Entso-E final report on Iberian 2025 blackout (entsoe.eu)

145 points by Rygian 8 hours ago

wedg_ 5 hours ago

I was supposed to fly home from Santiago de Compostella when the blackout happened. Me and my girlfriend had checked out of our hotel and headed to the bus stop to take the bus to the airport. The blackout had already started but we didn't realise (in hindsight, I do remember the pedestrian crossing not working. But I didn't think much of it). Anyways our flight was cancelled and it was clear we needed somewhere to stay the night.

I immediately rebooked the same hotel, but when we got back there the receptionist had left so you had to check in over the phone instead. Except WhatsApp wasn't working. Then mobile data went down. And before long we were walking through the old town going hostel to hostel looking for a place to sleep, as everything got darker and darker (due to the lack of powered street lighting). The old town in almost pitch black was pretty scary!

We ended up breaking back into the hotel, borrowing a bunch of towels from a laundry cart in the hallway and sleeping in this lockable room we found in the basement.

Besides that somewhat stressful part, it was a really strange but fun experience to see the city without power: no traffic lights, darkened shops with lots of phone lights, cafés still operating just with only outdoor seating and limited menus, the occasional loud generator, and most of all the people seemingly having a great time in spite of it.

I would've loved to have stayed out all night exploring the city, but finding somewhere to sleep that night was a bit more pressing!

singhrac 6 hours ago

I think people underestimate how valuable these reports are, so I’m very glad that detailed investigation is done here. Every major grid operator around the world is going to study this and make improvements to make sure this doesn’t happen on their grid.

In a lot of ways it’s like investigations into airplane crashes.

Rygian 4 hours ago

algoth1 6 hours ago

As someone who lived through the blackout it was wild. I felt back into the pre-internet, pre-smartphone era. It was pretty cool actually. The rumor mill spread so fast that Within hours the official word on the street was that we were getting hacked by a foreign military and people were joking that we had nothing of interest to be conquered xD

Oarch an hour ago

It was fun and exciting at first. However when phone batteries started getting low and the streetlights were still off you could see that changing. Candles and the relaxed Spanish attitude to life helped a lot :)

bluebarbet 3 hours ago

Might have been less fun if it had been in the depths of winter. The fact that it was a balmy sunny day in springtime made it a pleasantly novel experience, I agree. Of course, the "sunny day" seems to have been correlated.

unmole 2 hours ago

We're talking about Spain. How bad could a winter really be?

burkaman 2 hours ago

NooneAtAll3 3 hours ago

and then people accuse social media of making people paranoid...

you are able to be paranoid on your own just fine

madaxe_again 6 hours ago

I didn’t even know about it until the next day - totally off grid, and starlink for internet access - and no mobile signal where we live to give it away either.

pfortuny 6 hours ago

The hack thing spread wildly, indeed. Weird experience.

nunobrito 4 hours ago

In Germany a few months prior saw CCC publishing a method for destabilizing energy grids using radio waves a cheap hardware: https://media.ccc.de/v/38c3-blinkencity-radio-controlling-st... and presented an attack vector to which most infrastructure in Europe is exposed.

About 4 hours before the grid collapse on the 28th of April 2025 was recorded the largest purchase of Monero in the past 3 years (to remember: monero is coin of choice for special operations), making it surge +40% in 24 hours. The initial Spanish reports mentioned conflicting power information from dozens of locations at the same time which is consistent with a sequential attack using the blinkencity method so the grid itself is forced to close down.

rob74 4 minutes ago

darkwater 7 hours ago

The fact that there is not a single root cause but several ones makes me instinctively think this is a good report, because it's not what the "bosses" (and even less politicians) like to hear.

red_admiral 5 hours ago

Yes, a lot of modern engineering is good enough that single-cause failures are very rare indeed. That means that failures themselves are rare, but when they do happen, they're most likely to have multiple causes.

How to explain that to non-engineers is another problem.

drob518 6 hours ago

Frequently, when you see these massive failures, the root cause is an alignment of small weaknesses that all come together on a specific day. See, for instance, the space shuttle O-ring incident, Three-Mile Island, Fukushima, etc. These are complex systems with lots of moving parts and lots of (sometimes independent) people managing them. In a sense, the complexity it the common root cause.

linuxguy2 6 hours ago

It's like the Swiss Cheese model where every system has "holes" or vulnerabilities, several layers, and a major incident only occurs when a hole aligns through all the layers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_cheese_model

Ringz 6 hours ago

roenxi 5 hours ago

> See, for instance, the space shuttle O-ring incident

That wasn't really a result of an alignment of small weaknesses though. One of the reasons that whole thing was of particular interest was Feynman's withering appendix to the report where he pointed out that the management team wasn't listening to the engineering assessments of the safety of the venture and were making judgement calls like claiming that a component that had failed in testing was safe.

If a situation is being managed by people who can't assess technical risk, the failures aren't the result of many small weaknesses aligning. It wasn't an alignment of small failures as much as that a component that was well understood to be a likely point of failure had probably failed. Driven by poor management.

> Fukushima

This one too. Wasn't the reactor hit by a wave that was outside design tolerance? My memory was that they were hit by an earthquake that was outside design spec, then a tsunami that was outside design spec. That isn't a number of small weaknesses coming together. If you hit something with forces outside design spec then it might break. Not much of a mystery there. From a similar perspective if you design something for a 1:500 year storm then 1/500th of them might easily fail every year to storms. No small alignment of circumstances needed.

cpgxiii 2 hours ago

amelius 6 hours ago

It usually starts with a broken coffee machine.

wortelefant 2 hours ago

It is very carefully worded, but variable renewables are holding the smoking gun here. This is why spain now requests a better connection to french nuclear now. This reckless overbuild of variable generation is a valuable negative example, wind and solar without adequate hydro or nuclear is dead

TheOtherHobbes an hour ago

It's lack of experience managing variability, not variability itself.

Wind and solar are very far from dead, but they do need some adjustments - as the report makes clear.

ragebol 7 hours ago

Yep, sounds like "This was bound to happen at some point"

cucumber3732842 7 hours ago

Which on some level is exactly "what the bosses and politicians want to hear"

When it's everybody's fault it's nobody's fault.

darkwater 5 hours ago

drob518 6 hours ago

OgsyedIE 6 hours ago

There are ways to aggregate these into a single resilience score for policy makers with only moderate loss of detail but it's unpopular.

toomuchtodo 3 hours ago

They need more battery storage for grid health, both colocated at solar PV generators (to buffer voltage and frequency anomalies) and spread throughout the grid. This replaces inertia and other grid services provided by spinning thermal generators. There was no market mechanism to encourage the deployment of this technology in concert with Spain’s rapid deployment of solar and wind.

z2 3 hours ago

There are non-battery buffers available too--I recently got rooftop residential solar installed, and learned that my area is covered by a grid profile requiring that the solar system stay online through something like 60 +/- 2Hz before shutting down completely, and ramping down production linearly beyond a 1Hz deviation or so. The point is to avoid cascading shutdowns by riding through over/undersupply situations, whereas an older standard for my area would have the all solar systems cut off the moment frequency exceeded 60.5Hz (which would indicate oversupply from power plant generators spinning faster via lower resistance).

In my system's case, switching to this grid profile was just a software toggle.

toomuchtodo 3 hours ago

cyberax 30 minutes ago

One problem that happened here is the _voltage_ spikes as the synchronous generation went away. Voltage _spikes_ on generation going away seem insane, but it's a real phenomenon.

The problem is that the line itself is a giant capacitor. It's charged to the maximum voltage on each cycle. Normally the grid loads immediately pulls that voltage down, and rotating loads are especially useful because they "resist" the rising (or falling) voltage.

So when the rotating loads went away, nothing was preventing the voltage from rising. And it looks like the sections of the grid started working as good old boost converters on a very large scale.

tuetuopay 2 hours ago

In this very specific case, battery storage would not have helped (in fact, it would have worsened the problem). One of the issues in the failure is renewables, but not because of intermittence. It's because of their ~infinite ramp and them being DC.

Anything that's not a spinning slug of steel produces AC through an inverter: electronics that take some DC, pass it through MOSFETs and coils, and spits out a mathematically pure sine wave on the output. They are perfectly controllable, and have no inertia: tell them tout output a set power and they happily will.

However, this has a few specific issues:

- infinite ramps produce sudden influx of energy or sudden drops in energy, which can trigger oscillations and trip safety of other plants

- the sine wave being electronically generated, physics won't help you to keep it in phase with the network, and more crucially, keep it lagging/ahead of the network

The last point is the most important one, and one that is actually discussed in the report. AC works well because physics is on our side, so spinning slugs or steel will self-correct depending on the power requirements of the grid, and this includes their phase compared to the grid. How out-of-phase you are is what's commonly called the power factor. Spinning slugs have a natural power factor, but inverter don't: you can make any power factor you want.

Here in the spanish blackout, there was an excess of reactive power (that is, a phase shift happening). Spinning slugs will fight this shift of phase to realign with the correct phase. An inverter will happily follow the sine wave measured and contribute to the excess of reactive power. The report outlines this: there was no "market incentive" for inverters to actively correct the grid's power factor (trad: there are no fines).

So really, more storage would not have helped. They would have tripped just like the other generators, and being inverter-based, they would have contributed to the issue. Not because "muh renewable" or "muh battery", but because of an inherent characteristic of how they're connected to the grid.

Can this be fixed? Of course. We've had the technology for years for inverters to better mimic spinning slugs of steel. Will it be? Of course. Spain's TSO will make it a requirement to fix this and energy producers will comply.

A few closing notes:

- this is not an anti-renewables writeup, but an explanation of the tech, and the fact that renewables are part of the issue is a coincidence on the underlying technical details

- inverters are not the reason the grid failed. but they're a part of why it had a runaway behavior

- yes, wind also runs on inverters despite being spinning things. with the wind being so variable, it's much more efficient to have all turbines be not synchronized, convert their AC to DC, aggregate the DC, and convert back to AC when injecting into the grid

toomuchtodo 2 hours ago

NooneAtAll3 3 hours ago

If someone wants a "quick and dirty" answers - there's presentation linked https://eepublicdownloads.blob.core.windows.net/public-cdn-c...

page 11 contains "Full root cause tree" - one image with all the high level info

jacquesm 6 hours ago

472 pages. That's going to be a nice bit of reading this weekend. It is very nice to see such a comprehensive report as well as the fact that it was made public immediately.

dvh 37 minutes ago

Maybe practical engineering will make a video about it

wedge01 19 minutes ago

0.63 Hz and 0.2 Hz grid instability. Oh my.

mythern an hour ago

That was quite the interesting read!

AnotherGoodName 4 hours ago

Can’t read all of this since it’s 424 pages but i want to point out that Australia is beating Europe on grid connected storage. Not on a per capita basis. It’s beating all of Europe combined outright https://www.visualcapitalist.com/top-20-countries-by-battery...

We did have many many problems previously. The state of South Australia went out for a couple of weeks at one point in similar cascading failures. This doesn’t happen anymore. In fact the price of electricity is falling and the grid is more stable now https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/mar/19/power...

This price drop is inline with the lowered usage of gas turbine peaker plants (isn’t that helpful right now? No need for blockaded gas for electricity).

A lot of people say it can’t be done. That you can’t have free power during the day (power is free on certain plans during daylight due to solar power inputs dropping wholesale prices to negative) and that you can’t build enough storage (still not there but the dent in gas turbine usage is clear).

It’s one of these cases where you’ve been lied to. Australia elected a government that listened to reports battery+solar is great for grid reliability and nuclear was always going to be more expensive.

postexitus 3 hours ago

You need grid connected storage where you have (unpredictable) renewables. That doesn't negate the benefits of Nuclear baseload power. In an ideal mix, you need both, and also Gas for emergencies. One is not better than the other, they have different roles in a balanced grid.

gpm 39 minutes ago

Nuclear has the same issue as (unpredictable) renewables, it is incapable of cost efficiently following the demand curve. As a result, just like renewables, it requires a form of dispatch-able power to complement it (gas, batteries, etc). Solar and nuclear fill the exact same role in a balanced grid - cheap non-dispatchable power.

Or at least nuclear would if it was cheap, but since its costs haven't fallen the same way that the costs of other energy did... well new nuclear buildout really doesn't have a good role at all right now, it's just throwing away money.

Solar and nuclear complement eachother fine - because their shortfalls (darkness for solar, high demand for nuclear) are mostly uncorrelated... a mix of non-dispatcahble power with uncorrelated shortfalls helps minimize the amount of dispatchable power you need... but batteries have made it cheap enough to transform non-dispatchable power to dispatchable power that nuclears high costs really aren't justifiable.

adrianN an hour ago

Nuclear has a hard time existing in a net with dominant renewables during most of the year. Down-regulating nuclear absolutely kills its profitability. What you want is power plants with low capex that can be profitable with just a few hundred hours at full capacity per year. For example you can burn hydrogen.

drtgh 2 hours ago

Plus, related I think (storage), you do not want to put hydroelectric in water reservoirs targeted to population consumption, as you could find out one summer that the reservoirs are empty, the result of such water being used with the intention of generate electricity, or even used as inertial stabilizer for renewables.

This is the moment were at the news you read "There's a drought because it isn't raining" and similar excuses, when in reality your five years of water's reservoirs become reduced to half -or one third- due they focused the electricity production over the population real water demand.

I mean, hydroelectric needs at least two level’s reservoirs, one to generate electricity (or even exclusive two level's reservoirs with water pumps for this), and the next one, absolutely untouchable by the electric companies, targeted as water storage for the population/agriculture, the classic more than five years reservoir, for real.

preisschild 2 hours ago

> Australia elected a government that listened to reports battery+solar is great for grid reliability and nuclear was always going to be more expensive

The report you mean (csiro) was wildly biased though. They based their nuclear power cost estimate on a nuclear reactor that was never deployed anywhere (Nuscale) instead of "normal" nuclear power plants that have been deployed for decades.

mastax 26 minutes ago

Was the Nuscale cost estimate somehow worse than AP1000 or EPR(2)? That seems very unlikely to me given the history of those programs.