22-year-old Mozart's handwritten notebook unearthed in 'major discovery' (classicfm.com)
195 points by thunderbong 6 days ago
bit_economist an hour ago
There is not a single citation in this article, even though it uses quotations.
Here is a more reputable article for this news story: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/22/arts/music/mozart-music-f...
Insanity 10 minutes ago
At least they didn't use quotation marks for "emphasis".
genxy 3 hours ago
If you like a discovered manuscript story, you should see "In the Hands of Dante", great movie.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1333644/
This review doesn't spoil the movie https://www.theguardian.com/film/2026/jun/19/in-the-hand-of-...
Side note, imdb's per country rating histograms are mesmerizing https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1333644/ratings/ how different the Iranian ratings are vs the UK.
thrill 2 minutes ago
That looks pretty engaging - all the right people hate it.
LeoPanthera 9 hours ago
"It is a sobering thought that when Mozart was my age, he had been dead for two years."
Tom Lehrer.
NooneAtAll3 7 hours ago
Mozart lived for 35 years
Lehrer did 97
palmotea 4 hours ago
> Lehrer did [sic] 97
FYI, most people speak the vast majority of their quotes before the day they die.
hbn 2 hours ago
latexr 25 minutes ago
VeninVidiaVicii 3 hours ago
irishcoffee 6 hours ago
It is possible Lehrer said that before his last day on earth. Sometime around age 37 would make sense.
assimpleaspossi 6 hours ago
ggm 6 hours ago
MyHonestOpinon 22 minutes ago
While interesting. Is it a 'Major discovery' ?
Mistletoe 20 minutes ago
They aren’t making more Mozart notebooks so probably.
gcanyon 6 hours ago
> the Duke failed to pay Mozart for his work
You stiffed Mozart!? A curse on your ghost!
wvbdmp 6 days ago
Apparently this was an exercise book he made for a parisian tutee, who later fled the french revolution, leading to the confiscation of the notebook by the revolutionaries.
yayoohooyahoo 5 hours ago
That's exactly what the article says... so yes apparently that's what it is
stinkbeetle 4 hours ago
I have it on good authority that it is a handwritten notebook.
palmotea 4 hours ago
rob74 4 hours ago
HugoMoran 20 minutes ago
seems like more of a minor discovery to me
alkyon 15 minutes ago
Seven previously unknown compositions for flute and harp is not minor
mpfect 9 hours ago
Turns out "technical debt" also applies to national archives.
jfengel 2 hours ago
More than you can possibly imagine. There are warehouses full of unread papers. Any one of which could contain a reference to somebody or something important.
There was a recently discovered letter, possibly to Shakespeare's wife, which would completely change our understanding of their marriage, and even the way his plays depict women. The only way to find such things is by hordes of grad students trudging their way through fragile paper and messy handwriting.
mmooss 27 minutes ago
I hate to say it, but might LLMs transform archival work? Not by replacing researchers, but by inputting everything (or orders of magnitude more than we could previously) and outputting to the researcher a prioritized list of documents / etc to examine?
listenfaster 2 hours ago
The library where the discovery was made:
https://www.bnf.fr/en/actualitesEN/discovery-unpublished-aut...
I’m hoping that a full scan appears in the archive linked at the bottom of the page. I’m a composer and still hand-notate in a notebook. It’s so cool to the penmanship of someone writing in notebooks so quickly yet cleanly. In case you didn’t read, the contents are primarily exercises in composition where Mozart began a passage, the student continued, and Mozart corrected / guided the students work where needed. So there’s a higher percentage of Mozart in the pieces here than not. Like Brundlefly.
throwpoaster 4 hours ago
Hear perhaps here:
mrighele 8 hours ago
I love his handwriting style. I wonder if it was the first draft or a copy [1]
coliveira 5 hours ago
Composers were also handwriting masters. Bach also had incredible handwriting, there's a youtube channel about it.
SoftTalker 2 hours ago
Schools used to spend a lot of time on penmanship. I visited a high school where they had a wall of notes left by each senior class. In the notes from the 1950s the writing was quite refined and looked very practiced, and notes left by kids in the 2020s looked like 2nd grade printing by comparison. I don't think cursive handwriting is really even taught/required anymore.
I can imagine that in the time of Bach or Mozart that writing was a big point of emphasis in schools.
spacechild1 an hour ago
Beethoven certainly wasn't.
breezybottom 5 hours ago
You've named one composer who is. I don't see where the inductive step applies.
rob74 4 hours ago
JasonFruit an hour ago
I see you've never worked your way through a manuscript by Donizetti.
K2Short 9 hours ago
I hope we get to hear his new/old music. That would be amazing
nasso_dev 6 hours ago
french radio "France Musique" aired it the other day, i don't know if its available outside of france though
mmmattt 4 hours ago
It was also played live for Fête de la musique in Paris last Sunday.
throwpoaster 4 hours ago
Perhaps here:
jansan 6 hours ago
Let's hope it is more authentic than the Hitler Diaries[1]
dcminter 6 hours ago
Any time something of popular historical interest like this pops up I think about that.
If you've not read it then Robert Harris's (factual) book about the affair is entertaining, not least because such a broad sweep of dislikeable characters were undone by greed and folly!
spacechild1 an hour ago
The whole affair was bizarre. At one point Kujau, the author of the fake diaries, ran out of ideas and let Hitler complain about his flatulence.
There is also a very funny German movie about it (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schtonk!) The director later said that he intentionally omitted some facts about the real scandal because the audience would find it too far fetched.
dcminter a minute ago
ggm 6 hours ago
Confiscated during the revolution, kept by the national library. That's a bit different to "forged on schoolbooks with a Bic pen" provenance-wise.
bell-cot 6 hours ago
Even inside the tiny niche of the classical music history world, a book of daily exercises - written for some now-obscure student, and owned by a national library - is actually a pretty minor thing.
Very few counterfeiters bother doing nickles and dimes.
NopIdoN 2 hours ago
BTW the metal in a nickel is worth about 7 cents.
estetlinus 5 hours ago
> By coincidence, Goy had been looking at other documents Mozart had written for teaching just weeks earlier
Color me sceptical
bell-cot 4 hours ago
He was a niche-specialty career archivist, sorting through his library's collection of stuff from the right era and area. That is the discovery story behind a rather large fraction of such documents.
estetlinus 3 hours ago
nok22kon 4 hours ago
parallel construction
abstractspoon 6 days ago
Anyone remember the Hitler diaries?