Neovim 0.12.0 (github.com)
118 points by pawelgrzybek 2 hours ago
nickandbro 4 minutes ago
If anybody wants to checkout my site to learn the basics of vim. Here it is:
I proxy to neovim instances for each level. Still working out some kinks but soon to complete it
helterskelter an hour ago
Up next for 0.13: multiple cursors! I have no idea what I'd do with this feature but it sounds intriguing.
w4rh4wk5 16 minutes ago
Multi cursor support in VSCode replaced 98% of my need for macros. Yes, macros are more powerful, but they are pretty easy to get wrong. With multiple cursors, it's far easier to spot where your inputs don't work out and adjust accordingly.
Multi cursor is the feature that increased my productivity the most across the board.
eviks 9 minutes ago
You'd do text editing with it with the coolest feedback loop - immediately seeing the changes and what those changes apply to beforehand, that's different from having to repeat some macro multiple times
Iridescent_ 33 minutes ago
Kakoune has replaced many features with multicursor, including the sed-like commands (where you just select an area, search for patterns inside it to create the multiple cursors, then perform regular edits (which also means you can perform much more complex than simple replaces). It is really useful for refactors, e.g. even if you don't have any LSP (e.g. for plain text) you can easily rename symbols, reorder/select in log files, etc
steve_adams_86 41 minutes ago
I'm not sure how people typically use neovim, but in Zed I find multiple cursors (especially combined with multiple file buffers) extremely ergonomic for refactoring quickly and easily where tools like find and replace or simple renaming doesn't suffice. It lets you scan through and add cursors where you need them, then perform your edits across locations and even files all at once. It's so nice that it played a significant role in me keeping Zed early on despite it missing a lot of extensions I used in VS Code.
gesis 36 minutes ago
I am so used to sed-style, regex powered find/replace, that this use admittedly never occured to me. As a result, multi-cursor seemed mostly useless outside of pair programming that I never do.
I will have to try it out once it lands in neovim just to see if I can wrap my muscle memory around it.
steve_adams_86 12 minutes ago
runevault 27 minutes ago
bluecalm 26 minutes ago
You have very convenient macros. If there is something you want to do in places you are going to mark first then you can just execute it right there instead. If it's just one edit you just do it right there without macro and use the dot to repeat it in more places.
If those places can be created automatically then again it's just a macro you execute over many lines.
themadsens 13 minutes ago
Whats with all the fuss over multicursor. How is this different from just using '.'
wilkystyle 6 minutes ago
dot repeat is the wrong comparison. A closer one would be macros, but even then a good multiple cursors implementation is often faster, more intuitive, and requires less cognitive overhead. One of the better examples of the usefulness of multiple cursors is from Emacs Rocks (link goes to 0:23):
meekins 39 minutes ago
Really excited about this! At least in Sublime Text I've found multiple cursors a really powerful tool for ad-hoc transformations on snippets of semi-structured text or instantly and visually applying the same edit on multiple similar lines.
tekawade 37 minutes ago
Lookup helix tutorial. It’s pretty useful.
scuff3d 40 minutes ago
It's funny because I miss this one all the time. I got use it in Sublime and VScode before making the jump to Neovim. I know you can get similar functionality from macros and what not, but it's just not the same.
toisanji 38 minutes ago
Is anyone using them vim with Claude or any of these coding tools? I want to, but I haven’t found a good workflow.
mi_lk an hour ago
> - d21b8c949ad7 pack: add built-in plugin manager `vim.pack
Can someone try to sell me this over lazy.nvim? I asked Claude to convert lazy config to pack and I was not happy with it because how verbose it turned out
pawelgrzybek an hour ago
Have a look here. This is incredible guide to the `vim.pack`.
https://echasnovski.com/blog/2026-03-13-a-guide-to-vim-pack....
flexagoon 28 minutes ago
> how verbose it turned out
Verbose? The new plugin manager's interface is literature just vim.pack.add({url}), not sure what is verbose about that
lawn 18 minutes ago
If you want to replicate the lazy features then it will get verbose. Even using a dedicated plugin for lazy loading it's not as tight as lazy.nvim.
You may argue that you don't need lazy loading, which is fine, but they're not 1-to-1 compatible.
PhilipRoman 26 minutes ago
I always thought Vim/Nvim already had a built-in package manager, git clone inside ~/.vim/pack/*/start, am I missing anything by not using a "real" package manager?
c-hendricks an hour ago
I'm assuming there will be something like lazy.nvim built on top of vim.pack. Some of the conventions might go away (ie constantly calling `.setup`).
NegativeLatency 39 minutes ago
It being built in sounds nice, although I have some lines in my config that automatically install lazy if it’s missing.
tekawade 38 minutes ago
Tried to switch but found lazy.nvim better
shmerl 9 minutes ago
Congrats on diff mode improvements. Hopefully forge style highlighting mode for two way diffs will be available next.
benrutter an hour ago
Always interesting when a project stays 0 ver for so long- anyone close to the project know what would be considered significant enough for a "v1" release?
suby an hour ago
There is a roadmap and github issue tracking what is needed for 1.0.
saint_yossarian 8 minutes ago
AFAIK it's mostly about stabilizing the RPC API and Lua stdlib:
nicebill8 an hour ago
Possibly never: https://0ver.org/
kps an hour ago
Maybe when `:!` works the way vi does and POSIX says it must.
Just kidding, that will never happen.
markrian an hour ago
What are referring to, out of interest? Does this apply just to nvim, or vim as well?
djb-at-durable 28 minutes ago
PhilipRoman 30 minutes ago
flexagoon 26 minutes ago
vi compatibility is explicitly a non-goal for neovim
c-hendricks an hour ago
I unintentionally ran the main branch when testing some changes and a lot of my config broke (mostly around LSPs, CodeCompanion was much slower streaming its responses) so might wait a bit before upgrading.
semiinfinitely an hour ago
the zig build system is the only thing that actually matters in these notes. nobody maintains a parallel build system for fun—it's a clear signal they're finally pathfinding a way to migrate the core away from legacy c. zig's native interop is basically the only way to do this incrementally without the massive friction of a full rust rewrite. definitely makes nvim feel like a much more serious environment for systems-level performance work.
mihaelm 30 minutes ago
It doesn't necessarily mean they're going to migrate from C, building a C project is just so much nicer with Zig than fiddling around with CMake. You got people using it as a build system even for Go projects, especially if they're relying on CGo.
However, if you were entertaining the idea of slowly switching to Zig, the build system would be the place to start. Moving away from CMake is worth it even if you don't push it further.
But yeah, the C-Zig interop story is so good it's a no brainer if you want to "modernize" your C codebase, and you can do so incrementally instead of stopping the world for a rewrite.
metaltyphoon 11 minutes ago
> the only way to do this incrementally without the massive friction of a full rust rewrite
Any rewrite is massive friction, I’m sure probably meant port? The only annoyance with Rust ports is if you have to support varargs. Hopefully that will come to an end soon.
tovej 13 minutes ago
Couldn't disagree more. Why move away from solid, mature build systems to something relatively fringe like zig.
Sadly, this is the general trend with neovim in general: less focus on stability, more and more focus on shiny new things. If I didn't have an nvim config that I'm used to I would have switched to plain vim ages ago.
jauntywundrkind 27 minutes ago
I've been loving NeoVim with AstroNvim so much. I'd done some editor configuration and it felt daunting and mostly just... didn't. And I was not good about using the leader key, because of tmux to zellij problems, that nothing was discoverable (zellij adds visual overlays to guide you through usage, unlike tmux's memorize everything approach). AstroNvim has changed both of these so much for me: there's excellent community packs (https://github.com/AstroNvim/astrocommunity) that are easy to drop in that have good configuration out of the box for everything you could want to do, and the leader key has a wonderful little bottom-of-screen UI for itself that helps you discover what's available (that astronvim plugins naturally grow/augment).
On Neovim, very exciting and interesting to see 0.12.0. It'll be interesting to see if folks really do migrating and at what speed to the new built-in plugin system. There's still dozens of other still used plugin systems, but LazyVim seems to have really cemented itself as the lead (and is used in AstroNvim). It feels like vim-pack is trying to be lighter still. Will it work? Will it get adopted? Will be neat to see. PR for vim-pack: https://github.com/neovim/neovim/pull/34009
Last, I still dream of a day where neovim headless is capable of running multiple different clients at once. The rpc architecture is so powerful and so amazing. But we're still (afaik) anchored to having once canonical screen, where-as I want to be able to have multiple editors, looking at different views of the workspace, with different layouts, and specialty windows like IDE debuggers in their own layouts. It's hard to dream of neovim disaggregating itself, blowing up the screen.c, but maybe maybe maybe maybe some decade, possibly, I hope.
brcmthrowaway an hour ago
I'm using VIM - Vi IMproved 9.1. What am I missing?
I'm kind of desperate to switch. Getting massive FOMO from colleagues using VS Code. But I really like using the keyboard to navigate. What should I do?
Does NeoVim support Claude Code?
johnsonjo an hour ago
I've been using VIM/NVIM on and off for a while and the one thing that made it stick for me over VSCode was LazyVim [1]. If you're missing out on something IDE like VSCode, but you love vim it's a great way to go (it can take some getting used to so hang in there). EDIT LazyVim is based off nvim by the way. If your more into videos to learn about something this is a good intro to it from Elijah Manor [2]. I have my dotfiles stored on github that I use on my different machines, and use gnu `stow` and `make` to build them and that gives me my specific lazyvim setup free and quickly after just downloading a few dependencies.
[1]: https://www.lazyvim.org/ [2]: https://youtu.be/N93cTbtLCIM
robrain 15 minutes ago
To pile on to the LazyVim love, I recommend this site: https://lazyvim-ambitious-devs.phillips.codes/
Course and book (free html, available pdf and dead tree). Covers everything I've needed concisely.
sequin 34 minutes ago
Resist hypes and just use whatever you feel like. Torvalds uses a 40 year old EMACS implementation and that seems to be working for him.
aldanor 28 minutes ago
Most of the active development in the ecosystem is done for neovim these days. If you're using barebones vim then yea you probably won't see much difference, otherwise you have no choice
wasabi991011 an hour ago
If it's just using the keyboard that's holding you back from VSCode, you'll be pleased to know it has plenty of its own shortcuts, as well as a "VIM navigation" mode you can turn on.
brcmthrowaway an hour ago
What do you use?
NegativeLatency 43 minutes ago
Used neovim and neovide for the last week (also had FOMO) and while they’re good (no major gripes) I ended up going back to macvim.
Are there specific features you’re missing from vscode?
pl-94 an hour ago
I motivated my Cursor-colleagues to switch to tmux+nvim -- they don't use it all the time, but they enjoy the vibe. Claude is running on some tmux pans. Much nicer than VSCode!
normie3000 an hour ago
What's the FOMO caused by? Asking as a vim user starting to get FOMOOFOMO.
tekawade 34 minutes ago
You can use vim key binding in vs code.
scuff3d 33 minutes ago
Use the Neovim extension for VScode. It requires you to have Neovim installed, but it works way better then the Vim extension since it passes commands to neovim instead of using emulation.
lawn an hour ago
What are you getting FOMO over? Been using Neovim since it forked from Vim and I'm very happy with it.
Lua has been a big boon to advanced configuration and the plugin ecosystem and Neovim supports everything I'd want and more. LSP and treesitter for instance are still better handled by Neovim.
If you dislike Lua (I'm not a fan) I recommend Fennel, but either way it's much better than Vimscript.
As for Claude there are at least two Neovim plugins for it. I use one of them and it works well but I can't remember which.
semiinfinitely an hour ago
why put a built-in plugin manager. and if so why make it pack not lazy
TymekDev 20 minutes ago
> The folke/lazy.nvim is the most used plugin manager at the time of this writing. And rightly so: it is very capable with lots of features. Ironically, this itself makes it not very suitable to be a part of Neovim as most of the features come with significant code and maintenance complexity. Plus the whole idea of treating lazy loading as the main goal of a plugin manager does not sit well with Neovim core team.
https://echasnovski.com/blog/2026-03-13-a-guide-to-vim-pack....
shmerl 7 minutes ago
I'd stick to lazy.nvim for now. Lazy loading is really neat and lazy.nvim's ability to specify plugin dependencies isn't something vim.pack has either.
I'd guess if you don't care about lazy loading and OK with just loading everything all the time - vim.pack is great to have.