Show HN: MDV – a Markdown superset for docs, dashboards, and slides with data (github.com)
87 points by drasim 9 hours ago
kevinkoning 7 hours ago
Markdown is a beautiful demonstration that document structure syntax can/should be simple. What most people do in Word is better done by just adjusting the document rendering/style, not the document structure...
I love the idea of extending markdown to include more visual elements, but if you're not careful you just reinvent HTML.
Here's my personal take on extending table syntax for charts. Easy to write, and if a renderer/parser understands the syntax you get a beautiful chart, and if it doesn't you get a table with slightly weird headings:
| Month::x | Revenue::y1 | Cost::y2 |
| -------- | ----------: | -------: |
| Jan | $82,000 | $51,000 |
| Feb | $91,000 | $56,000 |
| Mar | $95,000 | $58,000 |rao-v 6 hours ago
Tables are the one thing in markdown where I’d prefer to emphasize edit ergonomics over good looking unrendered text. Making a quick manual change like adding column to a markdown table is just unfun. I’ve always thought a json like format that a linter can organize would be better.
Which is all to say I really like the table proposal here - adding an optional linter to make the data look tabular in unrendered markdown will make it even better
freedomben 5 hours ago
> Making a quick manual change like adding column to a markdown table is just unfun.
This is one of those moments where I realize that the vim life spoils me. It's so easy to do this in vim that I don't even think about. I probably use it a dozen times per day such as commenting out code.
Ctrl + v, select where you want the character, then hit I (shift + i), type your thing, hit escape, and Bob's your uncle.
jez 4 hours ago
nine_k 4 hours ago
cush 4 hours ago
Any editor plugin makes it easy though
esafak 7 hours ago
What's the : in the divider?
microflash 7 hours ago
That's header alignment marker. If it's on right, the header cell is aligned to right.
amcaskill 7 hours ago
I work on a dashboarding / BI solution that is also built around markdown and clickhouse. www.evidence.dev
We moved to stripe's Markdoc variant for the component syntax last year and have been really happy with it. Models are good at writing it, people are good at reviewing it.
Here's an area chart that would issue a SQL query for weekly revenue totals:
``` {% area_chart data="my_table" x="date" y="sum(revenue)" date_grain="week" /%} ```
tnolet 3 hours ago
This is XML without the < and >
Diti 3 hours ago
Yeah, why not go directly the route of custom HTML elements in Markdown anyway, since HTML inside Markdown is valid?
FailMore 3 hours ago
This is cool. Can you tell me more about the :: blocks thing. I didn’t know that was a Markdown element.
This problem has risen to the top of many people’s minds at this moment (including mine!). My Show HN for a similar cli + web based solution (https://sdocs.dev) is on the /show page now (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47777633).
I also went with Front Matter for styling and added an interactive styling mode you can do on the web to test it out immediately. There are some examples on my homepage which demonstrate it in action.
SDocs is cli -> instantly rendered on web
Despite being in the browser, the content of SDocs rendered Markdown files remain local to you. SDoc urls contain your markdown document's content in compressed base64 in the url fragment (the bit after the `#`): https://sdocs.dev/#md=GzcFAMT...(this is the contents of your document)... The url fragment is never sent to the server (see https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/URI/Reference/F...: "The fragment is not sent to the server when the URI is requested; it is processed by the client").
The sdocs.dev webapp is purely a client side decoding and rendering engine for the content stored in the url fragment.
This also means you can share your .md files privately by sharing the url.
Also, I’m sorry I high jacked your post to some degree with this comment. It’s just a little too relevant for me not to leave a comment!
sieste 5 hours ago
I was expecting to find a link to a github pages site where I can see the rendered examples, but only found a link to the html sources in examples/out. Am I missing something?
bthallplz 4 hours ago
I was curious to see them, too, so I uploaded the HTML examples here: https://tacticaltypos-tools.pgs.sh/mdv/examples/out/
trueno 3 hours ago
jesus thank you, im so wary of any project that isn't going to do this bare minimum. static pages on gh are literally free it feels absurd to post this project to HN without doing that.
FailMore 2 hours ago
I feel your pain. My project is https://sdocs.dev, the homepage is actually the rendering of a markdown file (sdoc.md), so you can see how SDocs renders immediately. There are some links on the homepage to other Markdown files with some elaborate styles and charts
garyfirestorm 4 hours ago
nope this is becoming a theme. many showhn posts that are about visualizations do not have any renderings of said visualizations. especially in github readme.
dhruv3006 41 minutes ago
I like how markdown has now become a trend - would be interesting to see how this tool matures !
PS : Even I built an API tool on markdown - https://voiden.md.
nzoschke 6 hours ago
Looks cool.
I continue to love Markdown and always push it a bit further than Commonmark, with frontmatter, schemas, code fence metadata too.
I've been enjoying https://djot.net/ as a superset of Markdown that is feels very well designed and extensible too.
You may look into its syntax and tooling for prior art or some extra lift.
I'm trying to get a djot extension in Zed for syntax highlighting if anyone minds adding a to help signal some community interest.
pixelmonkey 3 hours ago
This seems cool. For going from Markdown to slides I’ve often used Marp: https://marp.app/ — It doesn’t require much specialized syntax, it mostly does the right thing to turn plain Markdown sections into slides. Simple self-hostable HTML output and PDF export options. Already has a VSCode preview plugin, too. I noticed that Claude Code is able to generate Marp slides for you if you ask it, as well.
Best for slides that are just bullet points, full-slide images, and code. Especially code. Less good if you have a lot of images or need to do your own styles or layout.
phyzix5761 7 hours ago
Nice project. But at what point does Markdown just become Emacs Org-Mode? At least with Emacs you can write Lisp to make your document do anything you want.
AlecSchueler 7 hours ago
Deepening on who your users are you might also say "at least with markdown they write Lisp and make their documents do whatever they like."
arikrahman 6 hours ago
I'm struggling to figure out why I wouldn't just use Emacs Org or even Typst for this use case.
maleldil 3 hours ago
Typst is amazing, but if you want HTML output, it's not quite there yet.
remywang 7 hours ago
All of these are supported in pandoc markdown:
> .mdv is strict CommonMark plus four additions:
> YAML front-matter for title, theme, named styles, and dataset references.
> Fenced blocks for data/visuals: ```chart type=bar x=region y=sales.
> ::: containers for styled regions and layout: ::: callout / ::: columns.
> ::: toc for an auto-generated table of contents.
woodydesign 6 hours ago
Very cool.
I’m a product designer, and I could totally see this fitting into my workflow for design briefs, strategy, review, and crit docs. Markdown is too simple, and Figma is too visual. This feels like a great middle ground.
ifh-hn 6 hours ago
I'm using quarto for this sort of thing.
gkfasdfasdf 3 hours ago
Looks wonderful, is there a skill or prompt that can teach agents how to use this format?
FailMore 3 hours ago
Maybe not a direct answer to your question, but https://sdocs.dev has a cli built for agents. ‘sdoc —help’ and ‘sdoc schema’ and ‘sdoc charts’ teach your agent how to use it. You can try it with ‘npm i -g sdocs-dev’
gkfasdfasdf 19 minutes ago
Putting the markdown in the URL, that is very clever!