Italy's Bending Spoons, Owner of AOL and Vimeo, Files for Nasdaq IPO (reuters.com)

67 points by mmarian 2 hours ago

Zigurd 30 minutes ago

I'm old enough to have been acquired by Computer Associates at a company that acquired my company. CA's business model was to buy companies and then fold their products into an omnibus license, all of their customers, including the ones they just acquired, becoming involuntary licensees whatever the cat dragged in this quarter.

It turns out a lot of corporate IT has no idea how to switch vendors in case a product they use gets acquired by a company with this business model.

Maxious 19 minutes ago

The number of corporate IT departments got caught when VMWare licencing shifted from Dell EMC to Broadcom https://www.techradar.com/pro/broadcom-has-allegedly-hiked-v...

Zigurd 14 minutes ago

For context, Broadcom bought CA.

k310 an hour ago

IMO, they buy companies, lay off en masse and sell the now sunsetted products.

Reminiscent of "Chainsaw" Al Dunlap, but he gutted and then flipped whole companies.

I think of them as the bakery outlet store that sells only stale goods.

flaviolivolsi a few seconds ago

Yep. They fucked up Komoot so badly that I'm building my own cycling app

w4der an hour ago

They also have a very intense workplace culture, I had a manager who was part of Evernote while their site was being laid off by Bending Spoons, and he heard some wild stories, they pay above average for a European tech company (but with geo-fenced brackets), crunch a ton and then crash out at a big new year's party were they fly all their teams to some resort, among other things.

ElProlactin 7 minutes ago

New Year's party with your coworkers at a resort sounds like hell. Or a script for a Jonah Hill movie.

orsorna an hour ago

Wow sounds very family friendly!

cucumber3732842 18 minutes ago

frevib an hour ago

This guy dubbed it “get Komooted”, as they pulled the same trick for used-to-be-great cycling app Komoot: https://bikepacking.com/plog/when-we-get-komooted/

The app quality almost immediately went down the drain after the acquisition by Bending Spoons.

doctorpangloss 23 minutes ago

With LLMs, I feel like they'll have the last laugh.

epolanski 16 minutes ago

Warren Buffett used to do the same for decades, in fact this is how he came to control Berkshire Hathaway which he calls his worst investment, as it wasn't rational and merely driven by ego.

He wanted to take a controlling share of the company and then sell it for pieces so he started to buy increasing stakes in it.

When Berkshire management understood Buffett's plan they decided to stop him to not let him cannibalize and kill the company, and they offered to buy back his shares for 11$ a share which he accepted as it would've been a 2x return on his investment in a very short time span.

But then they made the critical mistake of low balling him by 1$ per share when it came to sign the documents, and he got so much emotional that he went and bought the entire company to prove a point and fire the management.

It was not a good idea and he would not make money on that acquisition, so after selling off the assets he decided to make it the holding for its other investments.

konfusinomicon an hour ago

I guess somebody out there has gotta make the croutons

alephnerd an hour ago

It's the circle of life - all businesses reach a point where they don't have significant growth potential or became a "keep the lights on operation" and their investors and founders wish to exit and cash out in order to invest in greener pastures.

That's where businesses like Bending Spoons, Red Ventures, and IAC come in for digital media.

mmarian an hour ago

I'm often thinking about building a better Meetup, it's so expensive for organizers these days. But then I acknowledge the network effects and I give up. And they own Eventbrite too! Savvy people.

burkaman an hour ago

I see a lot of people using https://luma.com/. I'm sure it's not as big as Meetup but it does have a decent community of users, and you can set up pretty much anything with their free plan.

baggachipz 9 minutes ago

I had a good giggle when I opened their homepage and it looks exactly like the Performative-UI library[1] currently in the #1 spot.

mmarian an hour ago

Luma doesn't do discoverability well unfortunately. Also very tech centric.

burkaman an hour ago

alephnerd an hour ago

At least in the Bay, Luma and Partiful are much bigger than Meetup now.

mmarian an hour ago

bsimpson 38 minutes ago

Partiful feels like it has replaced Facebook Events, Meetup, and the other formerly-popular hubs for in-person event planning.

mmarian 28 minutes ago

Hmm, didn't know of Partiful. Quick look at landing page, seems more geared to parties and more social media-y? Meetup's event listing was good as it was; well, before they started charging for you to even see who's attending.

baron816 an hour ago

Isn’t this just Luma?

mmarian an hour ago

See reply I just made in other thread.

elffjs 2 hours ago

Per Wikipedia, Bending Spoons owns: AOL, Brightcove, Eventbrite, Evernote, Harvest, Issuu, Komoot, Meetup, MileIQ, Remini, StreamYard, Tractive, Vimeo, and WeTransfer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bending_Spoons

postalcoder an hour ago

You missed filmic. Wow. So these people are the reason why Filmic went overnight from one of my favorite iOS apps to something for the trash heap.

my knee jerk reaction is to throw shade at the ppl operating the company but, upon second thought, there's an obvious pattern of them relieving the company from people who knew less how to run (and sustain) it. I haven't used evernote in almost a decade but it actually seems.. fine? I stopped using it when the company started selling merch as a latch ditch effort to make money.

fckgw an hour ago

They're basically the retirement home for once-good apps and services who still serve a dwindling core audience but are not longer growing or even a real contender in their field.

BonoboIO 23 minutes ago

At least Evernote was saved by Bending Spoons. At one point, even Evernote was getting roughly a third of its monthly revenue from merchandise, which is pretty wild for a paperless note-taking app and a decent sign that the core business was already in bad shape. For the rest, though, they seem very good at squeezing hard whatever is left.

raphman 2 hours ago

> "Founded in 2013, Bending Spoons reported a net income of $27.5 million on revenue of $601 million for the three months ended March 31, compared to a net loss of $112.2 million on revenue of $259 million a year earlier. A large chunk of its revenue comes from recurring subscriptions, providing a more predictable stream of income."

Gergely Orosz did an interview with them in 2024:

https://newsletter.pragmaticengineer.com/p/twisting-the-rule...

stefan_ 37 minutes ago

Clever, shitty numbers and they decide to IPO at the peak of the "actually SaaS is worthless" hype. I wish them the worst, considering their business model.

csomar 37 minutes ago

So roughly $100m/year profit(edit). They are looking for a 20Bn valuation but interest rates are at 5%? How does any of this make any sense? That or we are in a real bubble.

postalcoder 25 minutes ago

You're mixing up the numbers. Their annual run rate is $2.4 billion. Revenue grew 140% YoY. That's an 8x sales multiple on good growth. The valuation is not egregious.

csomar 6 minutes ago

foresterre an hour ago

Their strategy always was "buy company" and "instantly lay off about everyone" to save costs and rapidly increase subscription pricing (1).

So far they've been relatively soft (for their doing) on Komoot, which I too am most anxious off.

Bikepacking.com has a good read about Komoot; it was probably unsustainable in the long run before bending spoons took over anyways (2), yet I much rather had they stayed a sort of indie company driven by their passion. I will cancel my long standing Komoot subscription the day enshittification news breaks.

(1) https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2025/03/komoot-acquired-history-... (2) https://bikepacking.com/plog/when-we-get-komooted/

threetonesun an hour ago

You can imagine all of these moderately successful SAAS companies that see peak subscribers starting to fall off on top of legacy tech stacks and no will to make drastic steps to get back to growth and understand why they sell. I've never seen BS as specifically ruining companies (although they've certainly been known to jack up prices for the remaining subscribers) but it's not a good sign when they do buy something you use.

righthand 2 hours ago

Interesting, Vimeo sat under IAC for almost 20 years claiming it would go public, when it finally did it was eventually sold off to Bending Spoons not even 5 years in.

michelb 2 hours ago

While I'm not a huge fan of the Bending Spoons model, Vimeo sure got improved quickly.

muglug an hour ago

What exactly? From what I’ve heard, most of what was released in the months after the acquisition were features that were already in development/behind feature flags.

ChrisArchitect an hour ago

Some history from only the past year in discussions:

Bending Spoons acquires Vimeo for $1.38B

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45197302

AOL to be sold to Bending Spoons for $1.5B

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45749161

Bending Spoons Acquires Eventbrite

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46124673

Tell HN: Bending Spoons laid off almost everybody at Vimeo yesterday

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46707699

moralestapia an hour ago

It's still a big mystery to me how they were able to pull billion-dollar acquisitions while being one or two orders of magnitude lower in revenue.

>inb4 leverage

Yeah, I know leverage exists but still, you cannot go to a bank and ask them to help you acquire something 100x worth your cap.

adw an hour ago

Leverage. They’re essentially an 80s style junk bond LBO house.

lhoff 2 hours ago

They also own Komoot and I am anxiously awaiting the enshittification.

As of now my use cases still work and it certainly helped that I bought the lifetime all-world map package.

w4der an hour ago

It has already started, many features which you could previously access without an account are now locked behind a login screen.

kome an hour ago

IPOing just before an evident .com tech bubble is about to explode is courageous. Good luck to everyone.

That said, their business model seems fairly solid, and despite the naysayers, they improve things a bit on most of their acquisitions. So there might be some real value in what they do. Yet, the expected market valuation is way off. But worry not: market will fix that.

greggoB 28 minutes ago

> despite the naysayers, they improve things a bit on most of their acquisitions

There seem to be quite a few commenters stating the exact opposite, with concrete examples in hand (especially for Komoot). Do you have experience with any of the services they've bought, and can say how they've been improved?

fhdkweig a minute ago

Not the OP, but from a stock market perspective, improvement can mean "lay off workers, and raise subscription prices". Not good for the users, but good for the kinds of people who like reading news about IPOs.

riffraff 9 minutes ago

why is it courageous?

It seems the perfect time to do it while the market is still bubbly.

xnx 2 hours ago

But how will they make it about AI...?

raphman 2 hours ago

Hmm, assuming that the AI bubble might pop a little bit after the upcoming IPOs, maybe it's better not to call yourself an AI company then?

joxdosba an hour ago

That seems like a very odd assumption to make.

martin_drapeau an hour ago

20VC had an interview with them: https://www.thetwentyminutevc.com/luca-ferrari

I came in thinking they would be like PE and just put products on life support sucking all the recurring they can. But it seems they care and improve the products. I think that has merrit.

baobabKoodaa an hour ago

So first they fire all the staff and then they "care and improve the products"? Who? Who does that? They fired the staff, so who improves the product?

kryptiskt 43 minutes ago

They fire everybody and then they bring in way cheaper European developers.

greggoB 27 minutes ago