Germany’s Infineon opens major chip plant as EU seeks tech autonomy (rfi.fr)
145 points by giuliomagnifico 5 hours ago
Tade0 2 hours ago
EDIT: Apparently it's a different plant.
It's not just Infineon - it's called the European Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (ESMC) and is a joint venture by TSMC, Bosch, Infineon, and NXP, with TSMC being the majority (70%) shareholder.
I've met one of the engineers designing the piping for that plant. Hardest project to date for him and mainly because TSMC was setting the pace.
1718627440 2 hours ago
These are different plants, that are situated in the same quarter.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1191197175 vs. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/583767292
Tade0 34 minutes ago
You're right, honest mistake. I checked this several times, thinking "surely there aren't two chip plants built at the same time, in roughly the same location with the same company involved?".
Apparently there are.
raverbashing an hour ago
> Hardest project to date for him and mainly because TSMC was setting the pace.
I can imagine their pace might be accelerated but better than endless discussions, shuffling and never shipping
joe_mamba 36 minutes ago
"European" Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (ESMC)
>Looks inside
>It's all TSMC
They can't even come up with an original name, they just replaced Taiwan with European.
jansan 2 hours ago
Isn't that TSMC joint venture another plant that will open next year?
usrnm 4 hours ago
> The plant will produce chips for intelligent power management
> The company ... sought to capitalise on the massive AI investment boom
These chips are probably very useful and important, but I don't see what they have to do with AI. Does everything need to have the word AI these days?
_fizz_buzz_ 4 hours ago
Infineon is betting big on the 800V dc power distribution that seems to become the new standard for AI data centers which is directly relevant for the chips that are made in this fab.
1718627440 2 hours ago
I think this fab was already in construction before the AI hype, this is just marketing.
joe_mamba an hour ago
Very bad marketing since the slop article doesn't even mention the process node of the fab.
topspin 4 minutes ago
alephnerd 4 hours ago
> don't see what they have to do with AI
Not directly. This fab is meant to primarily fabricate compound semiconductors which is Infineon's niche and is a major bottleneck for European industry today.
> Does everything need to have the word AI these days
Because Infineon's press release [0] for their compound semiconductor fab called out "AI".
Additonally, the "semiconductor" and "hardware" segment has now been rebranded has "AI" in a number of funds. By calling out something that's even tenuously tied to "AI", it allows funds that are contractually tied to investing in "AI" to purchase Infineon stock.
Investor relations is important as well.
[0] - https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/infineon-opens-the-...
wolfi1 4 hours ago
there was a buzzword bingo and their application reached Bingo! first.
petcat 4 hours ago
My understanding is that these are pretty low-tech chips only for industrial uses?
blitzar 3 hours ago
Also suitable for keeping an economy functioning and weaponry in war.
You might not be able to fabricate billion terraflop GPUs but at least the basics of survival will be able to be locally produced without scavenging washing machines for parts.
joe_mamba an hour ago
>Also suitable for keeping an economy functioning
The (western) economy runs on sub 7nm phone, laptop and datacenter chips on which the white collar workforce produces value. Those are the ones that are also the most profitable since they have the highest margins. Europe doesn't have that.
upboundspiral 9 minutes ago
seabird 2 hours ago
“Only for industrial uses” is kind of a crazy thing to say when you say it out loud, don’t you think? You might as well say “only for having real-world impact”.
joe_mamba an hour ago
And 3nm CPUs, GPUs, phone SoCs don't have "real world impact"?
One could say they have an even bigger real world impact.
seabird 11 minutes ago
mqus 3 hours ago
they may low-density, but low-tech?
alephnerd 4 hours ago
> these are pretty low-tech chips only for industrial uses
I don't like this framing.
These aren't logic ICs but that doesn't mean they are useless or "easy".
Heck, the only countries with Gallium Nitride fabrication capabilities and knowhow are the US, China, Taiwan, Japan, South Korea, Germany, and India.
In fact, compound semiconductors and power electronics is one segment where Europe's China dependency is extremely high, as they have significant uses from automotive to PLCs to weapons systems, and China has already begun embargoing the EU's access to rare earth elements [0] and has begun enforcing sanctions against the EU's aerospace and UAV industry [1].
These are dual use technologies and a major reason why both the US and China heavily invested in compound semiconductor capacity in the late 2010s and early 2020s.
Edit: can't reply
> In 2024 Belgium closed its only semi fab, which had recently pivoted to GaN
THEMA Foundries is working in photonics, not GaNs [2]. The GaN initiative (BelGaN) failed and the only two buyers interested in buying out the property for GaN fabrication were a Chinese and Indian player [2].
[0] - https://www.reuters.com/world/china/eu-firms-brace-more-shut...
[1] - https://www.scmp.com/economy/global-economy/article/3351292/...
[2] - https://www.semiconductor-today.com/news_items/2025/apr/belg...
chicken-stew 3 hours ago
In 2024 Belgium closed its only semi fab, which had recently pivoted to GaN.
joe_mamba an hour ago
>Heck, the only countries with Gallium Nitride fabrication capabilities and knowhow are the US, China, Taiwan, Japan, South Korea, Germany, and India.
So basically all major industrial powers? In which case I don't get the use of the world "only" here, as if the EU, the richest block in the world, deserve praise for doing something countries a lot less wealthier are doing.
> and China has already begun embargoing the EU's access to rare earth elements [0] and has begun enforcing sanctions against the EU's aerospace and UAV industry [1].
The way it's framed it sounds like China is some evil bad guy for doing that but that's standard practice that the EU and US also do. The EU also restricts ASML EUV machines to China and sanctions Chinese tech in their defense sector. Standard stuff.
alephnerd 42 minutes ago
imtringued 3 hours ago
Germany doesn't design high end SoCs or x86 processors so why would they build a fab for them?
petra 3 hours ago
Designing a secure platform is possible within the EU[1].
[1]They need to use US EDA tools, And manufacture masks but maybe there are tricks they won't need to trust them - like inspecting critical parts of the masks.
IshKebab an hour ago
It's not just high end CPUs that use the latest processes. Power, Performance and Area is important to all chips, including microcontrollers, FPGA, etc.
alephnerd 3 hours ago
Bad take.
Design capacity doesn't imply fabrication capacity, as can be seen with Israel and India's comparative dominance in the chip design industry.
Design capacity (basically programming and logic design) is orthogonal to front-end fabrication (basically material science and chemical engineering) which is orthogonal to back-end/OSAT (basically materials science and metrology).
Only the US and Taiwan have domestic E2E capacity in all 3.
hyperionultra 44 minutes ago
Infinity neon! A nice company name.
alephnerd 4 hours ago
As I mentioned about this before [0], this is a compound semiconductor fab - a very critical bottleneck for European industry and a much more worrisome NatSec issue than sub-14nm logical chip fabrication or arguably even AI.
This is not directly related to AI or logical compute, so kvetching about GPUs, SoCs, TSMC, AI, and other buzzwords is dumb.
blitzar 3 hours ago
I would also like to see local PCB manufacturers - pcbway etc like. Modern production facilities might even be locally competitive given the amount of automation that can be had.
plextoria 3 hours ago
Does AISLER[1] do the same thing as pcbway? They seem to be based in Germany/EU
blitzar 2 hours ago
corv 3 hours ago
alephnerd 3 hours ago
They should, but sadly it's extremely difficult for PCB board manufacturing to return to Europe.
EU has FTAs with Japan and SK, and others that dominate the segment like Taiwan, China, Thailand, Malaysia, Vietnam, and India have already unlocked public-private subsidized for the sector.
Additionally, the big players in the industry like ZDT, Unimicron, Nippon Mekatron, Foxconn, Compeq, TTM, and Flex have much stronger financial and political linkages in Asia or the Americas.
This fab itself is important, but was extremely difficult to stand-up and was largely a result of the supply chain issues that the automotive industry faced during zero covid, so it basically took 6 years to execute on this project. That lag-time is the biggest issue unless individual European states decide to take industrial policy their own hands, which becomes expensive very quickly.
Concentrating on building a niche in compound semiconductors as well as 2.5/3D packaging would probably be the best bet for the EU today, but I expect to see French-German industrial rivalry to undermine coordination.
TheChaplain 3 hours ago
Funny that the article didn't mention it.
Infineon got €1bn of tax payer money to open the plant (~$1.1bn).
advisedwang 2 hours ago
The article says:
> The facility was backed by the EU's Chips Act with one billion euros in subsidies
1718627440 2 hours ago
There are worse ways to spend tax payers money.
48484949 an hour ago
Let's see the state of this project in 5 years. Experience tends to show European projects dragging forever and then suddenly closing whilst funds mysteriously move into semi public companies with boards full to the brim with retired political figures
logicchains an hour ago
Squarex an hour ago
Yeah, most europeans are not aware how much do we spend on agriculture, pensions and healthcare.