and one unspoken reason was the USMC having just had a _very_ successful trial and being in the process of getting Apple approved as a DOD vendor.... (yes, I'm still salty that the only Apple products I've bought since my MessagePad were OpenStep 4.2, and two iPods for my daughter --- the MacBook I use doesn't count since work bought that --- at least Samsung and Amazon use Wacom EMR in their products, though neither is fully a replacement for my Newton....)
tokyobreakfast 3 hours ago
You're forgetting Casey Fucking Ryback!
Teever 4 hours ago
I've wondered how the world would be different right now if Jobs was still alive.
Asshole as he was, there's no way he would have stood for the kind of shit that is going on in America, and he would have vindictively used all of his resources as the largest shareholder of Disney and CEO of Apple to fight it.
Jobs was obviously not the greatest guy, and harmed a lot of people around him but it's unlikely that he would be seen within a mile of the current President and certainly wouldn't have been photographed in the WH handing him a tacky gold and glass paper weight like Cook.
pokstad 3 hours ago
Jobs was the rare person outspoken with unconventional wisdom. Don’t assume he would agree with your popular opinions.
joe_mamba 3 hours ago
toyg 4 hours ago
Maybe. Or maybe he would have just sent a close associate or relative, like his big friend Ellison does.
gehsty 3 hours ago
He would have understood the potential of LLMs straight away. If he would have delivered a successful product no one knows but 100% would have understood how LLMs could become another interface to computers.
I think his pitch would have been like garage band but for making apps “now anyone can make an app” feels very Jobsian.
awad 2 hours ago
HerbManic 2 hours ago
scottyah an hour ago
runjake 3 hours ago
Three things come to mind, up front:
- Steve Jobs wouldn't have personally donated $1 million to the Trump campaign.
- Steve Jobs probably wouldn't have presented a gold bar to Trump.
- Steve Jobs would have been better at manipulating (reality distortion field) Trump.
peyton 3 hours ago
Tim gave Trump the paper weight.
Steve met once with Obama and complained about the fact Obama did not ask for the meeting personally, that it was too hard to build factories in America, and that teachers unions were kneecapping the American education system.
All signs point to Trump and Jobs becoming thick-as-thieves. Sorry.
macintux 3 hours ago
1986 3 hours ago
joe_mamba 3 hours ago
Teever 3 hours ago
bigyabai 4 hours ago
If we have to rely on the canny benevolence of a random CEO to prevent the world from going to shit, then we truly deserve to live in the shit world. Steve made businesses larger-than-life, and I expect his behavior played no small part in conditioning tech enthusiasts to respond to Trump and Elon's hyperbolic, baseless rhetoric.
Hamuko 4 hours ago
Apple has grown quite dramatically in value since his death. Not sure if he would have the leeway to oppose Trump as an officer of a publicly traded company when he's shown to be quite vindictive against companies he doesn't like.
surgical_fire 2 hours ago
He was a billionaire. It's foolish to believe he was any less of a sociopath than other billionaires.
Most likely he woult thrive as a contemporary oligarch.
astrange 34 minutes ago
GeekyBear an hour ago
The interesting point here is that an off the shelf consumer product has been approved by NATO for any level of classification for the first time, not which level of classification.
> The devices are now officially approved to handle classified NATO information up to the "restricted" level. This is not about specialized, rugged phones built for the military or locked-down, government-only hardware. It applies to regular iPhones and iPads running standard iOS 26 and iPadOS 26. According to Apple, no other consumer devices have this distinction.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-iphone-ipad-nato-classif...
bigfatkitten 3 hours ago
NATO RESTRICTED is not a particularly high classification. Its handling requirements are a very, very small step above unclassified.
What holds Apple back in the classified space is not security shortcomings in the platform per se, but the fact that there’s no way to initialise and manage a fresh iPad without public internet connectivity. That’s an absolute dealbreaker.
wslh 3 hours ago
I understand that this is mainly about the Apple business where having an endorsement/certification is a barrier of entry for others, even if it's artificial.
NoiseBert69 2 hours ago
Restricted?
Even the monthly consumption of toilet paper on a base has this classification.
buildbot 2 hours ago
You could possibly infer an estimate of base staff based on that info; not like a great number, but a number.
dist-epoch 2 hours ago
What actually is military-grade technology:
Both Ukraine and Russia use Discord to stream live drone footage.
Ukraine uses various Android tablets to run it's super-classified Delta battlefield management system.
bigyabai 4 hours ago
"NATO Restricted" is the lowest-tier of NATO classification. It does not require security clearance to access, and mostly exists to prevent the leaking of information.
mark_l_watson 4 hours ago
+1 I came to make the same point. Basically unclassified. Pretty weak press release!
figassis 3 hours ago
So most NATO people will have access to this level, so it's where most devices will be sold.
KK7NIL 3 hours ago
Presumably most NATO personnel will have a significant amount of data at higher restriction levels, arguably making these devices of little use to them. It's a pain using a device that you can load some data, but not other.
runlaszlorun 3 hours ago
This deserves to be the top comment.
irishcoffee 3 hours ago
Commercial products don't generally go from unclass to TS/SCI in one jump. We should anticipate this isn't the end, given how these types of contracts are generally structured.