Voyager 1 runs on 69 KB of memory and an 8-track tape recorder (techfixated.com)
201 points by speckx 3 hours ago
pkorzeniewski an hour ago
Voyager 1 & 2 is one of my favourite human science achievements, not even so much from technology standpoint, as it's relatively simple compared to what we have now (although that's one of the charms), but just the fact that it's so far away, it still more or less works long after the scheduled mission end time, we can communicate with it and despite all the modern technology progress, it would take decades to catch up. Absolutely amazing and inspiring!
zitterbewegung 29 minutes ago
A large amount of Voyager 1 & 2 's success isn't just technological it is the ability to take advantage of a specific planetary alignment for a gravity assist [1] that can only occur every 175 years [2] .
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_assist [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyager_1#/media/File:Voyager_...
andai 36 minutes ago
>despite all the modern technology progress, it would take decades to catch up.
Could you elaborate on this?
wongarsu 25 minutes ago
Take decades to catch up to the location of either voyager probe. The probes have be traveling for a long time. They have also taken advantage of a rare planetary alignment that allowed them to visit a lot of planets and get gravity assists from them (converting a tiny portion of the planet's angular momentum into orbital speed for the spacecraft)
cedilla 30 minutes ago
Voyager 1 and 2 are 25 and 21 billion kilometres away, respectively.
Even if we built a rocket just designed to get stuff as far away as quickly away as possible, it would take decades to catch up to where they are now.
Narishma 12 minutes ago
gautamcgoel 33 minutes ago
I assume OP means that a probe launched today would take decades to exit the solar system.
trvz 27 minutes ago
They are dangerous and reckless. They were also done in the name of humanity, but without humanity’s consent.
I despise the naive scientists who did them as much as those who brought the damocletian sword of nuclear weapons on us.
fanatic2pope 7 minutes ago
Earth's "radio bubble" is well over 100 light years across now. If there are aliens out there, they are probably already on their way to ask us in person why Ross, the largest Friend, doesn't simply eat the others.
krapp a minute ago
wongarsu 21 minutes ago
I assume you are against them due to the silent forest hypothesis? Better not announce ourselves, because anything out there might not be friendly to us?
whattheheckheck 10 minutes ago
thegrim33 8 minutes ago
I'm firmly against METI, but the Voyagers aren't evenly remotely METI / risky.
srean 21 minutes ago
Elaborate please.
saadn92 3 hours ago
The thruster fix is the part that gets me. They sent a command that would either revive thrusters dead since 2004 or cause a catastrophic explosion, then waited 46 hours for the round trip with zero ability to intervene. That's a production deployment with no rollback, no monitoring dashboard, and a 23-hour latency on your logs. They nailed it.
hnthrowaway0315 2 hours ago
I'd argue that once you have a very well defined requirement doc that mostly kicks humans out of the picture, as well as a patient boss who doesn't want anything ASAP or "Tomorrow morning first thing", engineering is not that hard, and is almost...enjoyment.
KellyCriterion 29 minutes ago
> ASAP or "Tomorrow morning first thing"
like in "fast pacing environments" with "flat hierarchies" and "agile mindset"? :-D
armanj an hour ago
A well defined doc evolves over time. it gets sharper with real-world scenarios, incidents, and experiments. Before Voyager 1, we didn’t have that kind of experience. You can’t predict everything upfront.
> Theory only takes you so far
trgn an hour ago
Would sending voyager have been a real definite deadline?
wongarsu 31 minutes ago
reaperducer an hour ago
y1n0 an hour ago
I’d argue that you must not be working on interesting problems if you think that “engineering is not that hard”
SpaceNoodled an hour ago
bazzert 3 hours ago
There is a terrific documentary, 'Its quieter in the twilight', about the aging and dwindling team that still runs both Voyager missions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6L9Du_IFmI
pan69 an hour ago
> Video unavailable > The uploader has not made this video available in your country
I'd love to watch this but unfortunately. My country being AU.
joshvm 25 minutes ago
https://www.itsquieterfilm.com/trailer is the official site.
UltraMagnus 28 minutes ago
This YouTube video is just a trailer for the documentary, it does look amazing. It looks like the entire documentary is available on some free streaming sites, here's one: https://play.xumo.com/free-movies/it-s-quieter-in-the-twilig...
If that doesn't work, try using a VPN set to the US as country.
chistev 36 minutes ago
Why do some uploaders make it unavailable in certain countries?
spike021 11 minutes ago
pramsey an hour ago
Such a wonderful meditation on career and meaning and fellowship and purpose. I loved it.
manytimesaway 3 hours ago
Very depressing to see this next to the "LinkedIn uses 2.4GB of RAM" post.
divbzero 3 hours ago
Any website that uses more memory than Voyager 1 should be considered bloated.
amiga-workbench 2 hours ago
There's almost certainly less than 69KB of useful human-readable information on any given page.
tombert an hour ago
greenavocado an hour ago
varjag 2 hours ago
Any development team larger than Apollo programming team of 350 is overstaffed.
reaperducer an hour ago
jagged-chisel 3 hours ago
Takes a lot of resources to track your users rather than just cruising through space
kermatt 26 minutes ago
Voyager only needs to track itself. Plus, no ads.
echelon 2 hours ago
It takes a lot to deliver value at velocity with a team of engineers that couldn't give a damn about the product and just want to get a paycheck, move up the ladder, etc.
LinkedIn is not a fun problem.
The UI, the design, the dark patterns - all of it sucks.
It's a job. Nobody particularly wants to be there. There's nothing sacred about the product. Engineers don't worship it.
It isn't a place you'd take a pay cut for the opportunity to work there.
Hence the bloat.
flykespice 2 hours ago
""just""
dn3500 3 hours ago
Here's a photo of the tape recorder:
https://science.nasa.gov/image-detail/voyager-digital-record...
gdubs 14 minutes ago
One of my favorite stories about the Voyager mission was how they wanted to grab photos of the outer planets but the click of the tape drive was enough to ruin the long exposures. I made a YouTube short about it a while back:
kmaitreys 2 hours ago
Reminded me of the anecdote mentioned in the classic "Real Programmer Don't Use Pascal"
> Some of the most awesome Real Programmers of all work at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in California. Many of them know the entire operating system of the Pioneer and Voyager spacecraft by heart. With a combination of large ground-based FORTRAN programs and small spacecraft-based assembly language programs, they are able to do incredible feats of navigation and improvisation -- hitting ten-kilometer wide windows at Saturn after six years in space, repairing or bypassing damaged sensor platforms, radios, and batteries. Allegedly, one Real Programmer managed to tuck a pattern-matching program into a few hundred bytes of unused memory in a Voyager spacecraft that searched for, located, and photographed a new moon of Jupiter.
> The current plan for the Galileo spacecraft is to use a gravity assist trajectory past Mars on the way to Jupiter. This trajectory passes within 80 +/-3 kilometers of the surface of Mars. Nobody is going to trust a PASCAL program (or a PASCAL programmer) for navigation to these tolerances.
The article is satirical so I am not sure how true is this, but over its history, the maintainers of these probes have done truly remarkable stuff like this.
wookmaster 2 hours ago
Duh its space you have to use Turbo pascal
vardump 2 hours ago
Duh, turbo doesn't work in space. Surely you meant High Speed Pascal!
bikamonki an hour ago
Wow! Reading this after watching PHM I almost cried...again.
Now, this is what impressed me the most: ""... and wrote software flexible enough to be updated from Earth decades after launch.."
OTA patches where invented in the 70's :)
Quitschquat an hour ago
What's PHM
ethmarks an hour ago
Project Hail Mary. It's a sci-fi novel by Andy Weir (author of The Martian) that was adapted into a movie that released in theaters a couple weeks ago. It's fantastic and you should totally read/watch it.
stared 3 hours ago
Good they launched Voyager 1 before invention of Docker, Electron and NPM projects with thousands of padLefts.
thomasgeelens 17 minutes ago
I know it makes no sense about what I'm going to say but: whenever I lose a 'simple 5G phone call' connection I remind myself that the Voyager 1 runs on 69kb of memory and there's a robot on Mars.
Waterluvian 2 hours ago
Nice. I’ve done some of my best learning by trying to do things with very artificially low resource constraints. The struggle I have at times is to properly calibrate my brain to the right resource scope. Ie. “No, stop optimizing these enums as integers instead of strings… this isn’t the game boy emulator this is a web browser. It’s fine.”
LeoPanthera 3 hours ago
There’s a lot of LLM text in that article. It’s very offputting.
djb-at-durable 34 minutes ago
I feel like that's also what's running the backend of Spirit Airlines, but somehow it feels more impressive in the context of Voyager 1.
phreeza an hour ago
What really gets me is that the time between windows 95 and now is more than between voyager launching and Windows 95. Same for the moon landings for that matter.
tkocmathla 3 hours ago
It's very distracting to have every sentence in this article be its own paragraph.
branon an hour ago
It's LLM slop unfortunately, bears the hallmarks at least :(
dirkt 2 hours ago
hakunin 2 hours ago
I’ve been looking at emulation for the first time in a long time, and it also blows my mind that entire big detailed games that we played for many hours take 100-400kb total (NES) or 2-4mb (Genesis).
masfuerte 2 hours ago
My first computer had 32KB. Reading the headline there's still a part of my brain that went "69KB? Luxury!".
zimpenfish an hour ago
> My first computer had 32KB.
1KB for me[0]. Then another 1KB[1] expanded to 16KB via my father's electronic wizardry. Then an official 16KB[2] and ever upwards from there.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZX80
hybrid_study 2 hours ago
Still amazed how much fun it is to play a 36KB Stargate Defender!
lnsru 2 hours ago
Welcome to the world of embedded systems. They often do not have more resources that that. Even as completely new development (of pool control system or electricity meter).
PearlRiver 11 minutes ago
I watched a documentary about Voyager once. It was fascinating seeing all these men and women huddled around a tiny little screen and a telex printer to see all their theories about Saturn become real.
It was the Neil Armstrong moment for astronomy.
wek 32 minutes ago
Amaze. Amaze. Thank you for sharing.
trgn an hour ago
Wish javascript devs would read this. If the web is slow, its because of them
tom-blk 2 hours ago
Very cool, first time reading about the specifics of voyager 1, this is super impressive!
elvis70 an hour ago
> For the first time in the history of the universe, as far as we know, an object built by a living species had left the protective bubble of its home star system...
Seriously?
wongarsu 13 minutes ago
An easy claim to make if you only check with species from one star system
krapp 10 minutes ago
Which other species in what other star systems do you suggest we check with?
jmclnx 3 hours ago
I knew about the memory, but an 8-track tape ? That is a surprise. But when you think of it, what else could you use for this in 1977.
What amazes me is the tape lasted almost 30 years. I knew tapes back then could last a while, 30 years being bombarded with cosmic rays ? inconceivable :)
duskwuff 28 minutes ago
A tape with eight tracks, yes. But not the audio cartridge format commonly known as "8-track"; that wouldn't have been suitable to the task. Here's a photo:
https://science.nasa.gov/image-detail/voyager-digital-record...
RiverCrochet an hour ago
An old 1970's arcade game, Quiz Show, used an 8-track tape to store the questions and answers. There's a YouTube video about it, and audio dumps of the 8-track on archive.org I think.
reaperducer an hour ago
What amazes me is the tape lasted almost 30 years
Yesterday I loaded a program on tape bought at Radio Shack in 1985 into my TRS-80.
That's 41 years ago.
I suspect the key is using commercial-grade recorders and thick tape.
PepperdineG 3 minutes ago
I suspect the key was you used Dr Emmett Brown to tune up the equipment then plugged your electric guitar into his amplifier.
FpUser an hour ago
This is one mighty tape recorder, hats off:
https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/2053/how-was-magne...
chistev 2 hours ago
I'm just going to repost stuff from my blog about the Voyager space probes. I've posted this here before -
The two Voyager spacecraft are the greatest love letters humanity has ever sent into the void.
Voyager 2 actually launched first, on August 20, 1977, followed by Voyager 1 on September 5, 1977. Because Voyager 1 was on a faster, shorter trajectory (it used a rare alignment to slingshot past both Jupiter and Saturn quicker), it overtook its twin and became the farther, faster probe. As of 2025, Voyager 1 is the most distant human-made object ever, more than 24 billion kilometers away, still whispering data home at 160 bits per second.
Each spacecraft carries an identical 12-inch gold-plated copper phonograph record.
The contents:
- Greetings in 55 human languages.
- A message from UN Secretary-General at the time and one from U.S. President Jimmy Carter.
- 115 analog images encoded in the record’s grooves: how to build the stylus and play the record, the solar system’s location using 14 pulsars as galactic GPS, diagrams of human DNA, photos of a supermarket, a sunset, a fetus, people eating, licking ice cream, and dancing
The record is encased in an aluminum jacket with instructions etched on the cover: a map of the pulsars, the hydrogen atom diagram so aliens can decode the time units, and a tiny sample of uranium-238 so they can carbon-date how old the record is when they find it.
Sagan wanted the record to be a message in a bottle for a billion years. The spacecraft themselves are expected to outlive Earth. In a billion years, when the Sun swells into a red giant and maybe swallows Earth, the Voyagers will still be cruising the Milky Way, silent gold disks carrying blind, naked humans waving hello to a universe that may never wave back.
And it was Sagan who, in 1989, when Voyager 1 was already beyond Neptune and its cameras were scheduled to be turned off forever to save power, begged NASA for one last maneuver. On Valentine’s Day 1990, the spacecraft turned around, took 60 final images, and captured Earth as a single pale blue pixel floating in a scattered beam of sunlight — the photograph that gives the book its name and its soul.
It was the photograph that inspired this famous quote -
"Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there-on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot.
Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.
The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Earth is where we make our stand.
It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known. "
That picture almost didn’t happen. NASA said it was pointless, the cameras were old, the images would be useless. Sagan argued it would be the first time any human ever saw our world from outside the solar system. He won. The cameras were powered up one last time, the portrait was taken, and then they were shut down forever.
Full piece - https://www.rxjourney.net/30-things-i-know
robthebrew 3 hours ago
but can it play Doom?
palmotea 3 hours ago
Decommission. It's not AI ready.
hedgehog 3 hours ago
If we wait long enough someone out there will upgrade it and send it back to us.
bravoetch 3 hours ago
For those unaware (spoiler follows) this is the reveal in the plot of 'Star Trek - The Motion Picture'.
temp0826 3 hours ago
I implore you to read 17776
uwagar 3 hours ago
so unbelievable that makes you wonder if its all fake.
hybrid_study 2 hours ago
Oh c’mon! Do you really believe we actually sent space probes ~15.0 billion miles from earth?
Next you’ll tell me that the message from humanity was read by someone later linked to Nazi-era activities (though not a confirmed war criminal in the legal sense).
amelius 2 hours ago
And what did we get from this space innovation?
Not the cheap prosumer high density backup tape drives that we should be able to buy in the stores now.