Breaking the Bird Barrier: Scientist Decodes Zebra Finch Language (freepressjournal.in)
45 points by yyyk 4 days ago
ileonichwiesz 3 hours ago
Very interesting topic, but a strange choice of source. I'd recommend these instead:
Coller foundation press release: https://www.jeremycollerfoundation.org/news-and-insights/pre...
The actual publication in Science: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.ads8482
MathMonkeyMan 2 hours ago
It does have the title going for it.
technothrasher an hour ago
The title doesn't match the paper though. People had already decoded the bird calls. What the paper was giving evidence to was that the birds themselves are cognitively decoding the calls.
t-writescode an hour ago
kiproping 3 hours ago
Thank you, I was also looking for a better source and a link to the paper. I thought the paper was this older one https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-06394-9 from 2018.
bluechair 9 minutes ago
I remember hearing about an interesting paper; it argued that Zebra finch songs were as complex as recursively enumerable languages on the Chomsky hierarchy. I wanted to see if I could find it but came across another paper arguing that their embedded context sensitivity can be explained by simpler rules.
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0908113106
Left this comment as another computer science connection.
AndrewKemendo 16 minutes ago
Another win for machine learning:
>She then applied machine learning to analyse how information was encoded in the calls before testing her findings through behavioural experiments.