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It gives "Bleeb is now Scrumple! Snap me on Simpr! We're excited to share that Gringl will merge with Jigglify!"

Headline reminds me of Poob.

https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/3056633-poob-has-it-for-you

The irony of that linked page dragging a reposted mid tweet into multiple scrollable pages of “content” and in doing so reading exactly like a celeb news article

Yeah it should definitely start with a bit of explanation, perhaps, it should start with what this site (hn, aka, hackernews) is even about!

So is it true that JESTERMAXXING at the club is the new meta?

https://trending.knowyourmeme.com/editorials/guides/what-is-...

I have zero idea what your link has to do with the original post, which seems to just be the Gleam language on some new version control host?

Fwiw the sign up/in process for me was "click login, type in my existing blue sky handle, type in my password (into a bsky domain name login prompt), click authorize".

I expect that's the... more optimized flow at this point in this forge's life.

> - why does the auth flow pass me through a new ui/url that seems owned by the project but visually disconnected (eg, different branding/colors for the form)

Probably because of the above, identity isn't tightly associated with the app you're using here so they've stood up their own infra for it but probably not spent too much time on making it good.

> - except you cant actually log in with this username directly

Really? That's strange... I haven't made a native account... what do you need to login with then?

Better than my experience with it, just says:

>Failed to complete sign up. Try again later.

If you click on the title, it will tell you more.

Gleam has had many dozens of front page posts here.

Tangled is a niche GitHub alternative, but has also had previous history.

"being on tangled" really just means "publishing sh.tangled.* atproto records"

the beauty of atproto means that you are in no way tied to the VC funded company behind the web app available at tangled.org. you merely publish your git repository using a protocol that this app will pick up and present with a nice UI

any other app that speaks atproto and looks at those same sh.tangled.* records will be able to access everything in the same way

and even the git repository itself doesn't need to be hosted by tangled the company, you can host your repository yourself. all you need is a server that can speak git, ssh, http and websocket

While the way that Tangled is funded is not my preference, I see great potential in atproto for improving the internet. This and and a lot of interest in the Gleam community for the protocol made me decide it was a good place to host a mirror of the Gleam repository.

They're still on GitHub. This isn't any sort of official transition. It's just now also on this other ATProto-based forge.

We all know why... as a condition of some monetary support. It does give a sour taste, really shows what core values are: money > community. I'll just focus on using elixir for a project instead.

> I created a repo but can't look at it because I get a 404 for it.

I remember back in early GitHub days this used to happen too, as the repository was asynchronously created but the redirect was immediate, then after a few seconds you refreshed the page and it was there. At one point they added the interstitial that I think is still there, that basically does the "waiting then redirect" for you.

[Radicle](https://radicle.dev/) gets a wee bit closer. It’s selfhostable and federated. You’ll have a hard time finding something with the same social gravity well as GitHub; it remains to be seen whether that’s a separable element or if it needs to ship as part of the forge itself.

I think it's currently non-selfhostable. You can host your own git server (knot) and CI runner (spindle) but not really the UI/API itself, but they're working on changing it. Currently it's a bit centralised

I’d be interested too. Besides the fact that the company appears to be registered in Finland, I haven’t been able to find any information on who’s behind this, how they are funded, etc.

Why Tangled instead of something more established like Codeberg, or if f/loss, Forgejo or Gitea?

Just because ATProto vibes?

Yes, frustration with GitHub outages certainly made me start to look elsewhere.

Smashly and GoFlam have merged.

Grimbl and Sporkify are joining forces.

GetSocks is now on Zoobazoop.

Don't open the story, don't follow the links, and last but not the least don't read the texts!

What's a search engine?

I guess this is one of those cases where, "if you know, you know."

I'm not sure of the link on the post though... I didn't see anything at all that jumped out as pertinent to this "Tangled" thing. I get that many posts on HN just aren't meant for me... but this seems to take that to an extreme.

Edit: yes I see the URL is Tangled... But that is a very subtle cue that I didn't notice until the third time I clicked through to see if the landing page really said nothing about Tangled.

This regularly happens with Microsoft's GitHub. You can also opt to not use Bluesky for authentication.

this is like complaining that you can't login anywhere because google banned your gmail account...

If this is a concern you can just migrate to a different PDS

Isn't that the same as Github "moderating" my Github account for some unrelated reason? Also, since Bluesky is decentralised, can't I just host my own data?

I use both. Tangled is missing some important features (private repos, protected branches). The ui feels more comfy to me, though. And Codeberg is quite slow for me.

Idk if I can give you toooo much about migration, since I haven't used any CICD kind of stuff; just having repos to push to is super simple if you use their hosted knots. Also not too complicated to host a knot yourself; I'm hosting my own knot, and I like that I own at least one of the servers that I'm pushing code to.

What makes Tangled different from other forges like Forgejo/Codeberg is that its built around the ATProto federation protocol

the way the CI runners on tangled work, you could just plug in your own bespoke runner as long as it fits the interface. we implement two such "engines": nixery and microvm. you can plug an engine like tack[0], which can act like a bridge interface to other CI systems. there is also loom[1], which is a kubernetes based engine.

[0]: https://tangled.org/mitchellh.com/tack

[1]: tangled.org/evan.jarrett.net/loom

With "spindles", apparently: https://blog.tangled.org/spindle-microvm/

Project's still on Github, it hasn't migrated or anything.

girl what

Not sure how good of a social protocol it is, but I see ATProto/PDS as a possible succesor to solid [1], if they implment the permissioned data access model correctly. Which would certainly have a lot of good usecases, beyond social apps.

[1] solid: https://solidproject.org/about

I agree (with caveats and not as strongly), but claiming no utility is a bit much.

Wow I had no idea, thank you for your well-reasoned critique! I can tell you're very capable of evaluating the merits of complex socio-technological systems. Your wisdom is unparalleled; now I see we all should just keep using X and GitHub.

This comment seems to lack nuance