My Astrophotography in the Movie Project Hail Mary (rpastro.square.site)

511 points by wallflower 3 days ago

rpastro 2 hours ago

Hey everyone, I’m the astrophotographer, but I’m not OP. I’m assuming OP picked up my article and posted here and that’s ok! So I quickly created an account here to comment.

Having a quick read through the comments I just want to say thank you for the kind words! Please follow my IG (https://www.instagram.com/deepskyjourney) to see more of my photography, and the reddit article if you want to drop a comment with any questions :)

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProjectHailMary/s/NbRv3sj3fs

Cheers,

Rod Prazeres

glidefarrow 2 minutes ago

I was thrilled to read through to the end of the article and discover a fellow Brisbanite! My friends and I were discussing this movie the other night, they will be stoked to keep an eye out for your images.

pants2 18 minutes ago

Hi Rod, the images you have on your gallery and instagram are stunning but very low-resolution (unless I'm missing something). You mention in the article about preparing IMAX-ready photographs. Is there a way to download those full-res versions of your images?

sp4cec0wb0y 2 hours ago

Did you sell the rights the image exclusively or will you be able to sell those images as prints?

Jazz hands

rpastro an hour ago

They’re non exclusive and you can find them up for sale here: https://rpastro.darkroom.com/collections/as-seen-in-project-...

My website is also www.rpastro.com.au :)

sllabres 35 minutes ago

Congratulations :-)

Very nice shots. It must be a great feeling to see one's own footage in a feature film!

How long do you do astrophotography?

lgl an hour ago

Hey Rod, your last name seems portuguese(?)

Congrats on this, not only you got credits on a feature movie, you got one of the good ones. Cloud 9 for you, enjoy!

rpastro an hour ago

Nice catch. I’m Brazilian but have been living in Australia for over 20 years and thank you!

bravoetch an hour ago

First time in ages I sat through the credits!

fosco 2 hours ago

Can you share what equipment was used to capture those images?

robocat 2 hours ago

rpastro an hour ago

I’ve had multiple setups over the last 2 years, but for the images displayed in the movie there were two main setups: a William Optics RedCat 51 II and an Askar 130PHQ, both paired with a ZWO ASI2600MM Pro camera, typically on a Sky Watcher NEQ6 Pro mount, along with narrowband and RGB filters depending on the target.

readthenotes1 2 hours ago

They are beautiful!

DorkyPup 6 hours ago

This is incredible and wonderful news, huge congratulations! As someone who works at the intersection of design and engineering, the detail about delivering "starless versions" so the credit typography doesn't compete with the bright stars is exactly the kind of invisible technical problem-solving I love reading about on here.

On a personal note, I find it very refreshing to hear that a major studio opted for real captured photography. Love that they specifically wanted the authenticity of real narrowband data and that speaks to the production team's vision. Enjoy the premiere night, feel incredibly proud. I was already planning on watching the movie this weekend (it releases here on the 26th) and now I'm doubly excited because I know this neat little tidbit.

I'm pretty sure this "Dad did something crazy" moment is going to be a core memory for your kids. Congrats!

vintagedave 5 hours ago

I'm curious how the starless versions are created. From the steps at the end, I couldn't see a 'this is how stars are removed' step. Maybe it's part of stacking (but most stars would remain present?) or the calibration process treating stars as noise?

knappe 2 hours ago

Traditionally (pre-ai) you would use another image of the same part of the sky and negate the items that you want to remove from the image

As an example terrestrial telescope mirrors get dusty. You're not going to break down the scope just to clean up the dust as this is a many days operation in most cases. So instead you would take "flats" that were of a pure white background and thus showed the dust in its full, dusty, glory. When you take your actual images, you negate (subtract from the original image) the flat and thus any noise generated by the dust. You can use this same method for removing brighter stars from an image that would otherwise saturate the ccd and wash out the background. Turns out it doesn't work for planes. Ask me how I know!

dotancohen an hour ago

inaros 2 hours ago

>> I'm curious how the starless versions are created.

Its done with using dedicated astrophotography software (StarXTerminator). Example: https://astrobackyard.com/starnet-astrophotography/

So these are more artistic photo works than real science photos...

Rod Prazeres the Astrophotographer, has given this interview where he talks about the process: https://www.astronomy.com/observing/the-astrophotography-of-...

dotancohen an hour ago

teraflop 2 hours ago

roblh 5 hours ago

I feel like the stars are probably pretty easy to mask out since they’re very bright relative to the rest of the image. Once you have the mask, each one is small enough that you could probably fill it with the values from adjacent pixels. Kinda like sensor mapping to hide dead pixels. That’s just a guess though, I’m sure there’s more to it than that.

touisteur 5 hours ago

throw0101d 6 hours ago

Somewhat related, nature photographer/youtuber Danni Connor had her recording of a red squirrel used in the movie Dune (Part 1) for the sound of the desert mouse (muad'dib). Her interviewing with (Oscar-winning) sound designer Mark Mangini on it:

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtfzjehDg74

* transcript: https://otter.ai/u/PA9dbWFA7BgPgLZN9CSo1WFAjXk

* https://www.iflscience.com/wildlife-photographers-viral-squi...

* https://markmangini.com/Mark_Mangini/Blog/Entries/2021/11/7_...

Story of her 'adopting' the squirrels:

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tDlh62AVPo

The name of the squirrel is "Baby Pear"; her viral tweet:

* https://twitter.com/DaniConnorWild/status/127534941750838476...

j_bum 6 hours ago

Incredible work, OP. What a proud feeling you must have. Congrats!!

My wife and I saw the movie this weekend, we thought it was great. I adored the book, yet I recognize a book can’t be perfectly translated to the screen.

I thought the directors did a good enough job at translating the sci-fi into something the masses would enjoy.

Kudos to you

superchink 5 hours ago

Would you recommend reading the book first?

alistairSH 5 hours ago

As a general rule, always read the book first. In this case, that holds true - there was too much in the book to cover completely in the movie. It's a pretty quick read as well - you could probably bang it out in a long afternoon, if you were inclined.

That said, I never read Harry Potter and can't imagine going back and reading it now. So, YMMV.

elictronic 5 hours ago

qingcharles 3 hours ago

TyrunDemeg101 4 hours ago

Both are wonderful. I thought the movie was an excellent adaptation of the book.

But I am glad I read the book first, I got much more out of it - it goes a lot more in depth into the science and engineering challenges that occur throughout. Which I appreciated. I'm not sure I would have read the book in the same way if I had seen the movie first.

RulerOf 2 hours ago

I watched the movie and then read the book.

I tend to prefer movies as a storytelling medium, and enjoyed watching the story unfold that way. I ended up just wanting to know more about things that were implied in the movie but not explained, and the book filled in those gaps well.

So if you want to do both, and want to get something new when you do each, then, having done it that way, I would recommend it.

Edit: reviewing my app history, it took me somewhere between 10-11 hours to read the book, and I do not read fiction especially fast.

j_bum 4 hours ago

That’s a tough one. I’d recommend the book first, but I can see arguments for both orders.

By reading the book first, you’ll have a better background and understanding of the context of the plot, the science, and the overall objectives of the mission. There are also several “twists” in the book that were cut from the movie for runtime.

I enjoyed the movie after reading because I got to see the story “come to life”.

But I could also understand the perspective of enjoying the movie first, and then having the story/world expanded 8x with a 16hr book.

You’d could equate “movie -> book” order to watching the LoTR standard editions first, and then watching the extended editions.

I listened to the audiobook narrated by Ray Porter (on Audible) and would recommend that production if you enjoy audio.

I don’t think you can go wrong either way :)

csours 4 hours ago

I read the book before watching the movie - I'd recommend the opposite.

Watching the movie first will set the stage for a lot of details that work better in a book than a movie.

aczerepinski 5 hours ago

Book is better but they’re both good. I don’t think order matters.

geerlingguy 5 hours ago

dahart 4 hours ago

The book is fantastic, I’d recommend reading it one way or another. ;) Speaking personally, I lose some motivation to read a book after seeing the movie. But book-based movies of course rarely if ever live up to the book. I read first, so I can’t speak to the other way around, but I think I was looking forward to the movie a lot more than I would have if I hadn’t read the book. I also suspect I was more forgiving of the movie than if I’d seen it cold.

zyberzero 5 hours ago

Not the parent, but I've seen the movie and read the book. I think there are a few gaps in the movie that's explained by the book, but there are some artistic freedom as well between the book and the film.

I would recommend reading the book first at least.

throw0101d 4 hours ago

> Would you recommend reading the book first?

I recommended it to a co-worker, who ended up going with the audio book, and found he found it good.

gukov 5 hours ago

The audiobook version is amazing, if that’s your thing.

shubhamjain 6 hours ago

Amazing! Kudos to Hollywood, for going to this length to license the work, credit the author, involve him in the project. To respect realism as a goal for its own, even though "no one will notice" and a similar image might be "just a prompt away." I know how common is the latter these days.

tomasphan 6 hours ago

I doubt that good looking IMAX quality astrophotography is just a prompt away.

tills13 2 hours ago

As more an more companies lazily use AI to achieve the same thing I am doubling down on supporting -- even if I don't really care about the subject -- anything that supports actual, real human art.

post_break 4 hours ago

This reminds me of the photo of the vehicle assembly building featured in Iron Man: https://adactio.com/journal/1530/

0x38B 6 hours ago

Me and my brother just saw the movie tonight and we stayed for the credits. I thought the images were beautiful.

Tommix11 5 hours ago

I loved that they changed the ending. I did not like the ending in the book.

embedding-shape 5 hours ago

About to see the movie in two days, read the book ages ago and remember I wasn't too fond of the book ending either, so now I got a bit more excited :)

Sivart13 an hour ago

minitech 5 hours ago

What changed about the ending?

0xf00ff00f 5 hours ago

Faaak an hour ago

A bit indiscrete, but how much does the licence cost? Is it around hundreds, 1k, 10k?

Levitating an hour ago

This is kind of in line with the story, where amateur astronomers data from around the world is used to test a hypothesis.

I am currently reading the book.

scientism 2 hours ago

That's really great news. For anyone looking for the astrophotography equipment, this is from one of his posts:

Telescope: William Optics UltraCat 76 Mount: Sky-Watcher Wave 150i Camera: ZWO ASI2600MM-Pro

mourner 3 hours ago

Amazing achievement, congratulations! Can't seem to be able to read it though, it greets me with "Sorry, you have been blocked" CloudFlare page — is this a HN overloading the website, or did the host accidentally block IPs from Ukraine perhaps?

mkehrt 4 hours ago

I was wondering what these images were! I wasn't sure if they were real photographs or not. They're great!

inaros 2 hours ago

The stars were stripped out with neural network tools (StarNet++/StarXTerminator) at the studio request so text credits would read cleanly over them. The underlying nebula data is real, but removing every star from the field puts this firmly in the category of art photography, not scientific imaging.

No one has ever or could ever observe a nebula with zero stars in the frame.

hectdev 5 hours ago

As an amateur astrophotographer, I am both so envious and so happy for you. What a wonderful recognition of your talent and dedication to the craft. Kudos!

TyrunDemeg101 4 hours ago

Congrats man! That's an awesome accomplishment!

Amazing movie and the end credit visuals WERE incredible!

Xenoamorphous an hour ago

Astrophagology?

AnDaltan 3 hours ago

Dude, amazing! The images are beautiful and it's 1000 times better when you know they're real and not CGI/AI.

inaros 2 hours ago

HeavenFox 2 hours ago

That is not what starnet does. It just removes the star from the picture you took, nothing else. It also predates generative AI by a few years.

If by "not real", you mean "you removed the stars so it no longer reflect reality!", then real photograph doesn't exist. For example, OP uses narrow-band filters, and it's common to map H-alpha wavelength, which is red, to green in the images. Does that make it unreal?

In the end, astrophotography is more art than science; the goal is more about producing aesthetically-pleasing images than doing photometry. Photographers must take some artistic license.

inaros 2 hours ago

BenjiWiebe 2 hours ago

They're a lot more real than CG/AI. It's very rare and maybe not even possible to have a "true" astrophotography photo. At those light levels, eyes and camera sensors work very differently and even a "plain" astro photo has either been processed a lot, or else doesn't look like what our eyes would see.

inaros 2 hours ago

manyaoman 5 hours ago

Those shots are stunning. Too bad I rarely pay attention to the credits. I always assumed a lot of effort goes into them though, and this post seems to confirm it.

gwbennett 5 hours ago

Great, great work! Congratulations and Bravo Zulu! Looking forward to seeing the movie this weekend.

khazhoux 3 hours ago

Everyone do yourselves a favor and skip all trailers and go see this movie. It was a delight start to finish. I was so glad I knew zero what the story was.

stogot 4 hours ago

This post makes me want to go see the movie now. Is it in imax? I didn’t enjoy the book (Martian was his best) but maybe I will enjoy this

Levitating an hour ago

Why? I am currently reading the book as well, and I even though I am not a scientist I feel like I am finding small technical/scientific mistakes that shouldn't have had to be there.

double07zip 6 hours ago

This is amazing. Your photos are art!

ferreyadinarta 6 hours ago

Wow, congratulations!!

poulpy123 6 hours ago

nice !