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Inference isn't that hard, you can run on amd/ Intel if needed.

You seem to be so sure, but lobbying in the US can do incredible (and stupid) things. Look at the 3d printing control laws that are being passed in NY

There’s a combined $3T+ of capital which is at least in some position to benefit from local AI ban. Don’t underestimate this

I think you are assuming those companies won't sign on to be on a list of "authorized model operators", while letting it become illegal for you to run deepseek yourself.

If big biz wants it, it'll only run signed blob models and prolly send telemetry.

And Adobe! I've always figured their heart can't really be in the business of running a cloud platform that has to decide what people can and can't edit.

Blackmagic Design too.

They are all desperate for Windows to run well on a chip with unified VRAM.

Don't doubt it. Situation is fluid. Anything could happen.

Isn't the RTX Spark from every OEM just nvidia throwing a bone to their decade long partners after nvidia crashed the regular PC market?

> Laws restricting the use of local AI/LLMs are not going to happen

Are you sure? There are already laws against what you can do at home with very basic (pun) fundamentals of reality like chemistry.

Someone simply searching for "How to assassinate Trump" could get arrested for a thought crime. Hell this comment alone likely set off a few flags.

Imagine someone running an AI at home and asking it for planning a hit on someone. Cue same media fearmongering wave as with 3D printed guns and woohoo now it's mandatory for operating systems to watch your screen and all your keystrokes.

Fuck I probably gave some of the control freaks in power some ideas there :(

That would not make much strategic sense. China's main advantage is its export power. Why would they cut that off? They are also making incredible investments in actual power to sustain this. The kind of investments the United States doesn't seem capable of making, mostly because our leaders are staggeringly incompetent and unfit. And no, picking the bar up off the floor is not good enough.

Once they dominate the market, they will export to keep it that way. The exported models will be a generation or two behind their SOTA. It will nevertheless surpass Mythos unless you believe we are already at the peak. And it might be "free" but it will obviously be backdoored the same way the United States government benefits from Microsoft's global dominance. The same way America hands out fighter jets just generation behind their own best to keep other governments part of the club and in line.

Unlike the United States where every four years we are at risk to some 180 on policy the Chinese have a clear thesis and a clear direction. How many presidents has Xi seen come and go? Do you get the sense he is getting more impressed? They really don't have to do anything but just keep doing what they are doing. Suddenly stopping their export engine is not in keeping with this strategy. That is "stable genius" behavior.

the music may stop in the future, but right now it isn't even slowing down.

Xi did not interfere when Chinese labs released GPT-4, o1, o3, etc level models. why draw the line at current SOTA that will be old news in a year?

I can't tell from the site or the linked twitter handles. Their core ask for every state seems to be "Please support clear safe-harbor language for lawful local AI ownership, research, model modification, open-source publication, and local execution" rather than stopping or amending any specific bill/law.

One they _could_ be referring to is the California AI Transparency Act which isn't compatible with open source licensing, see https://github.blog/news-insights/policy-news-and-insights/g...

Amen. Local AI is the positive future, and SaaS AI is the hellscape. There is a very clear good vs evil boundary here, and every single person involved knows exactly where the boundary is. Those who pretend not to are simply just motivated by things other than the moral good.

I think the bogeyman would be making possession of a local AI a felony.

How long do you think your hardware will last?

you can also freely download CP on your private property PC

but I wouldn't advise it

> yet another compliance ceiling and quick cash for state government to pinch out of the productive elements of society

The twist is that AI is pushing all white collar jobs further into bureaucratic work. Nobody is losing their jobs and it's not quite a revolution, but despite all odds and headlines the younger generations are actually much better educated and positioned to do the right things as they take over.

An optimistic take is that since this is the middle class we're talking about, we get more productivity and more justice as a result. The only people upset about this are grifters and charlatans whose time is up.

This feels short-sighted unless you are ethnically han?

> You don't need the world's stolen information to run a small project containing locally trained data you collected.

Local training? Is that feasible?

I mean if you go into old AI safety discussion from before LLMs you'll see they don't do that. They go after new hardware. That's way easier than going after software. Hardware doesn't last forever and manufacturers will gladly cripple their cards and license powerful ones to businesses.

Dario and friends are fear mongering local models to get them banned.

no computer for you, then.

....and my abacus!

This. They can see their valuations slipping. They hope that in a few/several years they will start reaping profits. However, in several years local hardware will be well suited to run models locally at 80-90% efficiency - for "free". You won't need frontier models for daily tasks in a few years. I'd guess.

They already are. Altman is basically begging the US to buy into OAI, that's just the start. Both OAI and Anthropic are going to have to go down this path or their financials will never work out. Open local models are where the enterprise will need to go for any of this to be cost feasible, but we can almost guarantee this will be a battle nobody using AI will have asked for. You can thank Dario and Sam for the dystopian future that will pad their bottom line!

This whole situation is very reminiscent of how Microsoft was trying to get Linux and open source banned when NT started losing market share on the server.

their desperation says alot about the viability of their business.

As a future scenario where models become so efficient that _any_ model installed on _any_ computer could be considered "a national security risk"?

IDK, I don't live in the US, and I have no idea which "possible law" this website is referring to. In any case, it could be seen as a proactive effort to keep the gates open.

As a side note, I think this is a discussion every open-source supporter should have by actively considering the risks and what actions to take if such a hypothetical law were ever to pass.

because everything you take for granted is one `think of the children` campaign away from being taken from you.

"I am eighteen years old, have a good set of passkeys, and believe in Sam Altman, the star-spangled banner, and the fourth of July. I have taken up a BLM lot, cleared up eighteen acres last year, and placed top of it a bitcoin mine. My vibe coded drop-shipping startup looks first-rate, and the conversion rate and total addressable market are bully.

Mock it we might now, but 12 acres and (not too distant future) open weights AI models capable of driving open source robots for farm labor would be huge.

No need for huge expensive purpose built tractors. Even if they’re slow you could have half a dozen running 24/7.

It could provide independence for anyone with a modicum of resources.

What is this referencing?

There have been laws that control the distribution of software for decades.

RATs do not require a datacenter to develop.

Anything using the word "intelligence", unqualified, when referring to AI, is pure propaganda.

There's gpt-oss from OpenAI, gemma from Google, phi from Microsoft, granite from IBM, nemotron from NVIDIA, Ornith from DeepReinforce, Olmo from the Allen Institute.

Aside from that you're 100% correct.

llama is from meta

No chance. Every despot has a cadre of true believers, the types who believe their great leader is playing 4D chess or that its all part of a greater divine plan.

That's the kind of mindset that helps lead to that situation.

Voting is always effective.

In the worst case it communicates the magnitude of dismsissiveness while demonstrating your intention to claim agency.