Make Tmux Pretty and Usable (2024) (hamvocke.com)

220 points by speckx 5 hours ago

ndr 4 hours ago

I gave up on it once I discovered https://zellij.dev/

Just even for how tab and panes are setup, and how it's good for scrolling and text selection with your mouse for copy pasting.

ghshephard 39 minutes ago

The only (deal breaker for me ) weakness of zellij - doesn't support copy/paste from the keyboard (from the screen/scrollback) and doesn't support multiple copy/paste buffers.

I do that roughly every 60-90 seconds with tmux - so, until the zellij developers relent (they suggest the "proper way" of copy paste is to pipe the data into a text editor and use that - but has the downside of not supporting system copy-paste buffers.)

snapplebobapple an hour ago

I did the same, however, I recently switched back because zellij has just gotten too annoyingly bloated. I ended up on tmuxp to build my tmux session and autossh to keep me connected to my various ssh sessions and am much happier.

fullstop 2 hours ago

I have a few embedded devices where flash space is limited. tmux is so much smaller than zellij, and it's not even close.

Zellij is close to 50 megabytes, but tmux and all dependent libraries (minus libc, it's always there) is about 2 megabytes.

hesdeadjim 4 hours ago

100%. Tmux didn’t click for me but Zellij did within 5 minutes. Lifelong Vim user so it felt a lot more familiar.

ori_b an hour ago

Once I discovered window managers and graphics, I stopped using half-baked features to emulate them in the terminal.

I use tmux to reattach to programs after the network connection dies, and not really anything else. I would welcome a version of it that stripped out everything but that, and just replayed the last few pages of scrollback on reattach.

setopt an hour ago

> I would welcome a version of it that stripped out everything but that, and just replayed the last few pages of scrollback on reattach.

Like `dtach`?

ori_b 39 minutes ago

senderista 2 hours ago

I have been using zmx for the last 2 weeks. It's still a bit buggy (screen repainting) but quite pleasant to use with ghostty.

https://github.com/neurosnap/zmx

dns_snek 4 hours ago

Cool, I'm one of the lucky ten thousand today. Thanks.

soraki_soladead 4 hours ago

Context: https://xkcd.com/1053/

Then, if you're like me and read this years ago, play around with the Light Mode dropdown which was new to me. :)

grgergo 2 hours ago

kator an hour ago

I tried tmux so many times, could not commit the sequences to memory, but then zellij was just out of the gate, easy to "discover," and then I started writing plugins (rust wasm), and I even submitted a PR which got accepted to support background colors in panes/tabs.

I am a monthly donor, I think it has the right balance of community plus the lead dev has a vision, opinionated but open to inputs, and focused.

llagerlof 4 hours ago

I used tmux for a few years, until one day I discovered Zellij. With its significantly better UI and overall user experience, I was instantly convinced.

nDRDY 4 hours ago

This comment would be a lot more convincing if it weren't in response to one expressing the same sentiment :-)

azthecx 4 hours ago

fernandotakai 3 hours ago

i tried both and i honestly... i didn't see anything different.

i want tmux for three things:

1. easy splits

2. easy scrollback

3. being able to restart a session if my terminal dies

given all that, tmux works exactly as expected.

what are all these "significantly better ui and overall ux"?

Groxx 2 hours ago

dummydummy1234 4 hours ago

Can you use zellij over ssh on a remote server?

TheTaytay 4 hours ago

snthpy 2 hours ago

This sentiment seems to be shared widely. Is there a good conversion guide for tmux users?

I tried zellij a couple of years ago when it first got popular and it didn't click for me.

ndr an hour ago

https://zellij.dev/screencasts/

has some starting links, if screencasts do it for you

For me the only glitch was some key binding collision with ghostty/aerospace but it works perfectly out of the box on alacritty for me

baby 2 hours ago

Tried it when it came out on mac and it was super glitchy so I gave up. Also usally tmux is useful when I ssh

KetoManx64 4 hours ago

Same here. I bounced off it a few times because KDE konsole already had built in tab/pane support but once I picked up neovim the key chords for triggering actions just made so much sense compared to the static key binds of Console that I just started using Zellij for tabs and panes within Console.

christiansafka 3 hours ago

If anyone is looking for a slightly higher level management of persistent sessions, we just launched https://haventerminal.com for Mac

garymiklos 3 hours ago

I prefer smux.dev

imankulov 4 hours ago

I left tmux for zellij after several unsuccessful attempts to get Shift+Enter working.

Was quite impressed initially and invested weeks in building new muscle memory, but somehow Zellij crashed with panic more than once, leaving all my processes orphaned. Decided to go back to tmux, and found a simple fix for my Shift+Enter issue.

In case anyone is looking for it, the fix is "bind-key -T root S-Enter send-keys C-j" borrowed from https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/6072.

verall 3 hours ago

> In case anyone is looking for it, the fix is "bind-key -T root S-Enter send-keys C-j"

I was looking, thank you!

strogonoff 4 hours ago

Is it possible for a multiplexer process to die, but in such a bad way that its child processes continue to run?

I’ve been relying on the fact that in the worst-case scenario (if a pane hangs and tmux session becomes unresponsive) I can just kill tmux server and not have to hunt down and kill dozens of individual processes afterwards.

tolciho 3 hours ago

A `kill -9` will cause many a process to die and give no chance to cleanup any child processes. Some percentage of users continue to use `kill -9` by default, which may result in a mess of a process tree. Otherwise if the crash is bad enough that cleanup code cannot run (maybe it's being run on OpenBSD and an incompetent programmer didn't check the return value of a malloc and for some reason the kernel now nukes the process) then there may be orphan children. There may also be sporadic failures to cleanup if the crash, maybe, causes the whole process to exit before the cleanup code in some other thread can run. System load average may also influence how things maybe go sideways.

a_t48 3 hours ago

strogonoff 3 hours ago

patabyte 2 hours ago

Interesting, for me `shift+enter` hasnt worked, but `option+enter` does give me new lines in Claude Code's promptbox inside tmux on MacOS.

lmao_ball 2 hours ago

Interesting. I’ve just been using ‘\ + enter’

ErroneousBosh an hour ago

What does shift-enter do for you?

skydhash 19 minutes ago

Maybe some keybind in a software. Another mentions Claude code, so it may be used to enter new line where enter is bound to send the prompt.

Terminal programs don’t see key events. It’s all text. I just checked st (suckless) code and the RETURN key will send “\r” aka carriage return. Control+j is “\n” or line feed.

johnfn 3 hours ago

Guys, did you know about tmux control mode? It tells the host terminal to treat tmux tabs as actual tabs in the terminal. That means that things like scrollback, tab navigation, copy paste, keyboard shortcuts, etc are all handled natively, and you can visually see all your tmux tabs! It doesn't have great support across all terminals, but it does work great in iTerm 2.

Try `tmux -CC` in iTerm.

For a tmux novice like me, this was a total game changer :)

kelsey98765431 3 hours ago

this is the only reason i use a mac and in a decade no open source linux terminal has ever implemented this to my knowledge

hnlmorg 2 hours ago

I have in https://github.com/lmorg/ttyphoon

I actually don’t like control mode much though. It’s a terrible protocol. Absolutely abysmal design which leads to a plethora of edge case bugs.

At some point I’ll replace tmux control mode entirely but for the moment it solves the immediate problem.

mwpmaybe 3 hours ago

Holy carp.

sva_ 2 hours ago

For me, this is missing

    bind-key -n M-n new-window
    bind-key -n M-1 select-window -t :1
    bind-key -n M-2 select-window -t :2
    bind-key -n M-3 select-window -t :3
    bind-key -n M-4 select-window -t :4
    bind-key -n M-5 select-window -t :5
    bind-key -n M-6 select-window -t :6
    bind-key -n M-7 select-window -t :7
    bind-key -n M-8 select-window -t :8
    bind-key -n M-9 select-window -t :9
To switch around quick. So on my system I've got Super-{1-9} for workspaces, Alt-{1-9} for tmux panes.

Also if you want a vi-like copy mode (where you can select and copy stuff) that opens using Alt-/:

    bind-key -n M-/ copy-mode
    set -g status-keys vi
    set-window-option -g mode-keys vi

    # v to trigger selection
    bind-key -T copy-mode-vi v send-keys -X begin-selection
    
    # wl-copy if you use wayland
    # mouse selection in copy mode to copy
    bind-key -T copy-mode-vi MouseDragEnd1Pane send -X copy-pipe-and-cancel "wl-copy"
    # y to copy
    bind-key -T copy-mode-vi y send-keys -X copy-pipe-and-cancel "wl-copy"
And btw, Ctrl-Shift-v to paste system clipboard

You can also put the config into ~/.config/tmux/tmux.conf

edit: And if you want a powerline-style design:

    set -g pane-border-style "fg=colour252"
    set -g pane-active-border-style "fg=colour25"
    set -g status-style "bg=default,fg=default"
    set -g status-left "#[fg=colour231,bg=colour25,bold] #S #[fg=colour25,bg=default,nobold]"
    set -g status-right "#[fg=colour67,bg=default]#[fg=colour231,bg=colour67] %Y-%m-%d  %H:%M #[fg=colour25,bg=colour67]#[fg=colour231,bg=colour25,bold] #h "
    setw -g window-status-format "#[fg=colour243,bg=default] #I  #W "
    setw -g window-status-current-format "#[fg=colour28,bg=default,reverse]#[fg=colour231,bg=colour28,bold,noreverse] #I  #W #[fg=colour28,bg=default,noreverse]"
Requires powerline-fonts

mmh0000 an hour ago

I love tmux! It's perfectly usable! You only need a 400-line custom-built configuration file[1]!

[1] https://doc.xn0.org/.tmux.conf

Disclaimer: I am being silly but serious. tmux is absolutely not user-friendly out of the box. It is, however, extremely nice after an absurd amount of tweaking, which is either an endorsement or a damning, depending on your perspective.

skydhash 12 minutes ago

Mine is only a few lines copied from jcs’s one.

https://github.com/jcs/dotfiles/blob/master/.tmux.conf

I’ve only reverted the prefix binding back.

alecsm 4 hours ago

I had my tmux customized to the point I forgot how to use it on a clean install which is a problem when I'm sshing into a server.

I wish it had better defaults but now I run it as is. After a while you get used to it. The only thing I always have to change is the mouse scroll and my brain cannot retain the exact command.

dpflan 4 hours ago

Do you have a "dot files" repo? It would contain things like this, config files for tmux, zsh, <other tools>, etc.

esseph 4 hours ago

That may work for a server or two but doesn't really pan out for fleet management.

lanstin 2 hours ago

throwa356262 3 hours ago

Is it not just easier to accept the default config?

carodgers 2 hours ago

I've hit this problem multiple times. The approach which finally eased this pain point for me was to take care to not overwrite any tmux defaults with my config, and only add non-conflicting configs (new shortcuts, styling changes, etc.) That way, if I need to use tmux on a new or unfamiliar machine, the core functionality is still present, and I just miss the candy that comes with customization.

For example, leave the existing prefix binding (ctrl-b), but also add something nicer for day-to-day use (ctrl-space or similar).

znpy 3 hours ago

> I had my tmux customized to the point I forgot how to use it on a clean install which is a problem when I'm sshing into a server.

I had the same issue with gnu emacs… but at some point i lost my very custom configuration when the disk broke… i resorted to use a mostly-vanilla emacs :)

NobleLie 2 hours ago

"Claude, scp my tmux config over to that box"

alt219 4 hours ago

Why not just `scp ~/.tmux.conf remotehost:`?

al_borland 4 hours ago

I can't speak for the parent, but I rarely login to the same remote server twice and don't want to need to set things up and clean them up anytime I do. This is why I try to keep my stuff as close to vanilla as possible. If anything goes wrong on a server and someone sees I have a whole bunch of dot files to customize my config, it becomes a red herring that I have to spend time explaining away.

cr125rider 3 hours ago

monsieurbanana 4 hours ago

Sometimes I ssh into a server as a specific user (e.g. as the "app" user that is used to run a web app), sometimes only root is available (probably not best practice, but it's not like I can or want to fix it myself).

In any case it's not practical to carry your dotfiles everywhere you go. Changes are also a hassle to propagate

toniantunovi 23 minutes ago

One thing that often gets overlooked in the tmux vs. alternatives debate is that tmux's staying power is largely about ubiquity on remote servers. Zellij is great on your local machine where you control the environment, but if you're doing a lot of work via ssh on machines you don't own, tmux is almost certainly already installed. The muscle memory transfers too.

That said, I'd push back on the idea that the default tmux config is just "ugly". The real usability issue is that the keybindings are so divorced from how people intuitively think about splits and windows that even experienced users can't remember them. The visual defaults are just a symptom of the deeper problem that it was designed for someone who already had a mental model built around screen.

seemaze 4 hours ago

I've been thoroughly impressed with tmux control mode[0] in iTerm2. This lets you manage remote terminal windows with your local window management provider. It is currently in the process of being implemented in ghostty[1] as well, can't wait!

[0] https://github.com/tmux/tmux/wiki/Control-Mode

[1] https://github.com/ghostty-org/ghostty/issues/1935#issuecomm...

zzyzxd an hour ago

> Less awkward prefix keys

> Probably the most common change among tmux users is to change the prefix from the rather awkward C-b to something that’s a little more accessible.

I like the awkwardness of the default prefix key. I have almost never activated it by accident.

> Intuitive Split Commands

> Another thing I personally find quite difficult to remember is the pane splitting commands." to split vertically and % to split horizontally just doesn’t work for my brain.

This is super intuitive to me. two ' in parallel means splitting horizontally. two ° split by an almost horizontal line means splitting vertically.

> Easy Config Reloads

I reloaded config over a few hundreds of times in my first week learning tmux a decade ago. I only reloaded config once in the last 5 years if I recall correctly. It's not something you should memorize.

heatmiser 4 hours ago

I read "tmux 2: mouse-free productivity" in a weekend years ago and it may be, pound-for-pound, one of the more impactful books on my productivity.

Seems like they are keeping up-to-date too: https://bookshop.org/p/books/tmux-3-productive-mouse-free-de...

tosti 4 hours ago

The book doesn't mention the author of tmux or its origins even once :(

racl101 3 hours ago

I believe that book would be called: "History of Tmux"

racl101 3 hours ago

Thanks for the reference.

yoyohello13 4 hours ago

If you're interested in an out of the box multiplexer. https://zellij.dev/ is great. I've been using it for about a year now and loving it.

tosti 4 hours ago

Your out of the box isn't my out of the box. Tmux is in main on OpenBSD, where it started.

amdivia 37 minutes ago

My main gripe with tmux is the nested use case (tmux session on my local machine, in which I ssh to another machine, only to tmux attach within the remote machine too). Is there a terminal multiplexer/session daemon that supports nested sessions out of the box with ease?

she46BiOmUerPVj 27 minutes ago

I wrote quite a bit of configuration to support an "outer" tmux process and "inner" tmux processes on all the remote hosts I have various and different tasks to accomplish. I am not sure how some software would manage these, but in the very least configuring my outer session to use Ctrl+a while the inner one uses Ctrl+b is working well. I have aliases that specify a socket so I can refer to the sessions easily and not get them confused.

tosti 4 hours ago

I like having a red bar for tmux running as root and a blue one for running it as a normal user, e.g. for root:

    set -g status-style "bg=red"
I also like to have the bar on top and the status centered:

    set -g status-justify absolute-centre
    set -g status-position top

stonecharioteer 4 hours ago

I change the color of the bar in every server I've set it up so I know absolutely where I am.

tosti 4 hours ago

Aren't you going to run out of colors to pick?

himata4113 4 hours ago

I highly recommend just turning the mouse on, it's amazing for resizing panels and the rightclick menu is nice.

  set -g mouse on
for multi-monitor setups

  setw -g aggressive-resize on
is also really nice.

throwa356262 3 hours ago

Honestly, this is the only configuration I need.

Wish they could make this default, not sure why they haven't.

himata4113 3 hours ago

xterm, probably

a lot of servers use tmux which probably has some weird broken edge cases

jzer0cool 3 hours ago

Could never get mouse copy to work well (using mac at moment). When I make text selection, selects yellow and upon release goes to terminal prompt. I had one config work at one point and it kept selecting from all panes, not just one the one I'm in. Any ideas?

douglee650 an hour ago

This is also why i gave up on it. Don't want to install iTerm either, more blaot.

never_inline 2 hours ago

Try iterm2 which has mouse reporting

strogonoff 4 hours ago

There’s many ways tmux could be used, but when it is part of IDE the most important usability tweaks that make tmux rock for me personally are:

— session configuration save/recall (with pane layout for each tab and directory for each pane[0]),

— nvim integration (for seamless split navigation and so that I can create or reattach to a tmux session in an nvim float, even though that nvim usually runs inside tmux),

— a bind to force-reload a pane if (when!) a command hangs.

For switching between tabs, I find that the ideal bind is simply Cmd + pane number. There’s never more than ten tabs that I’d often want to switch to within a single session. The highest number is probably four tabs. Each tab is typically assigned a high-level part of the project.

[0] I always forget what terminology a given multiplexer uses, so let’s just call them “panes” and “tabs”.

thcipriani 2 hours ago

Ctrl-a interferes with readline shortcuts. I've been using Ctrl-<Space>: nothing, as far as I know, binds to that.

    unbind C-b
    set-option -g prefix C-Space
    bind-key C-Space send-prefix

kombine a minute ago

Same, I used C-a for a while until I found out its default mapping is jumping to the beginning of the line so I rebound tmux prefix to C-Space. Now my only problem is on a few servers where I haven't copied my dotfiles.

mhw an hour ago

I’ve been using Ctrl-s for years. Nothing else uses it because it’s historically been used for terminal flow control, but that doesn’t really have much use in a graphical terminal with history and scrollbars and so I’ve never missed it. Has similar two-finger ergonomics to the Ctrl-a bind as well.

edit: oh, and I think Ctrl-space is the keystroke to get a nul character, and vi uses that character to insert the last entered piece of text in insert mode. It looks like Ctrl-@ does the same things, but tmux might not be able to tell the difference either.

kenforthewin an hour ago

I'm constantly fighting with tmux copying. I want it to perform like native copying, but in mouse mode it seems to copy more characters than I want, copy newlines when I don't want them, and doesn't copy to clipboard in tmux-in-tmux situations.

colton_padden 3 hours ago

I prefer to hide the status bar entirely, and use an fzf-powered named window switcher to navigate between windows.

https://github.com/cmpadden/dotfiles/blob/6e767691a6b1295260...

nickjj 2 hours ago

One nice thing about tmux is it also supports include files in its config.

This lets you put your theme colors in a different file, such as `source-file "~/.config/tmux/theme.conf"` and then your theme switching external script or tool can symlink a specific theme's tmux file to that path.

That's what I do in my dotfiles:

    # Main tmux config
    https://github.com/nickjj/dotfiles/blob/master/.config/tmux/tmux.conf

    # One of the theme files
    https://github.com/nickjj/dotfiles/blob/master/themes/tokyonight-moon/tmux.conf
It allows for hot-reloading different themes as well.

halfwhey 4 hours ago

My two favorite tmux QoL improvements are enabling seamless navigation between neovim and tmux (there are many plugins but i use this one https://github.com/aserowy/tmux.nvim) and extrakto which lets you fuzzy select anything in the tmux buffer and insert into the cursor or copy it to the clipboard. (https://github.com/laktak/extrakto)

1vuio0pswjnm7 4 hours ago

I prefer to use tmux non-interactively. For example, I use it for running daemons in the foreground, (textmode) screen scraping and scripting text-only browser

I do almost all interactive work while detached from tmux (personal preference)

I also rely on tmux buffers for a textmode "clipboard". I do not use x11

I've been using tmux since 2011 well before it became popular. I only use a fraction of its features

pavel_lishin 4 hours ago

> I do almost all interactive work while detached from tmux

How come?

shye 2 hours ago

What I don't see discussed is why tmux (and screen) are still a thing, when we have windowed desktops for 40+ years now.

Disconnecting a session's lifetime from the connection's lifetime hardly need such lengthy tutorial.

And displaying and arranging multiple virtual terminals was supposed to be the job of the terminal emulator and the windowing system.

podoman 2 hours ago

Big fan of all of the items mentioned here. I love the "intuitive split commands" -- I'll add that.

For the vim/nvim fans out there, I try my best to add "vim-style" key bindings for navigating between panes, so that e.g. ctrl-h, ctrl-j, ctrl-k, and ctrl-l can be used to move around qukcly. My dotfiles are here:

https://github.com/jay-khatri/dotfiles/blob/main/.tmux.conf

hamasho 4 hours ago

I use c-q for prefix key because it doesn’t conflict with common zsh and vim bindings.

Because the author suggested swapping caps lock and control key, I also recommend mapping escape key at the control key and change the behavior based on whether another key is pressed. For example, if you press control + a, it sends c-a, but if you only press control key and then release, it sends escape. It makes your vim life (and in general) a lot easier. You don’t have to compete the most variable real estate on the keyboard, right next to the A key.

For most bindings like moving, resizing, and splitting,I emulate vim bindings.

Also, -r flag for bind-key command is impotent, because it enables to repeat commands like changing the pane size or move focus. You don’t have to press prefix key each time.

If you want to get fancy look with minimal setting, use plugins like nord tmux theme.

pavel_lishin 3 hours ago

Hard agree on intuitive splits, I do this as well.

My hotkey is the backtick, `, rather than a chord.

The one thing I still struggle with - because it happens rarely - is easily copying the contents, full or partial, of a particular pane.

post-it 4 hours ago

I appreciate that tmux has theoretical advantages over screen, but man does the implementation suck. On Mac it still seems like there's no way to copy text if you have mouse mode on (at least in code-server).

adamors 4 hours ago

Select copies, what do you mean?

post-it 3 hours ago

Not for me. Some kind of OSC 52 problem.

ramses0 3 hours ago

Often, holding down "Shift" while making mouse selections will "break through" and let you get at the O.S. copy/paste/selection mechanism. Highly terminal dependent, though!

post-it 9 minutes ago

Not in browsers, unfortunately. Both my work and Home Assistant OS use tmux in a browser tty, and I have to turn off mouse mode to copy.

szopa 4 hours ago

Yeah, that really sucks. I couldn’t quite believe what was the case and spent many hours trying to debug it.

ihowlatthemoon 4 hours ago

post-it 6 minutes ago

I haven't tried it, but it looks like it just calls pbcopy, which won't work in a browser. There's no programmatic way to do it, because tmux can't access the clipboard.

chasd00 2 hours ago

I was wondering about tmux vs screen (+splitvt) but didn’t want to ask. What are the advantages?

rbanffy 3 hours ago

I like to have an IBM 3270 style status bar on the bottom.

    set-option -gq status-style "fg=brightblue,overline"

pprotas 2 hours ago

I used tmux for quite some time, and just stopped using it one day. I realized that whatever tmux brings can be done better by a good terminal.

I also hated dealing with all the wrong colors, escape character support, missing chars and messed up terminal buffers

cassepipe 2 hours ago

Wezterm for examples has panes in addition of tabs and scriptable enough (lua) that you can session management:

https://fredrikaverpil.github.io/blog/2024/10/20/session-man...

alwillis an hour ago

Most modern terminals have a built-in multiplexing anyway. When you use tmux, you're essentially using a terminal emulator on top of a terminal emulator.

bsdz 3 hours ago

At some point I switched to "oh my tmux" which seems to cover most of the customisations I needed https://github.com/gpakosz/.tmux

5-0 2 hours ago

> Published on Aug 17, 2015 > Last updated on Oct 2, 2024

Why now?

At least some of the links in it don't mention plugins (which luckily some comments here do). Beside tmux-continuum and tmux-sensible, I'd recommend jaclu/tmux-menus.

christiansafka 3 hours ago

I would also describe haventerminal.com as making tmux pretty and usable! but without any setup steps, first class support for agents, and management of multiple machines. Disclaimer: It's a macOS app we just launched and it ships its own open source session persistence.

jimbokun 4 hours ago

Any guides for tmux configuration that works well with Emacs? The use of Ctrl and Meta for basic operations conflicts with a lot of Emacs commands.

stebalien 4 hours ago

My experience is that Emacs wants to be your everything, and works best if you let it. Have you tried putting your terminals inside of Emacs instead of the other way around?

* If you need a "real" terminal emulator, you can use something like vterm (https://github.com/akermu/emacs-libvterm/).

* If you need to be able to attach/detach Emacs sessions on remote machines, you can use something like dtach or abducto (https://www.brain-dump.org/projects/abduco/).

alexhans 4 hours ago

Tmux conflicted with my vim bindings and i tweaked the tmux.conf to fit my needs. It's worth playing around on pure tmux and figuring out what would work for you.

monological 3 hours ago

The only reason I don't use tmux is because of how annoying it is to look at scrollback. Am I using it wrong?

lancebeet 3 hours ago

I would "just" do C-B PgUp and then use vi-like movement keys like hj, gg/G etc., and q to escape the pager, but I realize now that I say it that it doesn't sound very convenient or discoverable.

client4 3 hours ago

C-b [ allows you to scroll up/down

Morantron 3 hours ago

One way to make tmux way more usable is to use tmux-fingers, which provides hint-based mouse-free copypaste capabilities

https://github.com/morantron/tmux-fingers

(disclaimer: I'm the developer of the plugin)

hugodan 4 hours ago

I would love to have a way to switch sessions easily, like with panes where I just click or have more shortcuts available

saint_yossarian 16 minutes ago

Check out the `choose-tree` and `display-menu` commands.

gsinclair 3 hours ago

People have developed plugins for this. Check out “sesh” for instance.

Switching between sessions with fuzzy finding, and creating new ones when needed, is a wonderful feature.

lozf 4 hours ago

Prefix-w works, or did you want something more?

OhMeadhbh 3 hours ago

I'm perfectly happy with tmux the way it is, but upvoting this one because it's a decent overview of what to modify to make tmux more better if you don't like its defaults.

0xDEFACED 3 hours ago

my favorite thing to do with tmux is using a sessionizer script[0] (credit for the idea/original implementation goes to ThePrimeagen). allows for fzf-ing my projects and creating a separate session for each one. especially handy for bouncing around when working on features/fixes that span multiple repos

for (neo)vim users, flattening vim splits and tmux panes into the same level for switching with ctrl+hjkl is handy too

[0](https://github.com/tolly-xyz/dotfiles/blob/main/.local%2Fbin...)

traderj0e 4 hours ago

I've always written my code in vim and preferred CLIs in general, but I really want a GUI for the terminal itself, including tmux. iTerm2 makes it nice for example, even if it's only to use the meta/super key instead of the heavily overloaded control.

knubie 4 hours ago

I stopped using tmux when I started using kitty terminal with native split windows. I prefer the native window management of kitty, but I do miss the session saving of tmux (e.g. if I accidentally close a tab).

kjs3 4 hours ago

but I do miss the session saving of tmux

Interesting...I kinda thought that was 90% of the use case for using tmux.

orbital-decay 4 hours ago

There are many separate session persistence daemons: dtach, zmx, hauntty, shpool, diss, abduco - take your pick

0xbadcafebee 4 hours ago

screen's another nice one. been using it for 25 years, so far so good

vessenes 4 hours ago

leephillips 3 hours ago

Recent versions of Kitty have sessions. https://sw.kovidgoyal.net/kitty/sessions/

jpeeler 14 minutes ago

I was going to say, but zellij doesn't connect the session to the GUI. However, I did not know about kitty's --use-foreground-process, which doesn't solve the problem completely but may be good enough.

https://sw.kovidgoyal.net/kitty/sessions/#more-complex-sessi...

nurettin 36 minutes ago

I remember running ssh to connect to a mainframe and starting gnu screen remotely right after watching the matrix. And I've used it ever since.

All these newage tmux hippie yuppies can get off my lawn.

tombert 3 hours ago

I almost never bother theming things on my computer; I usually don't really care about how things look and I can't be bothered with it.

I have two exceptions to this: NeoVim and tmux.

tmux in particular looks very ugly out of the box; I'm not sure why they decided to have a bright green bar on the bottom (presumably to be high-contrast in a low color terminal), but I really hate staring at it all day (since I kind of live in tmux most of the day on both my work and personal computer). I have it set as close as I can to the Wombat color scheme that's built into emacs (and which can be easily added to Vim), because I personally have always felt that that was the most pleasant theme to stare at for long periods of time.

Another thing I do is set the prefix key to backtick. I have no idea why I started doing this, but at this point I'm too geriatric to change, and I still greatly prefer this over ctrl-b. The only issue I've had is when I need to do code blocks in markdown, but I've just gotten used to hitting backtick twice when I need to actually use a backtick.

hybirdss 3 hours ago

feels wrong to scp a dotfile to a server you only touch once

hleszek 3 hours ago

I love tmux but one thing which really annoys me is the fact that I cannot use the mouse wheel or the scroll back to see the previous content. I know there are shortcuts to go forward and back but I always forget them and they are not easily accessible on my keyboard and cumbersome.

saint_yossarian 11 minutes ago

I think the mouse wheel is mapped by default if you `set mouse on`? I also additionally map Shift-PageUp/Down in my config. And recently they added a `pane-scrollbars` option for a clickable ASCII scrollbar.

kristopolous 4 hours ago

Worth mentioning my tmux llm chat helper sidechat: https://github.com/day50-dev/sidechat

I use it every day.

faangguyindia 4 hours ago

i used to use tmux a lot when i used to develop on arch, since i moved to macos i never installed it.

tbh i even forgot what it used to buy me.

jackbravo 2 hours ago

Another easy to use option is using byobu (https://github.com/dustinkirkland/byobu).

capitainenemo 4 hours ago

I've had the ctrl-a setup ever since migrating from screen to tmux, just due to muscle memory. But it is more conveniently located than ctrl-b - it's also rather nice if I have multiple nested layers of tmux due to temporary ones on other hosts. Sure you can just keep repeating the bind, but, just remembering that the second layer uses ctrl-b is a bit more convenient I feel. Slows me down a little, but usually I'm not using the 2nd layer as much.

I don't use capslock for ctrl though. It's much too useful as the Compose key ;)

Lihh27 4 hours ago

the most tmux thing in the world is that "make tmux usable" is still a genre.

imiric 3 hours ago

I've used ` as prefix for years now. Considering how often you switch windows/panes, I reckon using a single character has saved me hours per year. :D

It rarely conflicts with whatever I'm doing, but I have a binding to temporarily switch it to `C-a` and back, which I almost never use.

Oh, and I've used this themepack[1] for years as well.

Actually, here's my config[2] if someone finds it useful. I can't claim ownership of it, and probably stole it from somewhere I don't remember anymore.

BTW, the author's site https://rootloops.sh/ is certainly... something. :)

[1]: https://github.com/jimeh/tmux-themepack

[2]: https://gist.github.com/imiric/9bd3e5b7fc5e1468d05abc674f42e...

garymiklos 3 hours ago

Just use smux.dev

znpy 3 hours ago

As a long time user of gnu screen (almost fifteen years now) i still have on my todo list to come up with a tmux config that mimics gnu screen… does somebody know if such a thing exists already?

Btw I don’t strictly believe in a gnu screen superiority, i’m just lazy.

Ravitej_Neeli 4 hours ago

nice update on tmux

troupo 4 hours ago

I ended up AI-slopcoding myself a small shell script for the few things I need from tmux: https://gist.github.com/dmitriid/523a5229c9a17a1cf4ad9182f4c...

I just couldn't be bothered to remember all the prefixed commands :)

0dayman 5 hours ago

that's pretty nice, but did you try cmux.com

wffurr 4 hours ago

That's a totally different thing. Native macOS app vs portable terminal multiplexer. My main use case for tmux is detaching and re-attaching to a session on a remote server, for which it's extremely useful.

jarredkenny 4 hours ago

I've been building a tmux wrapper that is similar you might be interested in. https://jmux.build

faangguyindia 4 hours ago

what does it add over screen which i don't even need to install?

wffurr 2 hours ago

esseph 3 hours ago

stonecharioteer 4 hours ago

That's what I tell people who keep telling me to try cmux. It's false advertising to say it's like tmux. No, Zellij, sure. But not this. I will hold onto tmux forever and you'll have to pry it from my cold dead hands.

phito 4 hours ago

OP doesn't seem to be on Mac

TheRealPomax 4 hours ago

Even if they are, cmux isn't an alternative to tmux, as it can't attach to/detach from sessions, which is usually the whole reason to use tmux.

traderj0e an hour ago

_345 3 hours ago

I actually asked chatgpt to recommend me a great starter tmux conf, and it gave me 80% of this blog post. Not an insult btw.