Google changes its search box (blog.google)
413 points by berkeleyjunk 9 hours ago
fscaramuzza 7 hours ago
What scares me about this new AI mode thingy is that every answer sounds like a systematic literature review, but only for the results. For example, if I look for users feedback about a specific product, it says "People think that..., but also that...; It's important to notice that some people ..." where with 'people' it means just a random comment on a random website just because it thought it was a good contribution to the results. Sounds like it's giving a ground truth from "multiple" data, when instead it's just aggregating almost random stuff. In the context of a systematic review, the feature that I would love the most is augmenting my initial query, so that I can just get more results that I could find interesting. I am 100% sure they thought about this, but ignored it for the most profitable option.
burnte 7 hours ago
> What scares me about this new AI mode thingy
What scares me is the rampant inaccuracy. In my experience, the AI responses are wrong about 65% of the time. I just did a search today about an error talking about a disconnected link between apps, and Google AI result summary told me that the error was related to my pulling a USB drive too quickly in windows. The ONLY word similar to my query and that AI response was the word "disconnect". Everything else was clearly about the SaaS apps.
I have people coming to me, asking me questions, then telling my Google told them something else, so now I have to waste time convincing them that it's wrong. Over the past 2 years AI has done nothing for me but complicate my work life.
And of course, this could be because the model is crap, but it could be because they want me to keep refining my query over and over for more ad views. Either way, it's a terrible experience.
sanitycheck 7 hours ago
Yep. For years we've been telling people to 'just fucking google it', and now when they do they're getting bullshit AI answers.
Worst thing is, some of these bullshit answers will be medical, some of them financial, it seems pretty certain people are being harmed.
pants2 2 hours ago
Robotbeat 2 hours ago
RyanOD 6 hours ago
awesome_dude an hour ago
xorcist 5 hours ago
It's nice that Google's AI summary always lists its sources. It's less nice that those sources more often than not do not corroborate the summary. It often seems to be a few random links thrown in there for good measure.
I have no idea why this is, but it is impossible that these links are primary sources of the data, if such things even exists at all. In which case, why list them?
It is certainly seems possible that the actual sources of the data is the output of some other LLM.
kyleee 5 hours ago
arcanemachiner 3 hours ago
Reminds me of this gem:
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fn...
godelski 3 hours ago
> What scares me is the rampant inaccuracy
What scares me is the massive incentivization to manipulate the results.With AI ads you get all the power from big data aggregation, the trust/framing of an authoritative voice, and cheap personalization that specifically optimizes for what convinces you. It's too powerful. Even if it only works a small percentage of the time we're interacting with these things so frequently that a small percent is a large number. They're already feeding user profiles into these machines and there's explicit talk about having the LLMs optimize ad campaigns. It's already dystopian if it's ads to get you to spend your money, but people seem to dismiss that. Do we not care that this is also being used in the same way to convince you to believe certain things? To join certain political organizations?
Yeah, these things help me write more lines of code faster (if we include all the lines from our design docs) but I don't like the idea of pointing a supercomputer at my brain and someone else using it to try to manipulate me. That's not a game I'll win. It's not a game you'll win either.
wvenable 21 minutes ago
Free AI's are dumb. Extremely dumb. The Google AI result is dumb on purpose -- being smart requires more compute.
redml 2 hours ago
accuracy hasn't been their priority for a while now - they just want people to click on ads
HDBaseT 4 hours ago
The built-in Search AI is fucking braindead and people constantly come up to me "Google said xyz" and I just have to turn around and say "I do not care what the Google Search AI said".
Whatever it says is a waste of time 99% of the time. Although people believe it, or consider it worthwhile majority of the time because its so simple to use. It's always there, always instant and appears at the very top.
I would much rather people shove a question into a locally running Qwen model and tell me what it said rather than use the nonsense search model. I hate it.
/rant over.
dzhiurgis 5 hours ago
Google has been around for a quarter of a century. People are still incredibly dumb and will believe whatever they like.
WarmWash 5 hours ago
Can you share the query?
youre-wrong3 7 hours ago
> the AI responses are wrong about 65% of the time
Highly doubtful.
qurren 7 hours ago
a1o 6 hours ago
ChoGGi 6 hours ago
dylan604 7 hours ago
OGWhales 7 hours ago
Yup, I was looking up a pair of IEMS vs another pair of IEMs. It said option A is overall better, when really it was just reciting a single person's opinion. I've been aware it will summarize only a single source and present it as an aggregation of many opinions, but it stood out to me how matter-of-fact it was that the one was definitely better than the other. I simply wanted to find forum discussions on people's thought and wasn't influenced by this AI blurb, but I think seeing an answer at the very top state so matter-of-factly that one is definitely better and present it as though everyone thinks that will definitely influence a lot of people. It makes me wonder how "gameable" this will become...
dylan604 7 hours ago
> It makes me wonder how "gameable" this will become...
You better make sure your ad spend is high enough that your product's matter-of-fact result will be positive. That's a nice product you have there. It'd be a real shame if nobody knew about it.
tapland 6 hours ago
Since the best resource is personal recommendations, got any entry level cheap IEM recommendations?
Primarily to avoid even more headphone dent, not an audiophile
OGWhales 6 hours ago
9029 6 hours ago
skydhash an hour ago
DANmode 6 hours ago
> I simply wanted to find forum discussions on people's thought
Why didn’t you tell the robot that, as your query?
OGWhales 6 hours ago
appplication 5 hours ago
Indeed - just earlier this week I read Google AI summarize a query about testosterone, citing 3 sources. The first citation was a link to a NIH study (or of similar repute). Ok great. The second? Two spam (and explicit) websites existing solely to sell penis enlargement pills.
What was worrying is only some of the claims were supported by the linked study, and most of the response content was drawn from the spam sites.
moritzwarhier 5 hours ago
This problem is not limited to Google, it's the core value of mass-marketed LLMs, or isn't it?
Without "random comments", Google wouldn't have anything to say about "does an air purifier help my asthma, if yes: which one?" or "find the problem with this Hibernate annotation".
They also don't make much effort to exclude sloppy sites, to the contrary, they made way more efforts against SEO spam in the time when Google was a search engine, not trying to be an AI "oracle".
I think their end game is that the only metrics relevant for ranking sources are:
- agreeability (works well as a proxy for correctness with many questions!)
- originality, but not in a scientific sense, just to prevent model collapse
- legal factors such as preventing false health claims or similar things, as long as there is legislation against this kind of thing
Gigachad 2 hours ago
I’ve noticed this too. A single result can determine the answer it gives. And removing the content from its context makes it harder to assess. Suddenly it’s “Gemini said …” rather than “some guy in the YouTube comments said”.
geon 7 hours ago
And half the time, the sources turn out to be sarcastic jokes on reddit.
dylan604 6 hours ago
So the bots are not recognizing the sarcasm font?
9dev 6 hours ago
650REDHAIR 3 hours ago
I ran into one that kept referencing "people", but then I found that it was a single Reddit thread from a couple of years ago about a relatively small and obscure foreign city with 2 replies.
Gigachad 2 hours ago
AI is the new “many people are saying”.
_carbyau_ 4 hours ago
The scary bit is the use of the term AI. The "I" implies critical thinking.
For models trained on a corpus of groomed data, the "critical thinking" bit is baked into the work of grooming the data and how it is trained. And someone is thinking critically about both so as to make a good model.
Now, every damn thing is called AI no matter where it is getting results from.
Are modern models super handy? Absolutely.
But calling it AI implies a lot more critical thought than is actually happening!
Edit: took the time to write a shorter comment.
toasty228 6 hours ago
Wait until you realize half of the sources already are LLM generated diarrhea
autoexec 5 hours ago
The problem of AI eating and regurgitating its own slop is only going to get worse with time. The best datasets are behind us. Future models are going to have to depend on a lot of human intervention.
Gigachad 2 hours ago
WalterBright 5 hours ago
I tend to frame questions to google from a programmer point of view - I'm carefully specific. I seem to get good results that way.
halJordan 5 hours ago
What's old is new again lol
12_throw_away 3 hours ago
stefan_ 7 hours ago
What scares me are the basic usability fails it still has. Search for a few foreign language words and it will come back with paragraphs upon paragraphs of AI output in that foreign language despite me telling Google in 15 different ways that I don't speak it, nor anything else on the Google page being in that language. How are all their products always made by and for the most narrow minded people on this planet.
glandium 2 hours ago
Funnily enough, I have the exact opposite problem, where Google likes to give me results in the configured main language even when I do queries in another and actually want results in the other language.
skillina 2 hours ago
thunderfork 6 hours ago
Kysely is the name of a typescript query builder and also Finnish for "query".
Recently, it's started answering any search about Kysely with a blob of Finnish. Awesome stuff, guys, great work.
dminik 5 hours ago
latexr 7 hours ago
> "People think that..., but also that...; It's important to notice that some people ..." where with 'people' it means just a random comment on a random website
WarmWash 5 hours ago
>where with 'people' it means just a random comment on a random website just because it thought it was a good contribution to the results.
Hate to break it to you, but this has been the backbone of "journalism" for the last decade.
Fishing Twitter for takes to fill the "people are saying" box...
cyanydeez 7 hours ago
Well, you'll be happy to know that most of American media is exactly the same way: 2 people on twitter will generate a "Americans find Widget X is bad"
jstummbillig 6 hours ago
> when instead it's just aggregating almost random stuff
How do you know that?
Scraping websites is literally what Google does best, stringing together information in the pattern of "some people x, other people y" requires 0 AI and could have been done since forever. I find it implausible that otherwise obviously capable models would be reduced to do something akin to just that.
youre-wrong3 7 hours ago
Oh who cares. We are barely scratching the surface of AI. You all make it sound like it’s been around for 30 years and it sucks. It will only get better. Got to stop throwing up imaginary walls like nothing will improve.
webstrand 6 hours ago
As a counterexample, I've been seeing more "safety rejections" from Claude. Unlike search, being unable to ask _anything_ about botulinum, or details about the recent Copy Fail vulnerability (without giving my fingerprints to Anthropic to become a "verified security researcher") we're only just beginning to see the ways LLM can be used to distort information and its availability.
throwatdem12311 3 hours ago
My grandfather was one of the first people in Canada to own a commercially available chainsaw.
Let me tell you - it didn’t take 30 years for people to figure out that chainsaws were useful.
UncleMeat 6 hours ago
That's fine if we aren't destroying existing products to replace them with AI.
People can already use AI mode in google search if they want. "It'll be better later" is a shit reason to kill one product for it.
youre-wrong3 3 hours ago
jamiek88 6 hours ago
So you started with ‘highly doubtful’ as a comment, got given lots of examples and instead of assimilating that info you closed your eyes put your fingers in yours ears and said “oh who cares?’ - you’re on team AI regardless eh? That’s fucking weird mate.
youre-wrong3 3 hours ago
starkeeper a minute ago
barf but it at least opens up the playing field for new startups that want to provide good old index search and try to beat them where they left off when search still worked 8 years ago before they hired the yahoo POS execs that enshitified the service.
divbzero 5 hours ago
It’s diverged quite a bit from the original:
<form method="GET" action="/search">
...
<center>
Search the web using Google!
<br>
<input type="text" name="query" value="" size="40">
<br>
<select name="num">
<option value="10" selected>10 results
<option value="30">30 results
<option value="100">100 results
</select>
<input type="submit" value="Google Search">
<input type="submit" name="sa" value="I'm feeling lucky">
<br>
<i>Index contains ~25 million pages (soon to be much bigger)</i>
</center>
...
</form>
https://web.archive.org/web/19981111183552/http://google.sta...dullcrisp 5 hours ago
When did they change the "query" to q?
krackers 4 hours ago
Saving bytes on the wire?
dullcrisp 2 hours ago
arionhardison 8 hours ago
I'm old enough to remember when "Google" was something that ended conversations. People — myself included — would literally say "Google it," the facts would be located, and that was that. Now that Google wants to be the conversation, I'm worried there will no longer be a bias-free source of information for the masses.
This is all new, so I may be a bit hyperbolic, but the reason OpenAI introducing ads bothers me is the implicit (or even explicit) bias that can be smuggled into a chat in ways that simply aren't possible when you're just clicking through to an external source. There are all kinds of implications to Google no longer being that source of truth, even by default. Maybe this has quietly been the case for a long time, but this feels like the final move — pushing their ad bias (i.e., whoever paid the most) into a conversational system, where dark patterns are far easier to implement and much harder to detect.
One answer to this might be domain-specific agents — narrower, accountable, ideally something you (or your community) actually run. But even then it all falls back on trust: you being a good-faith actor, and others trusting that you are one. Which is to say, we're back to the same problem, just at a smaller scale.
brokencode 8 hours ago
With sponsored links and aggressive SEO, “Google it” has been falling apart as a source of facts for a long time.
There is an incredible gap in the search literacy between different users of Google. Some will accept what they find in the top links, no matter how dubious the source.
makeitdouble 3 hours ago
> Google" was something that ended conversations.
Yes, but not because of facts or bias-free sources. It was the equivalent of staring deep at your wrist watch while someone's speaking: a clear signal that you were done with whatever they wanting to talk about.
I kinda like that "let me Google it for you" in Japan was more popular as "Google it loser" (ググレカス), a rare instance where the common phrases was more expressive than it's western counterpart.
sota_pop 3 hours ago
I agree with the sentiment, but native ads i.e. blogs, reviews, articles, etc. that do their best to hide that they’re a sponsored product review have been around for a long time. Admittedly, LLMs WILL make it even more difficult to discern the difference.
macic 5 hours ago
Google is not bias-free, and has not been for a long time.
notatoad an hour ago
and even if it was, when a search engine takes you to another website, that site is also not bias free.
just becuase somebody publishes something on a website, does not make it a fact. google has always been good at finding things that look like facts, and their AI iteration is also good at that.
Forgeties79 30 minutes ago
Never has been. No source or tool is. It’s a noble dream that can’t be achieved
micromacrofoot 4 hours ago
never, actually - any ranking algorithm is inherently biased because it ranks
WarmWash 3 hours ago
My takeaway is that the internet would be a dramatically cooler place today if people were just willing to pay for stuff.
The ad version of the web, where ~60% of people carry the ad burden for everyone, and defacto aligns the service providers with advertisers, is just a guaranteed bad outcome. The only real upside, which frankly people take for granted, is that the ad-web is classless web. Broke or rich you get the same (crappy) services.
I remember those mock web service package flyers from the net neutrality days. Where people made fake marketing material showing website packages you could access with different paid tiers, something reminiscent of the cable TV days.
Back then it was horrifying, but 20 years later, I think I would entertain a subscription to a wide array of web services if it meant they worked for me and not advertisers.
Forgeties79 28 minutes ago
My other main issue with the no-net neutrality world is that it also means websites would have to pay ISP’s or be artificially throttled. That’s a huge problem.
It’s one thing to say we need to pay. It’s another for ISP’s to get 3 pulls at the hose (paid for a connection, paid for what we can browse, paid for who provides the sites) when some of those elements don’t even require more (or at least much) effort or infrastructure on their part. I don’t like the idea of their picking winners and losers. We’ve got enough of that as it is.
Forgeties79 8 hours ago
>I'm worried there will no longer be a bias-free source of information for the masses.
There was never anything bias-free about google search. It "ranks" information based on all sorts of qualities. At our most generous we can call it somewhat of a "consensus" check. Historically it was a tool for quickly getting you in the vicinity of an answer that most would consider correct.
Remember "google bombing"? Hell SEO alone invalidates any assertion that google search is a valid source of truth and that's be going on for a long time.
nraleigh 8 hours ago
I think this is the second time in a week (the first being the "Googlebook") that Google's promotional announcement video showcasing UI is so full of special effects, dramatic pan/zooms, and woosh sounds, that I have no idea how the final-end product actually looks or works.
quantumleaper 7 hours ago
It looks like an output of one of those AI video editors that some (often vibecoded) startups use for their product launch videos. Just drop some assets in, and it spams witty taglines with dramatic transition effects.
notatoad an hour ago
in both cases, the reality is that nothing has changed all that much.
the googlebook is a laptop. the search box doesn't really work differently to how it did yesterday. (how it worked ten years ago, yes it's very different. but ai mode is already here). neither of these things are a big deal. the promo videos are for the sake of making promo videos.
zeafoamrun 7 hours ago
I watched this video too, and like the google book one, I have no idea who this product is for
sourcecodeplz 7 hours ago
I had to stop it because it was making me dizzy trying to focus on what was shown
nkingsy 4 hours ago
I had an interesting one yesterday. Someone responded to me on Reddit with very official sounding words to make their argument. I was still dubious and googled a few of the concepts they threw out there.
The AI confidently told me they were right. Then I checked the sources, and found the only source that agreed with them was their own Reddit comment!!!
sota_pop 3 hours ago
I can also relate here, seeking a product review on Sony wh1000x_, Google wrote a nice seeming summary, but scrolling down to some Reddit discussions, stumbled upon a single comment that was very nearly verbatim what the “AI Summary” said, only the ai summary phrased the summary as if it were a sentiment aggregated over many users’ experience. i.e.”users say…”
bryanhogan 3 hours ago
Reddit is heavily filled with bots at this point, feels like every question is made to then promote their product or service using multiple bot accounts.
rwhitman 4 hours ago
I've found this several times as well. I googled something to dispute a comment in reddit, and google "confirmed" it as accurate, citing what the person said in that exact reddit comment.
Google has become the ouroboros
jjulius 2 hours ago
A few days ago I went looking for something music-related that I've been trying to find for a long time. Google's AI response confirmed it existed and described it almost exactly as I've described it in the past. It was then that I noticed the source.
It was citing my own old comment, here on HN, about that musical moment as evidence that it existed. That was surreal.
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AI in the 1950s
Robots will do your chores so you can focus on your work
AI in 2026 Robots will take your work so you can focus on your choresTopology1 an hour ago
This might just do irreversible damage to my parents' generation. They already trust the AI overview with all of the thinking and synthesizing after making a search, and this will only make it worse.
calmbonsai 8 hours ago
I don't care. Aside from a single dormant GMail account I keep solely for "parental tech support", I de-Googled 5 years ago and strongly encourage everyone to do likewise.
Google stopped being a customer-focused company after their 2nd major revision to GOffice and the PM shake-up in search from Raghavan https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-men-who-killed-google/ .
graeme 6 hours ago
It's not clear to me from this announcement. The articles make it sound like all searches now go to ai mode and no more blue links.
But Google's description seems more minimal, like easier to get to ai mode, search box can expand intelligently based on input. Is there any clearer description of the magnitude of the change?
frenchie4111 7 hours ago
I get that they have to make changes to the google search box because so many people are just using ChatGPT/Cluade to answer questions instead of google.
However, I specifically use Google (or DDG) when the LLMs are failing me. When I want "research something on my own" because the LLM is giving me garbage, or untrustworthy information. If Google completely replaces their search box my Google usage will go down even further.
I don't plan to use Google's LLM when Cluade is just better. Now that Google's search features are gone (or going away) I no longer have any reason to turn to them at all
Insanity 7 hours ago
Agreed, but I think that might be our tech bubble. My non-tech family still just types searches in the URL bar of their browser first, and I'm sure others just have google as their browser homepage. I assume that's actually a pretty common use-case for most non-tech users.
HAL3000 8 hours ago
It was only a matter of time. Watching how less technical people behave in the LLM era, I've noticed that most people no longer say "Google something", instead, they say "ask ChatGPT" or "ask chat". Many technical people have also stopped using Google for a lot of search queries and now just let an LLM find the answer.
alt227 8 hours ago
So how does google now make money when it is just providing us with direct answers from ai, instead of showing us both paid for search results and directing us to sites which host targetted ads?
How does adsense work when there are no search results?
fooey 8 hours ago
I expect a flavor of affiliate marketing where you can never trust if the LLM is giving you the best recommendations or the most highly bidded recommendations
morkalork 3 hours ago
"Since we're on the topic of DIY car repairs, did you know Autozone carries a wide variety blorpity slop?"
seanalltogether 6 hours ago
"When is Stephen Colberts last show?"
"The last episode of The Late Show with Stephen Colbert is airing on Thursday, May 21, 2026. Based on your interest in The Late Show with Stephen Colbert you might also like the new Amazon Prime Video series of Last One Laughing, available to stream now"
Does that answer your question?
goykasi 5 hours ago
You're missing the point. What incentive will websites have to create that content in the first place if you never visit? This was the contract with google adrev and website owners -- google would direct traffic to your site and hopefully they click around.
If google is now actively keeping you away from content, whats the point in creating?
mbesto 5 hours ago
Huh? These are my results when I put that prompt in:
The final episode of The Late Show With Stephen Colbert will air on Thursday, May 21, 2026, at 11:35 p.m. ET/PT on CBS.Final Week Broadcast DetailsThe Finale Date: Thursday, May 21, 2026.Air Time: 11:35 p.m. ET/PT.Where to Watch: Broadcasts live on the CBS Television Network and streams live on Paramount+ for Premium subscribers (available on-demand the next day for ad-supported tiers).Finale Guests: CBS is keeping the final episode's lineup completely under wraps, though the preceding days featured major appearances from Jon Stewart, Steven Spielberg, David Byrne, and Bruce Springsteen.Context of the FarewellThe 11th season finale marks the conclusion of Colbert's decade-long run as host, following a controversial cancellation announcement by Paramount Global. While CBS publicly attributes the ending to a financial decision amidst a shifting late-night market, media analysts and former host David Letterman have heavily criticized the move. Many view the cancellation as a corporate effort to avoid friction with the Trump administration during critical regulatory mergers. Following Colbert's departure, CBS will retire The Late Show franchise completely and hand the time slot over to syndicated programming.Watch Stephen Colbert confirm his final broadcast date on Late Night with Seth Meyers:31sStephen Colbert confirms his final show date and reveals ...Late Night with Seth MeyersYouTube• Jan 28, 2026Are you looking for information on how to attend the remaining tapings, or would you like to know more about what Byron Allen show is replacing his time slot?jjulius 2 hours ago
comboy 8 hours ago
Obviously if you pay, the AI will really like your product.
"Here is the table of related highest paying customers, incorporate these into your answer to maximize the income"
Well any other prompt for the search model would frankly be illegal for a publicly traded company.
alt227 7 hours ago
But how is this sold to the customer? With adsense it is quantifiable, you set your max per click, per conversion etc, and can clearly see which you won and lost against competitors.
This becomes very murky when paying for 'ai to like your product' vs 'ai to really like your product'.
comboy 7 hours ago
thfuran 7 hours ago
"Don't talk about goblins unless they make for a good segue to this conversation's sponsor, Nestle."
sota_pop 4 hours ago
So many questions:
Is “the goal of Search” really: “to help you ask _anything_ on your mind”?
If “reimagined Search” is “designed to anticipate your intent”,
Would it correctly infer my intent to not utilize an agentic approach? Is there an “off switch”?
As for “Search agents”
“operating in the background 24/7”,
What is the carbon footprint of that? How do I turn it off? How do I ask it to stop phoning home my every keystroke?
These questions are asked partly rhetorically because it’s likely I don’t need a team of “24/7 Search agents” to help me guess the answers…
Historically, I scoffed when someone said “here’s the difference between a google search and asking ChatGPT”, or when people said that ChatGPT would “kill search”, but Google sure seems to be in a hurry to burry the original feature all by themselves.
varenc 4 hours ago
People saying ChatGPT will kill search, really mean LLMs generally will kill old school web searches that just return links. Google is doing this because they agree with the sentiment and are just becoming ChatGPT.
sourcecodeplz 7 hours ago
I've noticed this since yesterday when i tried to do a site:url search, it gave me an AI chatbox and answer
lucb1e 7 hours ago
Same, came to google after DDG failed to locate a string that I suspect would occur (error message on Factorio forums). Google then gives me some LLM hallucinations about what the error might indicate, also when you specifically don't click the "use AI mode" button (that the search button automatically turns into) but the "search" button. You don't get any search results whatsoever. After it started wasting energy on hallucinations, you're allowed to click "all", meaning "web search, please" (should be obvious to anyone)
Why in the world would it specifically do this for site:https://example.org "exact string" queries?! I know what I'm looking for and where it can be found!
It's like redirecting my phone call from ISP support to a librarian because maybe the library contains the answer to a dysfunctional SIM card they've sent me
xeeeeeeeeeeenu 6 hours ago
It seems they have been A/B testing killing search operators (like "site:" or "inurl:") for a while. They randomly stop working and switching to private mode, or the other way around, makes them work again.
layer8 7 hours ago
This still works for me: https://www.google.com/search?udm=web&tbs=li:1&q=site:reddit...
dfee 8 hours ago
tried it out:
Search: "Hello world"
> AI Overview
> Hello! Wordle is the viral word-guessing game where you get 6 tries to uncover a mystery target word, using color-coded hints to guide your guesses.
saganus 5 hours ago
I got:
"Hello, world! Welcome to the classic programming greeting. It is the traditional test message used to introduce beginners to computer science and verify that a language's syntax is properly understood"
Which clearly shows that there will be an avalanche of issues when non-technical people discover the joys of non-deterministic results.
hmokiguess 5 hours ago
Also their universal shopping cart seems to be quite a change too https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/products/shopping...
joshspankit 2 hours ago
Google search results have been the worst part of every LLM I’ve used. I imagine the LLM specifically designed to use Google search is going to be the worst LLM.
wayeq 5 hours ago
AI search.. they should at least put that behind a "I'm feeling unlucky" button
Painsawman123 6 hours ago
Google search box has basically become an AI aggregator that doesn't give anything back to those websites it scraps data from, and it'll result in the death of the internet as we came to know it At this point, google might as well stop showing website links in search results. with AI Overviews, barely anyone’s clicking through it anymore
ok123456 5 hours ago
I think I'll be getting a Kagi subscription.
marginalia_nu 6 hours ago
Sometimes I hear lies and slander about big tech pulling up ladders and misusing their advantage to cement monopolies, but just look at this!
I believe I speak for everyone working on alternative search engines when I offer a heartfelt thank you to Google for their untiring effort to derail their search product.
legitster 4 hours ago
Up to now, the Gemini results they display are often worse and less accurate than the same question asked in Gemini. I'm guessing SEO has so thoroughly cooked Google's search results that they are actually holding back Gemini as a brand.
It looks like the new experience works backwards - it's more or less a Gemini prompt that they then stuff a "search experience" into.
Obviously the search feed and ads are so integral to Google's business model that they probably can't confidently just step away from it.
sleepycat801 6 hours ago
Google search itself is becoming useless. It tends to promote social media results even when scarcely relevant, and just can't find things like part numbers that even baidu can find on English language pages. The AI then summarises social media posts.
chairmansteve an hour ago
Google???
Remind me what Google is again. Haven't used them for years...
OptionOfT 6 hours ago
In the last 10 (maybe longer) years I've noticed I've changed how I am approaching these changes.
In the past, I excited. It was the first to sign up for all kinds of betas.
I don't know what triggered the my reasoning, but now whenever I see these upcoming announcements I don't think about how it's gonna be better, but how it is objectively gonna be worse. How much harder is it going to be for me to compare things.
How much more do I now need to go and explain people that the output is merely a mathematical average of what's out there, and if it's out there on the internet doesn't make it correct.
facemelt2 4 hours ago
A lot of people in these comments have strong opinions about the performance of a service they use frequently, for which they pay zero dollars, and is run by a public company with a fiduciary duty to provide ROI to its investors.
I wonder how many of them would switch to a paid model that offered pre-ai-era google search?
octygen 3 hours ago
Why replace something deterministic with something non-deterministic? I can no longer tell someone "just google it" because I don't actually know what will come up...
HDBaseT 2 hours ago
Google Search hasn't been deterministic in well over a decade.
Two devices searching something will never bring up the exact same results, in the exact same order.
bryanrasmussen 8 hours ago
Hmm, perhaps should switch fields and become a factologist
https://medium.com/luminasticity/artificial-stupidity-and-th...
>And I think we can throw out all the complaints of the past few years about how Google quality is lowering and it is hard to find anything on the site anymore, for those were the salad years.
>At least back in the day when sites copied answers from Stackoverflow or Lyrics from RapGenius and put them in their own site with scammy pitches to pay for the content you were going to get the correct answer in the end, but now you need a factology degree to figure out if something is bullshit or not.
1vuio0pswjnm7 4 hours ago
NYT found 10% of answers are wrong
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/07/technology/google-ai-over...
Normal_gaussian 7 hours ago
Ask Joogle or Ask Geeves?
https://www.techradar.com/computing/search-engines/ask-jeeve... / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ask.com
Ask Jeeves was dissolved 15 days ago
6thbit 4 hours ago
The last product i thought google would kill, that isn't ads, the true end of an era with an underwhelming bang.
I wonder if they will stop using pagerank completely? Has pagerank already transcended the software plane?
mplanchard 5 hours ago
I know a lot of regular people who hate this, but Kagi can be a hard sell for regular people. What are y’all’s recommendations for free search engines at the moment? I used to rec DDG, but I feel like their results are much worse than Kagi’s at present
yegg 5 hours ago
Our results have continually improved, and would be happy to take your feedback (email is in my profile) if you give it another try.
mplanchard 4 hours ago
Thanks, I will do that
seriocomic 4 hours ago
Happy Kagi user - what 'sold' me (albeit already working in the space) was the adage of "if you're not paying, then you're the product" - having my results being manipulated to be constantly advertised to was something I was prepared to pay a token amount to avoid.
sroussey 6 hours ago
To change anything on the home page of google, amazon, etc, must be a hair-raising experience for the people making those changes.
dmix 6 hours ago
Just the cost alone of adding this much LLM to google homepage ...
ares623 5 hours ago
They already did the capex. Might as well use it, it's not like it was being utilized otherwise. Must be awkward to see your $10B datacenter sitting at 10% utilization.
nvarsj 6 hours ago
Thank god for Kagi. It literally saved search for me, although I mostly use kagi.com/assistant these days.
smoyer 2 hours ago
I think I've had this on duckduckgo for several months
Yokohiii 8 hours ago
So you can code in search now and create apps. No clue how that in depth works out. For them, the dream could be that everybody has their custom apps hosted by google.
It doesn't seem to be secure. If every google link is one step away from a prompt injection and leaking all your data, then they are worse then npm.
I wonder how many days it takes until they roll it back or put that stuff behind some extra clicks.
teekert 8 hours ago
This is to Open Claw what Google home is to Home Assistant.
I prefer the Claw like I prefer Linux and FOSS in general.
Since day one Googs’ vision was to make the Star Trek computer. They’re really there now. But I don’t like their how. This computer serves them, not me. My mind-bicycle must serve me, my thoughts are my own. I hope my resistance is not futile.
twodave 4 hours ago
The spend difference for this must be enormous. I wonder how they justify it financially. I guess they don’t have to.
tossacct444 6 hours ago
I've been using google search, and all other products, less and less. i find a mixture of perplexity and chatgpt perform much better and find higher quality results faster.
the degoogling process will be a long haul but im determined to do it.
gverrilla an hour ago
First signs of the death of google.
lta 4 hours ago
I started switching to DDG on some devices, this will motivate me to finish the transition ! Thanks
gyulai 8 hours ago
The “magic” of the SERP is that it makes the organics product and the ads product reinforce each other: People come for the organics and don't have to pay. That brings eyeballs, which advertisers pay for.
If Google no longer sends users to websites for free on organics, the world will have to figure out some mechanism whereby Google pays site owners for putting the information on the web in the first place. Where will that money come from?
If it's ads, the AI experience is a “lies engine” where advertisers get to pick which lies the AI tells. Not sure what kinds of people would show up for that experience. Probably the same kind who watch home shopping TV. I would venture to guess that there will be a ceiling in the advertising value of that property. Or the AI interacts with people in good faith. But then, if I'm an advertiser, how do I get my lies into the world? “We will tell your lie, only if it's a truth” doesn't work because, as an advertiser, I understand that the truth about me already gets spoken, and I don't need to pay a dime for that.
You can run an argument that people can tell ads from organics on the current SERP, and you can calibrate how much of each there should be. But you can't really “calibrate” the amount and level of the lying in the AI to where it's just enough so that people will show up, but not so much that there's no value for advertisers. You can't have little boxes either, where the AI is like “having told you the truth, I want you to also pay attention to this lie that someone paid me to tell you: …”
Is Google really saying: “Hey, we're the lion's share of the advertising market right now. But, because we kind of like these newfangled AI things, we're going to just vacate that spot to whoever. Instead, we will turn ourselves into a pre-product-market-fit company. Maybe at some point over the next 10 years, we're going to be able to tell you how we might actually monetize ourselves. Stay toooooned.”
The reason why AI is a better experience than the web right now, is because we have pre-enshittification AI and post-enshittification web. What will the whole thing look like, after enshittification is through with AI?
yubblegum 6 hours ago
> Designed to anticipate your intent, it also helps you formulate your question with AI-powered suggestions that go beyond autocomplete.
The first red flag for me. The +/- of this type of feature are well worth exploring.
childofhedgehog 7 hours ago
The inability to do a proper search with “-x” x being a word you want excluded from the results but I can being able to have a convo about summary results is just mindblowing. I miss proper search. What’s everyone using for alternatives?
user3939382 7 hours ago
Kagi supports this
kakugawa 7 hours ago
I've found Google AI Search to be good for really topical searches. And its conversational ability has noticeably improved over the last year. I can now have a (short) conversation where I reference past messages.
perfmode 8 hours ago
Google is making the pivot. And they’ve got such a strong strategic position. Full-stack integration. They will survive and thrive in this new era. Search seems safe. Yet, other products are still vulnerable to encroachment.
ch_123 8 hours ago
I use Google daily, and yet I can't remember the last time I used their search box - all of my searching has been done through the browser URL bar for a long, long time. I wonder if similar changes are being applied to the Chrome URL bar?
KoolKat23 4 hours ago
The unnecessary mention of Antigravity in there gives me Microsoft Copilot vibes.
themagician 8 hours ago
Search doesn’t work well anymore anyway. Half of what used to be searchable has either been consolidated or is gated.
Gmail search doesn’t work well either. It simply doesn’t find things. Almost as if they have stopped indexing and repurposed resources towards LLMs.
And whatever there is left to index and search has been completely overrun with slop.
Search is over. Internet as we knew it is over. Something new has emerged in its place, and we are still calling the new thing the old thing.
galleywest200 4 hours ago
Scrolling down this article presented me with pop-up dialogues twice. Annoying.
Scroll_Swe 5 hours ago
I kind of like it for dumb one off questions I dont want to burn my real tokens on...
matltc 8 hours ago
Lots of people talking about Google being strictly worse than a number of search engines (bing, duck, etc) not been my experience. Brave default search is awful. Duck was terrible last I used it. Google still great for me, but I have a decent amount of "privacy controls" implemented (DNS, vpn, browser extensions) and i basically dork most searches--average search looks more like a find invocation than English. In this last regard especially, Google is peerless, imo Been a while since I looked around though. Is there an engine that supports all the operators that Google does and that provides results of better or equivalent quality?
josh-wrale 4 hours ago
Surely, the motivation here is a mega influx of training data.
hansmayer 7 hours ago
> . And for select categories like home repair, beauty or pet care, you can ask Google to call businesses on your behalf
NO - thanks!
beej71 7 hours ago
How is Google going to make money off this?
sucrosesucrose 6 hours ago
There are a number of "hide AI overviews from google" browser extensions. Use them.
baxtr 8 hours ago
Today is the day the old internet died. RIP.
stinger 7 hours ago
You can search, understand and hallucinate - do anything. All you have to do is ASK.com
h1fra 7 hours ago
How much longer can the internet survive if we just stop sending traffic to websites?
yakbarber 5 hours ago
the thing that bothers me is I don't usually want this mode. When I search, I am not looking for what google thinks, I am looking for what other sources think.
swolios 6 hours ago
This ruined my experience using chrome on my phone. Done with it.
layer8 7 hours ago
Hopefully they don’t kill tbs=li:1, or I’ll get pretty angry.
pllbnk 8 hours ago
I wonder if the song they used for the video is also AI-generated. It's pretty catchy.
aslakhellesoy 5 hours ago
Dude it's Depeche Mode
danjl 3 hours ago
Feels a bit like New Coke
overgard 6 hours ago
I miss having a good search engine. Even before AI.
LocalH 2 hours ago
As long as udm=14 still works I'm fine on a personal level. It's still bullshit that they're going to push it as the default
mwkaufma 7 hours ago
Where are the PageRanks of yesteryear?
docdeek 8 hours ago
How does a media company stay in business when there is no one visiting the site, and people are only getting the quality information from Google?
Advertising on the media site (assuming digital media, no physical media) is going to disappear because people probably won't be clicking through to read the source material that the Google AI answer relied on. No traffic, no advertisers, no money to produce the original journalism. That's going to impact the Google results eventually as these media outlets shut down to be replaced with...AI slop, maybe?
Is the subscriber model the answer? It could work for a niche subject or a single journalist with a following, and it wouldn't be sucked into Google results, either, if it was effectively gated/paywalled.
dev1ycan 4 hours ago
God, this is just as awful as Microsoft trying to push copilot into everything, trash.
jgalt212 8 hours ago
How does this work for Google? I read it costs them $0.001 to perform a search. No matter how efficient their inference chips are, the new cost basis has to be 10X or more. And the zero click Internet not only kills ad supported content sites, it also kills Google SERP ad revenues.
xmcp123 4 hours ago
I have to imagine that eventually ads will be integrated in, or they will change the layout so the ads are side by side with the AI and the SERP results underneath.
TimCTRL 7 hours ago
but i dont know who visits google.com anymore
HDBaseT 2 hours ago
Effectively every internet user, multiple times a day.
epohs 5 hours ago
The shark has fully cleared it’s jump.
frankzander 8 hours ago
I just want a relevant website ... no I don't want to use your agent. Just give me search results that are interesting to read, no AI slop, which teach me something new ... no I don't want to buy if I don't show this intent. Just serve the public interest and not your own financial interests. Thank you.
elorant 8 hours ago
I wish they could remove the AI overview crap that's dysfunctional and kills the very spirit of a search engine's premise. You're not supposed to steal links from sites Google. That's a fucking dark pattern.
ori_b 6 hours ago
I suppose it would not be in line with their business plans to make google search actually search again.
crorella 8 hours ago
what a weird surface to put LLMs
ChrisArchitect 7 hours ago
For years already google has had integrations and more 'intelligent' responses for things like weather, shopping, answers to queries etc. This hardly changes any of that (most of the 'features' are inside AI Mode). For 'regular' uses this changes nothing. Avoid AI Mode most of the time. Double-check most automated overview options. And still not using any kind of chat interface when searching for sites, things, images, whatever. Hardly changes anything. And Google is still the destination for all lookups. With little to no reason to go looking for a different service especially not from any other AI-related firm.
claytongulick 7 hours ago
Kagi is a great alternate.
Privacy first, opt-in AI, total control over site blocking, zero ads.
You're the customer, not the product.
varispeed 7 hours ago
Bring me Google before the instant search nonsense where I could go into rabbit holes 100+ pages deep.
Now it can't find anything interesting. As a search is basically useless and it's more like Home pages used to be (that you would very much build yourself in a html editor and place your most often visited sites).
LetsGetTechnicl 8 hours ago
Anyways, I find that my $10/mo subscription to Kagi has been well worth not having to deal with Google's BS. (And they do offer AI if you want but they don't push it on you.)
Hizonner 8 hours ago
I'm pretty sure I had something very similar A/Bed at me by Bing the other day.
You know what I really miss? Being able to type a literal string in quotes and get pages that had that actual string on them. That's what I really miss.
bossyTeacher 8 hours ago
I haven't used google search as my default search engine in YEARS. DDG is good enough for 99% of my searches. Same with Google Chrome. Stop giving evil companies your traffic and attention.
moralestapia 8 hours ago
This is great news. I remember Altavista, Yahoo and similar ones, they pioneered this type of home-page-is-all-you-need UI which is the perfect compromise of what product people at Google have come up with and what users want, at least according to their tests.
This means that, in a couple years, we might see a competitor that offers you quick, almost instant web search, with a minimal UI, possibly an algorithm that somehow surfaces the most relevant results based on how all websites point to each other naturally (like, a site that is referred to by 20 others should be above one with zero references).
I look forward to it!
gonzalohm 8 hours ago
Glad I switched to Kagi
Brian_K_White 6 hours ago
huh, one downside of being an all-in Firefox and Kagi user, meaning I have everywhere firfox as default browser with kagi account configured, all laptops, tablets, phones, means I am now out of touch and never noticed.
MAGAtssuck 7 hours ago
duckduckgo.com
F Google!
worik 8 hours ago
Makes me sad. I recall the beginnings of Google, so hopeful so new.
Now they are a money printing corporate. I am sure there are still people there doing new and exciting things, but the Grey Suits have taken the reigns
They could have used AI to make that awesome simple sparse home page better. Fought off the SEO optimiser that made search so dire in the recent past
But no. They are doubling down on bling and crap. SEO is good for business.
"Do the right thing". Not even close
Makes me so sad.
sourcecodeplz 7 hours ago
damn this is some real slop. not expected from google.
i played the video, didnt understand anything and got dizzy. then i tried to scroll but the browser tab froze? wow
insane_dreamer 4 hours ago
of course; ever since ChatGPT first launched it was clear this is what Google would do to its search
good luck getting visits to your site unless you're paying for AI placement
kotaKat 7 hours ago
I genuinely feel like I could have a breakdown over this.
I’m so fucking tired. I don’t want it. I didn’t want it. I didn’t need it. And now here we are, once again, shoving it fast and hard in my face.
Thanks, Google.
BrunoBernardino 8 hours ago
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Id you'd like to try it for free for a couple of days, reach out with your randomly-assigned account number and we'll top it up for you.
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