Mechanical Watch (2022) (ciechanow.ski)
479 points by razin 6 hours ago
fellerts 2 hours ago
This article inspired me to build an exploded view of a mechanical watch movement in real-life (2025): https://fellerts.no/projects/epoch.html
sdoering 2 hours ago
Were my father still alive I would pay you nearly anything for such a model. Or would totally be inspired to work on this for his next year's birthday (he would have had his 80th bd next year).
This made me smile and in remembering cry. Thanks a ton kind stranger. It was a lovely stroll down memroy lane. I still have a few pieces from his collection that are near and dear to my heart.
Quizzical4230 2 hours ago
Thank you for your post! It's only through yours I got to know about the posted article. Your efforts on the exploded view are mind blowing!
turzmo 5 hours ago
The author seems too humble to put a giant Patreon link in a popup (it's at the very bottom), but in case anyone wants to know how to support: https://www.patreon.com/ciechanowski/membership?vanity=ciech...
awongh 5 hours ago
As a teacher I understand how difficult it is to explain complex topics in a simple step by step way.
The site has some really impressive technical aspects, but the educational angle is the most rare and special! The simplicity of the language and explanations disguise how difficult this is to do.
This is the original use of the internet- giving away free knowledge to people, perfectly suited for the medium of a website.
aquova 4 hours ago
While I do agree, if the author is reading the comments one piece of feedback I have is the overuse of the phrase "In this article I will...". It's a bit of a pet peeve of mine, and they use a version of the phrase three times in the first four paragraphs.
utopcell 5 minutes ago
After looking at this enormous labor of love, is this really what you chose to comment about?
rainbowDolphin 2 hours ago
I find the convention whereby authors 'explicitly tell readers what they're going to do' a hallmark of good explanatory writing, so long as the writing is supposed to be explanatory and the author follows through.
So your comment got me to take a closer look, and yeah, the author could certainly cut "in this article" and "in this blog post" from the third and fourth paragraphs.
Otherwise, yeah, this is an excellent piece of work. Reminds of that ancient, short, black and white film from General Motors that artfully demonstrates how differentials work.
If the HN commentariat knows of similarly excellent educational work that uses intuitive visual to explain software concepts, please do share.
theappsecguy 2 hours ago
I'd rather read imperfect human writing than modern day AI slop. Seeing human writing "mistakes" like this is a breath of fresh air.
kazinator 6 minutes ago
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technothrasher 5 hours ago
I find there is something indescribably fascinating with mechanical timepieces. I'm more of a clock guy than a watch guy, though I've had plenty of watches apart, and the two disciplines merge in many places. I've learned so many new mechanical skills in my now six year journey to be able to repair these things, and to learn to repair them is to learn to make them, as you need to know how to fabricate every single piece in order to be able to repair any movement, thus why clock and watch repairers are called clockmakers and watchmakers.
serious_angel 5 hours ago
Related: https://jacobandco.com/timepieces
technothrasher 5 hours ago
Related I guess, but these celebrity "bling" watches are entirely the least interesting part of horology.
MSFT_Edging 4 hours ago
WillAdams 5 hours ago
gilleain 5 hours ago
I recently bought the book 'Watch Repair for Beginners' for reference (a project I slightly unwisely agreed to do).
It has some great diagrams, but obviously nothing on these interactive animations (er, naturally, since it is a book).
However the author (Harold C. Kelley) has descriptions for the diagrams similar to a maths proof - like "Warning lever W is raised in position to engage the pin P ... The unlocking lever U lifts the drop lever D ..." - not easy to follow, but maybe if you have the mechanism in front of you!
harrisi an hour ago
Probably my favorite thing about the author's posts is that it's all handwritten, vanilla code - as far as I can tell. It seems like all the HTML, CSS, and JS are just plain, standard, universal code. It's one of the few "advanced" sites that just works on an old iPhone 7, for example. So many modern sites that use modern frameworks just don't work anymore.
Also just a huge fan of using the existing infrastructure of browsers - even older ones - in effective ways. Browsers have been quite capable for awhile now.
haritha-j 3 hours ago
I think one of my favourite things about an automatic is that its design calls for it to be worn and not collected. If you collect them, then you'd either be wnding or shaking them when you actually want to wear them, so they aren't automatic. It forces you to wear, and therefore own, just the one, which is how it should be. I have a seiko 5 which i always wear except in the shower.
piltdownman 2 hours ago
Anyone with a few auto mechanicals will tend to be a 'luxury' watch collector and almost certainly have an auto-winder watchbox or similar solution. It gets way too finnicky to constantly reset crown based Chronos, nevermind something with wheel based control like an AirKing.
Those who collect manual-winders tend towards trench watches, marriage watches converted from pocket or 1950-69 era vintage Omegas and the like - as the Timex/Hamilton/Seagull re-issues hold little cachet to a collector. The glaring recent exception being the appalling SwatchxAP collab with the hand-wound version the SISTEM51 movement, bringing the worst aspects of both manual wind movements and the unservicable and ultimately disposable nature of contemporary swatch movements.
Esophagus4 2 hours ago
Any reason for not wearing yours in the shower? I wear mine pretty much all the time except sleep.
stilldavid an hour ago
I wear mine to sleep and that's where I get tremendous value out of it! I have small kids who are up one or more times overnight, and it's the first thing I check - is it midnight? Closer to 4am? Helps me make immediate decisions about how to handle the situation.
throw0101c 4 hours ago
As observed from a comment [1] in a previous discussion: in the first animation the time and date shown are actually correct (per your web browser) when it initially renders, though it does not increment as the seconds hand reaches 12.
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31261533#unv_31268444
alxgsv 5 hours ago
dang an hour ago
Thanks! Macroexpanded:
Mechanical Watch (2022) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38591084 - Dec 2023 (163 comments)
Mechanical Watch - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31261533 - May 2022 (413 comments)
wateralien 5 hours ago
Are we allowed to see it again?
dang an hour ago
Oh yes! Reposts are welcome after a year or so. This is in the FAQ: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html.
We particularly want new cohorts of users to get acquainted with the classics :)
When users (or mods) link to previous threads, the intention is simply to share other troves of comments for curiosity gratification purposes.
alxgsv 4 hours ago
Yes, why not. When I posted my comment, year wasn't in the title. I was very excited to see this, sent to my friend and he said to me that it's an old one. So I posted my comment to make people aware of that.
geerlingguy 5 hours ago
Yes, I remember the GPS post, but somehow missed this one the first go-round. I love how HN can resurface an old post deserving of a few re-posts.
StrLght 5 hours ago
I got really excited thinking it was a new post for a second :(
ahknight 4 hours ago
I love that there's not only the internals of a standard three-hand, but the automatic mechanism as well. If you're going pure mechanical, an automatic is the best way. As long as you actually move during the day the watch generally stays wound up (though a twist when you put it on is a good measure). There's a ton of great watches out there powered only by walking around, and it's fascinating to look at what they can do with that.
The mechanics of a six-hand are similar, using the mechanism that is described here for the date indicator.
Another fun device, though more from an EE POV, are the solar+radio/GPS versions of the same. Automatics can hold power for a few days and need walking around to wind. Solar needs light (any light, though sunlight is always best) and hold power for over a month. Many higher-end models can self-set over radio time or GPS signals as well.
When the world goes tits-up someday, both classes of watches will suddenly become essential, and are already essential for people who spend a good amount of time "unreachable" for work or pleasure.
maratc 3 hours ago
Casio Oceanus S100 is made of titanium, adjusts itself over the radio[0], understands 29th of February, sets itself on/off DST, never needs tinkering or battery change, and sells for a whooping $350. It's the watch you can set all your other watches to.
[0] Don't have radio coverage where you live? "There's an app for that" -- or several -- that simulate radio control signals.
GordonS 2 hours ago
Ooh, that is a nice quartz watch! Really good review here: https://www.peterferenczi.com/blog/2023/3/19/the-casio-ocean...
kqr 5 hours ago
I also recommend this demonstration from 1949, in that excellent style they used back then with large scale physical models and stop-motion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMW-QWPZEm0
arwineap an hour ago
I've been hyper fixated on mechanical watches this year, and I'm so happy to have this resource, it's clarified my gaps, and corrected multiple misunderstandings.
Very excited to get home and rebuild my keyless!
NoSalt 3 hours ago
I have LOVED the beauty of mechanical watches my entire life. About 15 years ago, I started a little savings account to purchase an Omega Speedmaster. I have long since past the amount needed to purchase that beautiful timepiece, but I now have a wife, child, and house. The money is still there, but I cannot seem to pull the trigger. My wife says she is entirely Ok with me doing this as we are comfortable money-wise, but the "dad" in me keeps saying "You might need that money for a rainy day."
dnemmers 3 hours ago
It might be worth purchasing one second hand, then most of the depreciation is already gone. If you need the money, you're likely to recoup most of it by re-selling.
NoSalt 2 hours ago
I have thought of this, but I would forever live in fear that I had been ripped off by a fake.
dionian 3 hours ago
Or buy a nice Swiss automatic in the 1-2000 range.
maratc 3 hours ago
NoSalt 2 hours ago
scosman 4 hours ago
My 8yo son plays with this any chance he gets. We've started building watches together as a result (simple "drop in movement mods", but aspirations of building our own movement). The author really made something special.
hughw an hour ago
Coincidentally for the last week or so I've revived my Glycine automatic as my daily wearer and I'm gauging my level of dependence on my Apple watch. So far -- hey, I wasn't all that dependent on it, and I guess, I was feeling a bit too digital. I'm going to keep going for a while this way.
THansenite 2 hours ago
I've been fascinated by mechanical watches for years. It can become a deep rabbit hole (like most hobbies). I frequently have watch restoration videos playing in the background as I'm doing things and love the process of taking apart, cleaning, and reassembling these watch movements. Wristwatch Revival is probably my favorite. I has encouraged me to tear apart a few watches of my own to give them a good service. As complex as they look, most follow a very similar process to rebuild.
permalaise 39 minutes ago
Absolutely beautiful explanation.
pratikdeoghare 2 hours ago
When studying distributed systems you have to convince yourself that clocks cannot be relied on. It is hard to do so because all the clocks around me are always working just fine.
When this article was posted here earlier I got an idea that maybe wearing a mechanical watch for a while might help.
I bought a cheap mechanical watch. It needs manual winding daily. If you take it off your wrist it gets out of sync with the other clocks or just stops.
Few weeks with that clock convinced me.
timdiggerm 5 hours ago
It's been more than a year since his last post. Anyone know what's up?
assimpleaspossi 5 hours ago
Maybe the article is done. He did make a few blog posts since then including seven months ago.
bqc an hour ago
One of the best presentations I have ever seen. This article should be made standard for learning about mechanical watches.
grvdrm 5 hours ago
What an outrageously cool and informative website. Love it.
I'm back to mostly wearing analog watches. Had an Apple Watch on my wrist for quite a long time, but something about analog appeals once more. No smartwatch beats an analog in the style department, and I see analog everywhere around me ('burbs of NYC)
josh-sematic 5 hours ago
This piece made me kind of fall in love with mechanical watches. The Orient Bambino I’m currently rocking on my wrist probably wouldn’t be there without it!
sammyo 4 hours ago
My wife finds yard sale watches and has me change the battery, but then I open one, a tiny thing and it's not battery powered but there are layers of tiny tiny gears. Mind boggling. (pro tip, a "bench knife" has a tiny blade that's optimized for plying open watch cases)
NoSalt 3 hours ago
I just want to make sure that this is what you are talking about:
https://www.google.com/search?q=bench+knife
https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-ihwnd7z21q/images/stencil/12...
dabluecaboose 3 hours ago
The term GP was looking for is "Caseback Knife":
https://diplomatwinders.com/cdn/shop/products/55035knife_102...
NoSalt 2 hours ago
vmilner 3 hours ago
Does anyone have recommendations for cheapish mechanical watches that don't cost a fortune to service? (UK based) Secondhand or new.
annagio_ 20 minutes ago
Check microbrand atlas. A map with many microbrands(almost), including UK. https://microbrandatlas.com/
quickthrowman 3 minutes ago
A watch service costs more than a cheap watch, if you define cheap as under $300-500. If you get a Seiko or Citizen with a common movement, you can just have the movement replaced if something goes wrong. I’m not a fan of low end Swiss watches, Japan does them better.
maratc 2 hours ago
Seiko 5 and Seiko 5 GMTs are great, but Orient is also a worthy contender.
artsandsci 2 hours ago
If you get any cheapish mechanical watch with a widely available movement (EG an NH35 or NH36), it makes more sense not to service it, and just replace it when (if) it wears out. That's what I do with my Seikos.
buzzy_hacker 2 hours ago
Seiko 5 is the go-to recommendation for inexpensive mechanical watches
undershirt 43 minutes ago
i would love to see a version of this for the antikythera
kordlessagain 3 hours ago
https://www.youtube.com/wristwatchrevival if anyone loves stuff like this. He's great!
grugdev42 2 hours ago
What a brilliant resource.
I think this should be used in schools.
Really easy to understand and instantly captivating.
Please do more topics!!! :)
jeffbee 41 minutes ago
This YouTube video shows (silently!) the assembly of a watch very similar to the one drawn in this blog. I found it quite informative.
WillAdams 5 hours ago
Relevant YouTube channel for a deep dive:
throwpoaster 3 hours ago
This (re-)triggered a huge (dormant?) mechanical watch special interest for me when it was first posted.
Neurospiceys tread carefully.
<3
cacozen 2 hours ago
I hope nobody tells the neurodivergent about rotatewatches.com or diywatch.club, because it's been a money sink...
throwpoaster an hour ago
NNNOOO000ooo...…
BowBun an hour ago
Incredible!
zkmon 3 hours ago
How many animations does that page have? And how did they make them?
throwaway152321 3 hours ago
High level, it's all done on iPad with Shapr3D. For the details subscribe to his Patreon. Completely worth it.
Kaibeezy 3 hours ago
See also: “Clockmaking”, a 24-part series wherein a brass clock is fabricated by hand - https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZioPDnFPNsETq9h35dgQq80R...
NiloCK 5 hours ago
On-demand ciechanow.ski caliber articles are a pretty good AGI indicator. All the work on that site is wonderful.
serious_angel 5 hours ago
Ineffably magnificent... no words may express how simply ingenious and incredible both the website work and such the marvel the work is attributed to...
What if schools would provide children such marvel? Yes, that requires a sufficient time to achieve, but dear... it's just... a miracle...
Related: https://ciechanow.ski/archives (Bartosz Ciechanowski...)
dionian 3 hours ago
" it may be hard to believe that merely a few decades ago the most convenient way to keep track of time was a mechanical watch." I guess quartz is more convenient if you often take the watch off for more than a day. But my swiss automatics dont need a regular battery change, just a servicing every decade (or longer). I guess there are solar powered quartz watches though.
rvz 5 hours ago
(2022)
dofm 2 hours ago
Paging Elias Thorne! /s
In all seriousness I should read the cameras and lenses one again; it'll be useful to me now
selfawareMammal 3 hours ago
Why is this getting to the top page every year?
NoSalt 3 hours ago
Because watches and watch mechanics are AWESOME!
jmye 3 hours ago
Because new people see it, find it fascinating, and upvote it. As it turns out, in a feed like HN's, it's easy to miss things if you don't happen to see them within a day or so of them being posted.
I'm not sure why this is a mystery.