Texas Police Spent $4.5M on Four Chevy Tahoes (thedrive.com)

137 points by randycupertino 20 hours ago

randycupertino 20 hours ago

Answer: Military Grade surveillance tech

> Naturally, it wasn’t just $4.5 million for four 2026 Chevy Tahoes, though the SUVs themselves were still bizarrely expensive at $150,000 a piece. Here’s how the purchase order breaks down:

- FalcoNet Core System (x4): $2,850,000

- Unlicensed FalcoNet core system: $200,000

- Delta 5G Perpetual license for FalcoNet V (x4): $280,000

- 2026 Chevrolet Tahoe (x4): $600,000

- FalcoNet Backpack core V2 – 6 x BTS (2G/3G/4G/5G): $355,500

- Flexable [sic] antenna kit: $27,000

- Cognyte PA Ranger: $105,000

- Unlicensed FalcoNet Backpack core V2 – 6 x BTS (2G/3G/4G/5G): $70,000

- Total PO Amount: $4,487,500

adverbly 18 hours ago

The obvious question then becomes why 4 military-grade surveillance Tech Tahoes are needed.

Was three not enough for the current demand for military grade surveillance by the police?

Why is there so much demand for military grade surveillance? Is there a better way to address that core need?

A million bucks buys a lot of essential services.

janderson215 11 hours ago

The cartels have also militarized. Bit of a vicious cycle we’re in.

FireBeyond 10 hours ago

pseudohadamard 7 hours ago

> Why is there so much demand for military grade surveillance?

Because there's just not enough room in the budget for things like community engagement, rehabilitation programs, and similar things, so we have to spend millions on military surveillance gear to compensate for the absence of community engagement, rehabilitation programs, and similar things. Isn't it obvious?

troupo 17 hours ago

John Oliver did a report on militarization of police 11 years ago. It's only become worse since: https://youtu.be/KUdHIatS36A?is=C86HI8463VZnqjXU

fingerlocks 6 hours ago

ronsor 19 hours ago

Every police station needs to be a mini-CIA, surely.

WillPostForFood 19 hours ago

It is 4 trucks for the state police, and it is a big state.

OutOfHere 18 hours ago

nilamo 18 hours ago

cucumber3732842 17 hours ago

You'd think the real CIA would get pissy about these upstarts and stomp em.

yourapostasy 18 hours ago

Maybe the Chevy Tahoes were priced as the initial capex, and a maintenance and support contract covering capex and opex for the next X years with a local dealership? I’ve sometimes seen this in corporate budgeting. Some companies prefer to lock in support and maintenance in advance for a more expensive fixed price instead of pay a variable but lower price over the same time period because of the budgeting vagaries that entails.

Considering the amount of time and the number of expensive management staff involved in them I’ve seen some budgeting knife fights burn up, I see the logic.

pyuser583 19 hours ago

Wait I read the memo - it said “duty of care.” That’s powerful rhetoric but really narrow and well defined legalese.

I checked, and Texas police only have a duty of care in narrow situations: if someone requires emergency medical care, they must call an ambulance; if they are driving an emergency vehicle, they must do so safely.

That’s about it. There’s no “general duty of care” obligation.

Maybe they’re just using scary sounding language, or maybe this narrow clause is being interpreted to grant the police much larger powers.

But “duty of care” is usually intended to hold someone accountable.

bob1029 20 hours ago

I find it amusing how ineffective all of this stuff becomes if you simply leave your phone at home. No one is doing the hard kind of police work anymore.

SoftTalker 19 hours ago

Most criminals are dumb, some of them not only carry their phones with them, they even post their crimes on social media. With that and Flock I would think police work has never been easier.

throw0101a 18 hours ago

> With that and Flock I would think police work has never been easier.

“A policeman's job is only easy in a police state.” — Touch of Evil (1958), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfgNNfnNAa8

entropie 19 hours ago

> Most criminals are dumb

You mean most criminals who get caught?

SoftTalker 19 hours ago

Hikikomori 19 hours ago

Cops are lazy and dumb as well. They use flock to find people in the area and accuse them of crimes they didn't commit.

alwa 18 hours ago

cucumber3732842 17 hours ago

They don't care about catching criminals. They can use real police work for that. They care about being able to profile everyone going back some arbitrary amount of time so that when someone who isn't homeless with nothing the state can steal gets out of line they can come up with a short list of who done it.

mmooss 19 hours ago

Another story in the same publication is about one of their writers being arrested because of Flock cameras (falsely IDing their test-drive car).

DivingForGold 18 hours ago

This just adds fuel to the fire favoring police location apps, where users who spot police vehicles, in this case DPS vehicles post on their app and all app users receive notifications, so anybody nearby can turn off their cellphones - - or, "clam them up" in a ball of 50 layers of aluminum foil slit on the side. Of course, police will merely start placing hardware in inconspicuous vehicles then. What if there was a way to massively FLOOD these devices with spurious data though?

bottle_roket 15 hours ago

Isn’t most of the data sent between your phone and the cell tower encrypted anyways? This would only catch voice calls and SMS right?

throw1234567891 14 hours ago

They do have their own BTS. If that BTS is the one strongest advertising itself to your phone (most often simply the closest one), your phone will connect to it.

OutOfHere 19 hours ago

A core issue as I see it is that the police has too much money. Why are people willingly paying so much in taxes? Why don't people move to lower tax cities and counties? Granted, fines also contribute to their income.

There are ways of lowering crime that don't require police militarization, some of which are covered in https://youtu.be/YJTPGu2E4qk.

mike_bob 19 hours ago

As a country, we spend nearly as much on domestic police (~$250B) as China does on their military each year. And from what I've seen, there is no correlation with increases in police spending and drops in crime rates. It's pretty disturbing if you think about it.

eclipticplane 18 hours ago

It's a mass jobs program with a powerful set of unions behind it.

mmooss 19 hours ago

It's an interesting question: Isn't Texas widely marketed as a 'low tax area'?

It may be a 'low income tax area', with more regressive taxes used to fund the state and an equal or higher total? Texans need to pay for the same things, generally, as people in Massachusetts (though maybe they don't invest as much in schools, health care, etc.).

cucumber3732842 16 hours ago

You vastly under-estimate how expensive social services programs are. The people of Texas can pay less have piles of money for 1984 equipped police cars and highschool football stadiums and other boondoggles by simply not having those programs.

Is it the right thing to do? ehhh....

That said Texas isn't that low tax overall compared to a lot of other states. They have pretty oppressive property taxes.

ck2 18 hours ago

I realize this particular case is state level but at the federal level $21 TRILLION has been spent on militarization including police forces from 2001-2021

https://ips-dc.org/report-state-of-insecurity-cost-militariz...

enough is enough, it is beyond ridiculous, imagine how much food, clothing, shelter and healthcare that could have bought instead

BobbyTables2 9 hours ago

I think the vast majority of the public has no comprehension of what a trillion even is. All the “*illions” are units they will never have to deal with in their personal lives.

However, I suspect a family of four could start to understand $300k of cash they (and everyone they know) couldn’t have because the money was used for such purposes...

Even over 20 years, that’s like a nice new car every other year…

Sure, taxation isn’t uniform but this is an enormous amount of money!

mindslight 18 hours ago

And what do we get for it? Cops that think they are in the military, acting as a hostile occupation force and killing our own citizens. Their personal urges should have led them to put up (join the actual military) or shut up (don't). Instead they were given an easier and safer option that requires all of the bravado of shooting fish in a barrel, so they took it.

stasomatic 14 hours ago

The new Miami police chief's salary is over $300K. I don't mind, fix this rathole, will ya?