Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview (community.openai.com)
436 points by allanrbo 17 hours ago
pentagrama 3 hours ago
Interesting to see the Linux version released. On Windows, though, my experience with the new ChatGPT app since Codex was folded into it hasn't been great.
I'm a Codex user, and when it was still a standalone app it worked really well for me. Since it became part of the new ChatGPT app, the app feels noticeably slower and, at least on my machine, is currently using around 1.27 GB of RAM [1].
The old ChatGPT app, which has now been renamed "ChatGPT Classic", feels much faster and is using around 478 MB under the same conditions.
I have a reasonably powerful PC, so the difference is pretty noticeable. I assume Classic will eventually be discontinued, but so far the transition to the new app on Windows hasn't been particularly good for me.
WalterGR 14 hours ago
From yesterday, with 26 comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49264334
pdhborges 14 hours ago
For someone who has not tried these desktop apps: what is the the advantage versus cli codex with some MPCs and multiple folders each one with their context files?
Gareth321 14 hours ago
The same as an OS with a UI. Discoverability, fewer actions per activity, easier navigation, faster to learn/lower skill floor, etc. Some highlights:
1. Much better multi-agent orchestration. The app supervises many agents, with different project views and built-in git worktrees, so agents can work on isolated copies of the same repo. It's easy to jump between tasks and see changes. I recall OpenAI wrote that CLI was not designed around this style of work.
2. The app combines multiple terminals, file previews, PR-review workflows, SSH connections, an integrated browser, and page annotations. For front-end stuff, Codex can run the app in Codex for mockups/prototypes, then iterate inside the app. IMHO I think this is a much faster, more intuitive flow.
3. For long-running and recurring agent workflows, I think they're much easier to manage in the app. You get automations, review queues, persistent conversation context, future schedules, and auto resume for longer running tasks. E.g. CI failure summaries, issue triage, and release briefs.
You can do some of the above, to some degree, with varying levels of success in the CLI, but I think it's miles ahead in the app.
KronisLV 9 hours ago
> The app supervises many agents, with different project views and built-in git worktrees, so agents can work on isolated copies of the same repo. It's easy to jump between tasks and see changes.
This is mostly true with Codex and Claude Code Desktop, but gets a bit trickier with 3rd party tools.
I tried out some others and both Paseo and Kepler felt a little bit clunky especially around sub-agents and workflows (even if they let me have both OpenCode and Claude Code with different providers in the same UI). And OpenCode is plain lovely in the terminal but sorta okay in the browser: compare its display of sub-agents to what Claude Code does, for example; their tabbed interface also feels a tad less pleasant than the vertical menu of projects + sessions that most others are settling on, not their old look with icon per project, that was worse. There's definitely ample room for better tooling, then again early IDEs were far worse, so hopefully ADEs will get more polish eventually!
Still, regardless of what you use and across how many providers, it's nice to have everything in a single familiar interface, if you need that.
jtrn 5 hours ago
Nonono. You are supposed to pile one with negativity and point out everything that is bad with it!!
embedding-shape 2 hours ago
arminluschin 14 hours ago
You get GUI niceties: a nice presentation of the output like inline markdown rendering including tables and images in a nice font. Input supports drag & drop, and I can actually navigate the input field the way I am used to (pointing and clicking, using keyboard shortcuts to jump to beginning of words / sentences). Not sure what the most modern CLIs support, but for me just the ergonomics of a GUI text field alone are superior.
Pavilion2095 14 hours ago
It's easier to use for most people. I don't think CLI and GUI programs target the same audience.
logicallee 14 hours ago
I'm not ready to try this yet, since after some recent experiences[1] I've decided not to be at the cutting edge of new tools and models for a few weeks or months.
However, from the screenshots and description, I expect that you would have these advantages:
- History. Currently, if you type into the CLI (TUI) your intention and requests are captured in some transcripts, but not in conversational turns. If you want the history of what you typed into the cli/tui you would have to datamine it from transcripts. By contrast, on the screenshots you can see it is a simple conversation that's saved and easy to return to.
- Multiplatform. As per the announcement "Use Codex across ChatGPT, your editor, and the terminal", meaning that you could open the ChatGPT app on your phone and continue to interact with this. While this might not matter to you if you exclusively code while sitting in front of your computer, still, it helps you be able to stay on top of things if you are on mobile.
- Background tasks and autonomous work. It says you can schedule it to do things in the background (issue triage, alert monitoring). At the moment, it would only do this if you've asked either codex or another agent to build a harness for it that does so. (i.e. you could ask Claude to build a harness that calls Codex on some schedule or interval.)
These all seem pretty good and I look forward to starting to use it once it's been more battle-tested.
[1] notably, on the Anthropic side the Opus 5 regressions - I had to downgrade to Opus 4.8 as I found Opus 5 was unreliable. I currently use Opus 4.8 and Codex Sol 5.6.
BodyCulture 14 hours ago
This will make it much easier to trap people into installing it without any isolation just to their primary user account or even make it run with admin privileges by default.
With the recent security related events we already see that it seems to be wide spread practice that many operators avoid the hassle of isolating their agents.
It is just an incredible cultural experience to see how quick stupidity gets accepted as a behavioural default.
fg137 11 hours ago
At least on Windows/Mac, a significant number of users of this app are non developers, and you should tame your expectations about them handling things like "isolation".
Even for developers working on Linux, you'll be surprised how many have never run a docker command in their life.
pjmlp 8 hours ago
A proof that normies just can't handle security is that when OS X came to be, many Mac OS users used to ask how to disable the root/regular user dichotomy.
Or the long process to educate Windows users, and developers as well, to not run as Administrator.
usef- 13 hours ago
The Linux version seems to use bubblewrap + seccomp for a "workspace sandbox" automatically, in addition to the auto mode and/or user approval.
A VM would be even better, but people could presumably run this in one if we manage to convince them of higher sandboxing in general ?
bloak 12 hours ago
Bubblewrap gets a bit confused inside a Docker container. If anyone knows how to run Codex inside a Docker container on Linux without it constantly complaining about a broken bubblewrap, please tell.
embedding-shape 12 hours ago
sh34r 6 hours ago
justincormack 13 hours ago
The cli does that already with codex on linux
lucideer 12 hours ago
The most remarkable things about this announcement:
- Electron based app: Electron is a framework sold on the basis of enabling rapid cross-platform development at the cost of performance.
- Frontier AI company: AI is sold on the basis of enabling rapid development
- App was released in February & took 6 entire months to port to Linux
SyneRyder 11 hours ago
I guess it's easier to solve Erdos problems and improve the lower bound of the Riemann hypothesis, than it is to solve Linux desktop app distribution.
dingaling911 11 hours ago
LOL!
Though as someone who shipped commercial software on Linux, it wasn't that bad, you just had to ship everything other than the kernel.
boutell 9 hours ago
alightsoul 3 hours ago
Yes... Just use DEB package files for any distro. Make a compatibility layer that is distro dependent so that it can come preinstalled on any distro. It converts the DEB package to a distro native package so that it doesn't fuck up existing packages or the existing distro-native package manager, and gives you the apt and dpkg commands . Unlike appimages and flatpaks it has no reviewer, no store and it can be installed just like EXEs on windows which is already the case for DEBs on debian and debian based distros. Would this work?
miohtama 8 hours ago
With the AI, we can finally have the year of desktop Linux.
OroPla 8 hours ago
Microsoft used to ship a Linux binary for Teams, but they stopped doing that. Guess the tech was lost.
freedomben 6 hours ago
onraglanroad 3 hours ago
glitchc 7 hours ago
3abiton 7 hours ago
Nonetheless, it's the year og the linux desktop!
MichaelZuo 8 hours ago
Yeah idk what OpenAI was thinking. Just going off their own claims… OpenAI must be filled with bozos to not be able to utilize their own supposed product capabilities…
scrollop 8 hours ago
PunchyHamster 10 hours ago
It's the exact opposite. They picked the easiest way, done countless times just fine by everyone else and still failed
odiroot 10 hours ago
AppImage, yawn.
sedawkgrep 10 hours ago
cassepipe 9 hours ago
darkwater 11 hours ago
Exactly my thoughts! I was expecting a Rust app written from scratch available at least in Qt and GTK flavors , and maybe with a third and a fourth option.
Don't they have agent swarms with infinite tokens?
concinds 11 hours ago
They replaced a pretty decent native Swift Mac app (with only some chronic state management bugs), weighing ~100MB ish, with the Codex app that most people don't need, made in Electron, which takes minimum 5GB+ including filesystem cruft. Today I ran into a memory leak that froze the app and made the Renderer process take 5GB, then 10GB of RAM.
That was after I asked it to only touch 3 text files in its working directory, after which it sparked macOS permission prompts to access my Desktop, Documents, Downloads, and other apps' data. Thank god for the web platform and web apps.
lukan 10 hours ago
rvz 11 hours ago
kaycey2022 8 hours ago
jonizzle 11 hours ago
mgambati 10 hours ago
olavgg 10 hours ago
I have already created a croos-platform solitaire game in Rust with Opus 4.5. Done in one evening. I absolutely do not understand why OpenAI could not write a proper application in 6 months. Do they struggle to use the product they sell?
shuvrojit 9 hours ago
I am thinking about this too. I mean they have access to the highest level models and still they just produced a garbage.
hombre_fatal 7 hours ago
They probably just don't see it worth the extra effort. And maybe they want to keep it in sync with the web UI.
It definitely is a fraction of the work these days to maintain three different desktop apps + two different mobile apps + a web app. But it's still a lot more work than an Electron app that is merely tweaked between platforms.
randusername 9 hours ago
I was under the impression electron is chosen less because of broad cross-platform concerns and more because chat apps, specifically, require a level of care in text rendering that nobody really wants to design from first principles when they can just piggy back on web technologies.
But I wouldn't know first-hand.
lucideer 8 hours ago
Text rendering is:
1. generally done well by many different UI frameworks
2. generally done better by most popular native UI frameworks than what Electron provides
BUT - those UI frameworks are typically not (very) cross-platform. In that context, Electron provides one of the best unified text-rendering stories of cross-platform options. But definitely far from the best overall.
s_dev 25 minutes ago
Linux users have stronger preferences for the terminal than either Windows or macOS users. Even the same person will use the terminal more in Linux than the other two!
mitchchn 3 hours ago
> App was released in February & took 6 entire months to port to Linux
Product releases at large companies are slowed dow by coordination and resources more than actual development. (I'm an Electron maintainer who is currently working on better Linux support in the framework, and also a developer/PM for a commercial app that supports Linux.)
It's very likely that the Codex Electron app already "worked" on Linux back in February, as in someone internally could build and run it from source and start a chat session. That fact would have made it possible for a small team to make a business case and start getting support from ops, QA, CS, marketing, legal, etc. The engineers would spend their unlimited tokens on Linux-specific build, packaging, and platform integrations (remember this is a computer use agent) to take the app from a prototype to something a company could actually launch and support for millions of users.
Apps are also a moving target. The entire time building up to release, the Linux desktop app would have been getting feature and design updates for free from the updates going out on Mac/Windows/web. None of those other teams working on those features have have had the time (or the mandate) to coordinate with Linux engineers if they were building a separate app from scratch, and I suspect such a proposal would never have gotten off the ground.
lucideer 3 hours ago
I work in a large corp, I know how these things work - my company has taken longer to do simpler things than this. My observation wasn't to call this out as unusual or unexpected.
I think you've summarised it really well, & it shows:
- the revolutionary promises of AI-driven rapid delivery is nonsense when the delivery bottleneck was always elsewhere - AI is speeding up the part that was never slow
- the fact that - as you point out - it was likely working in Feb but needed a business case gives a good impression of the leadership's approach to Linux support: it's likely such internal case-making will continue to be a factor in future Linux build maintained
paxys an hour ago
It’s only remarkable if they actually took 6 months of engineering effort to build this. It’s more likely that it just never got prioritized.
yokoprime 10 hours ago
Wonder how many will bother using the desktop version on linux. Im on macos and i just use the CLI most of the time
jrflo 6 hours ago
The desktop app is actually really good (esp on macos). I used to be CLI only, but after trying it recently it's super convenient. Much easier to manage multiple projects simultaneously and it has a built in diff viewer, file browser/reader, terminal, side chat interface, etc.
xbmcuser 11 hours ago
well this just shows how good the AI is at programming
sh34r 6 hours ago
The most remarkable thing is that it was built at all. What self-respecting Linux desktop user wouldn’t be satisfied with the TUI?
It is a marketing expense. We are talking about it. Surely the token cost was worthwhile on that basis alone. Students will likely get some usage out of it, too. But paying a human to do this port would have been an insane thing to do two years ago. I’d be surprised if they have more than 1000 MAUs for this client by the end of the year.
headrick 9 hours ago
How are you doing testing for desktop apps? any tool recommendation?
Muromec 11 hours ago
Corporate it is a scam pretending to be a job creation program to make sure people dont get funny ideas
bibimsz 8 hours ago
i doubt the UI was the hard part. these desktop apps are about computer use. thats where the tricky bits are.
sonu27 10 hours ago
6 months is way too long IMHO
miguel-muniz 7 hours ago
Unrelated to this Linux release but I've been using the new ChatGPT desktop app since I annoying updated on accident, and I haven't had that great of an experience.
I previously really enjoyed the Codex app. It was easy for me to understand and find what I needed. The conversation view provided the right amount of information without feeling too concise or full of jargon and the typographic hierarchy made it easy to skim. The project based workflow made sense for my needs.
Ever since they combined all ChatGPT into one app though it has become a mess. It's trying to do too much in one. The settings menu is especially bloated, and I find the UI to be too complicated for the simple questions I'm asking outside of development work. I would rather just use the web interface for general use at this point. They've also been updating much of the UI to follow the same patterns as Claude, and I've not been impressed with the Claude desktop app.
To me, they are taking multiple steps backwards. I hope they eventually find their way again.
wuliwong 3 hours ago
My biggest gripe is now anytime I open a new session it hangs and I see the beachball spinner (mac) for a while before I can actually use the app again. It's pretty brutal.
torh 15 hours ago
FYI; This link shows Codex based on your current OS. I get a norwegian landing page with a download link for Windows.
Gareth321 14 hours ago
Same. I was quite confused. [This page](https://learn.chatgpt.com/docs/app) offers the Linux download link if anyone is interested.
23qsGa1 10 hours ago
The testimonials at the bottom are all from AI companies.
Linux users are kind of averse to trojans. You should call it Back Orifice For Linux. You don't even have to change the OpenAI logo!
Beijinger 6 hours ago
Not sure what I should see under the Link provided. Here is another one:
https://community.openai.com/t/codex-in-chatgpt-desktop-app-...
"The desktop app is designed as a workspace for managing projects, working with files, using browser workflows, and running Codex alongside ChatGPT."
Not sure if I really understand this. And somehow I am worried about ChatGPT having access to my files and workflows. How much control do I have?
VCFundedGenYer 9 hours ago
Nobody should be installing or using AI apps. Your browser is as far as they should go.
Reminder that the macOS app went from "this is fairly well made" to "it downloads multiple gigabytes of random things and doesn't follow any design conventions nor standards"
The Linux app will fail the same tests.
eatsyourtacos 3 hours ago
Uhh.. you can't do what codex/claude can do from a browser. Are you this out of the loop?
eimrine 3 hours ago
Copying webpages with no advanced knowledge? I really can not do this in any other ais except google.
ninkendo 8 hours ago
Sitting at 2.2GB of combined resident RAM across 11 processes. I haven't done a single query yet.
geodel 8 hours ago
But you might. And Codex is taking your threats seriously and stand prepared in case you breach protocol and start using your computer resources for your own nefarious purpose.
These apps stands as last defense between users and legitimate owners of compute resources that is electron and pals.
reaperducer 4 hours ago
Sitting at 2.2GB of combined resident RAM across 11 processes. I haven't done a single query yet.
Surely they can just vibe is down to a reasonable footprint, right? Right?
ChadNauseam 4 hours ago
Is this a linux issue? My Macbook has 16gb ram and running out has literally never been an issue for me. I'm using all of it + 10gb of swap and my computer feels snappy and fast. Chrome with 100+ tabs, discord, slack, codex, chatgpt, all running simultaneously with no issues. Sure, all other things being equal less RAM usage is better, but I can understand why reducing it isn't a priority for them.
alightsoul 2 hours ago
The OS doesn't matter here. The problem is that it's an electron app, hence it has high ram usage
Kinrany 10 hours ago
I wonder why operating systems aren't integrating with browsers more.
alightsoul 2 hours ago
Chromebooks do this and people avoid them
jtrn 5 hours ago
So much negativity... I like the desktop app and am looking forward to testing it out.
moronicles 4 hours ago
Remote alone makes the desktop app worth it.
danmaz74 3 hours ago
I've been using it to vibe code a personal application while I'm using a more "powerful" setup for my main agent assisted coding, and I have to say that it's been very good so far. I just wished that it was easier to hand off some tasks to codex web, like I tried to do today as I was starting a boat trip.
cloudie78 13 hours ago
Reminder to everyone, treat these as trojans. Run them isolated from the rest of your system.
Give it a full desktop in a VM if you want to, just not direct access to your system.
debazel 11 hours ago
And that's not a joke, I made the mistake of installing this on my Windows machine just to test it out quickly last week.
It created 2 new users and then assigned new NTFS permissions for every single file under my user directory to them. This of course wrecked havoc, ssh refused to work, several applications refusing to start and a ton of permission errors. It did this without even a warning in the background and it also does not undo any of it when you uninstall it.
It took around 3 hours to fix it by updating ~10 million NTFS permissions for every single file under my user directory.
takoid 9 hours ago
I would love to see your prompt(s) and how you managed to make it do this.
I’ve been using Codex in full access mode constantly for the past couple months on a Pro plan and I haven’t had a single incident like this. I’ve used it across macOS, Linux, and Windows as well, so my usage isn’t limited to a specific setup either.
debazel 9 hours ago
Stagnant 7 hours ago
HumblyTossed 9 hours ago
TacticalCoder 7 hours ago
semyonsh 10 hours ago
At that point I'd rather re-install the whole machine. Beats 3 hours of wrangling NTFS permissions and inheritance.
nehal3m 10 hours ago
kaycey2022 7 hours ago
I've been using GPT through opencode for quite some time on linux. I have had a great time with getting it to help me through computer use and it has been a game changer for me.
For instance recently, media downloads on my NAS became quite a bit slower. I asked it to investigate and it quickly got back to me saying the issue was the ethernet link had been downgraded to 100Mbps from 1Gbps. It even went through journalctl to tell me when this had happened. To fix it I just had to plug an ethernet cable out and back in. Now this is the kind of thing, earlier I would have to spend an evening on. But given an open system like Linux, a well made safe model just makes it so much more accessible than having to RTFM for one off things I am sure to forget in a month.
I dont really let it run loose through my systems, and keep an eye on the thinking traces it puts out and the permissions it asks for. But now I dont have to slog through manuals and deal with gruff people on the internet. I can choose to do so after the fact, depending on how much free time and curiosity I have.
nnevatie 9 hours ago
Was the prompt "fuck up my system, please." or how did you manage this? I've used Codex for ages without any of these kinds of issues.
debazel 9 hours ago
TaupeRanger 10 hours ago
Skill issue honestly
c7b 9 hours ago
robbru 9 hours ago
Freaking wow.
pjmlp 11 hours ago
With exception of VSCode, because I have no choice due to some plugins, or apps required by customer projects where I have no other option as well, nothing else based on Electron pollutes my computers.
cloudie78 10 hours ago
You always have a choice to use/learn/make a different tool.
It’s a prison of your own making.
I’ve personally adopted a process where I structure my projects to ALWAYS keep credentials and sensitive information in a separate directory.
The working copy gets rsynced to and from a dedicated VM with whatever $HARNESS.
pjmlp 10 hours ago
HumblyTossed 9 hours ago
p-e-w 10 hours ago
fragmede 12 hours ago
How do I get it to fix my Bluetooth if I do that? If you've been AI-pilled, 2026 is the year of Linux desktop because instead of dicking around with config files, I can just tell AI to fix python.
matheusmoreira 11 hours ago
> How do I get it to fix my Bluetooth if I do that?
Manual tool calls. I ask AI to give me all the necessary reconnaissance commands, then I run them myself on the host and paste the output on the terminal with the SSH connection into the guest virtual machine where the harness is running. The AI then either figures it out and gives me the answer or runs additional tool calls by me. Repeat until annoying task is done, interrupt if anything suspicious shows up at any point.
Muromec 7 hours ago
cloudie78 10 hours ago
If you want to be security conscious don’t give it access to your system directly. Ask it to guide you through the information gathering part of the problem solving process and use your brain and judgment if it actually needs the information/data it’s attempting to access.
If you can’t make that judgement call because of lack of knowledge/familiarity it’s okay - spawn a new fresh chat, get up to speed on the topic first and then resume.
That way you accomplish three things: you learn something new, you fix your problem and you don’t let a Trojan do whatever the hell it wants to your box which among other thing contains all the browser sessions and cookies :)
rawland 12 hours ago
pi.dev, local model, (RAG-ed) copy of archwiki. You are more able than you believe. Already now, no permission needed.
couscouspie 12 hours ago
embedding-shape 12 hours ago
trvz 12 hours ago
jwrallie 12 hours ago
Bluetooth is the one thing I had problems in the past on GNU/Linux, Windows, macOS, Android and iOS. Linux is the only mentioned platform where you could technically give Codex root and let it fix it :)
I guess OpenBSD is the only OS where I never had any problem with Bluetooth audio.
nope1000 9 hours ago
Recently I had some crashes on my system and claude correctly diagnosed it to a broken SATA cable on my hard drive. That was really practical
ac29 8 hours ago
I haven't had bluetooth issues in years, but I did have an agent reverse engineer a smartphone app that was required for programming some BT headphones. Now I can push my desired runtime settings automatically to the headphones when they connect to my computer
So, yes, I would say agents are pretty good at working with Bluetooth on Linux
Muromec 11 hours ago
My bluetooth jusy works actually. By the way I use arch
dml2135 11 hours ago
Use NixOS, only give your model access to the config in a git repo, zero access to the actual host machine.
stcg 10 hours ago
cyanydeez 12 hours ago
I just use a local model; its too dumb to hack into NSA just to fix my bluetooth.
perching_aix 13 hours ago
They ship with their own sandboxing by default, and Codex specifically is open source.
rawland 12 hours ago
I’d wait. Remember when Chromium downloaded and installed binary blobs.
Also in the news: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/08/expa...
"The American private sector is the most innovative and
technologically advanced in the world, and its scale,
speed, and capacity secure a critical offensive cyber
advantage for the United States."embedding-shape 12 hours ago
> and Codex specifically is open source.
Since we now have three "Codex"es, I think it's worth specifying you're talking about codex-cli/tui. Codex the hosted version and Codex the GUI are both fully proprietary I think (besides the codex-cli/tui parts they use, I'm guessing mainly the app-server stuff).
wahnfrieden 12 hours ago
This app is NOT open source
avazhi 11 hours ago
Is this the same thing that broke out of the sandbox and into HuggingFace?
Or we are just assuming that was a PR stunt, which it almost certainly was.
Either way, this shit isn’t getting near my system.
perching_aix 10 hours ago
badcafe23423435 12 hours ago
if it is open source why no exist any fork? why I can remove openai model default from instalation?
orsenthil 6 hours ago
Congrats on supporting Linux. It makes the ecosystem more rich. Hope they will continue to maintain it and provide parity support.
delduca 7 hours ago
On macOS, the version made for Apple Silicon in Swift was abandoned (now it called ChatGPT-classic until they decide to kill it) to this garbage in Electron.
runtime_lens 10 hours ago
The permission prompts after asking it to touch only 3 files are more concerning to me than Electron itself. An agent that can expand its access scope that easily needs a much clearer capability boundary, especially on a desktop where the user’s files are the real sandbox.
dankobgd 10 hours ago
so instead of using a browser, now i can use an app that is a browser. makes total sense
AdriaanvRossum 8 hours ago
I find it almost funny how hostile the response is when a company actually goes through the effort of supporting Linux. Apparently shipping the Linux version is only step one, you also need to pick the right framework, use the right packaging, consume the right amount of RAM, and preferably rewrite it natively.
krelian 8 hours ago
HN comment quality took a nosedive recently, You can predict the comments just based on the story, almost all of them cynical and snarky remarks. It used to be a place to come and learn from technical experts.
crims0n 7 hours ago
I don't have evidence for this, but I suspect a lot of it is Reddit refugees.
runarberg 5 hours ago
We live in an era where companies are increasingly hostile towards their users and society at large. Where regulation has been stripped or ignored to maximize the profits of a handful of monopolies, where companies don‘t even have to pretend to care about their customers anymore, nor the usability of their product. Seemingly companies don‘t even bother to test their products anymore before selling it to their customers. And companies that engage in the most consumer hostile behavior are the ones who are most rewarded for that behavior.
I think this cynicism is more then warranted. If anything HN is not cynical enough to meet the times we are in.
2afTq 7 hours ago
The AI boosters have driven away all experts. They are either financially invested or mindless power users on the level of the proverbial MacOS fanboys.
Experts related to real programming topics are gone or silent. AI experts have never even been here in the first place. It is all about Electron apps, prompts, agents and other bullshit.
joquarky 6 hours ago
lemagedurage 8 hours ago
A challenge of releasing tech on a platform of people that are picky about tech.
2afTq 7 hours ago
Spinning this as a generous Linux port misses the elephant in the room: This is spyware that drags your system down to the level of Windows.
TacticalCoder 7 hours ago
> I find it almost funny how hostile the response is when a company actually goes through the effort of supporting Linux.
How magnanimous: they make the effort to support the OS their entire company is based on? It's not just for training the model and hosting them: it's also to run them, where they constantly use Linux to do their thing.
Without Linux, there's no OpenAI.
So I take it the Linux community should be so grateful that OpenAI supports Linux, right?
tredre3 6 hours ago
> Without Linux, there's no OpenAI.
They use Linux because it's there. If Linux wasn't there, they'd use what's there. There is nothing about Linux that makes it unique enough to be make or break OpenAI. Not one thing.
And yes, when a company distributes their app for the Linux desktop, we should be grateful or at the very least not hostile.
The attitude of Linux zealots is honestly tiresome and it makes us all look bad.
qw1238z 2 hours ago
givinguflac 8 hours ago
It’s almost like we Linux users are opinionated about software. Weird. /s
OsrsNeedsf2P 12 hours ago
I'd love to see the stats on how many Linux users want this. Most Linux usage probably comes from WSL/SSH'ing into servers, where they would use the CLI instead of a GUI. Even for the people who run Linux on the desktop, most probably prefer the terminal anyways
left-struck 10 hours ago
While it may not be the majority of Linux usage, there’s a pretty big uptake in Linux desktop these days, and there millions of people actively using Linux desktop distros
TZubiri 9 hours ago
It'd be nice for sending prompts from phone, although it is a whole lot of bloat for just that feature. Par for the course for the AI era, in order to do a thing first you must import the universe.
telotortium 8 hours ago
That was already supported from your phone by using SSH, using the app server feature of the Codex CLI. The Codex desktop app is more for computer use, browser control, and the UI paradigm of GUI, which is overall just richer and better than a TUI, albeit more heavyweight.
TZubiri 7 hours ago
ddxv 12 hours ago
I think these styles of apps will be popular for OpenAI and Anthropic as they help solve some of their moat issues. The deeper you integrate someone's files into their app, the harder it will be to switch AIs
cyanydeez 12 hours ago
ok, but you know these things are marketed as super products; it's pretty easy for me to use a local model to scale up almost any project on github. Why would this be an effective moat beyond "I use codex too!!"
motbus3 10 hours ago
If gpt is so great as they say, why aren't they using their own operating system yet? They have all the resources they need to prove a point
hk__2 8 hours ago
Because it would be stupid to do so?
mentos 9 hours ago
I’ve got a long running chat in the Windows app that becomes completely unresponsive for minutes on end. Complete travesty.
bloqs 9 hours ago
Why would I use this over browser version or CLI
cl3misch 9 hours ago
I prefer the CLI myself, but I could imagine:
- nicer diff rendering, and directly mentioning parts of a diff
- Latex rendering (pretty annoying in the CLI, you have to actively tell Codex it's running in a terminal and replace Latex syntax with UTF-8 glyphs)
yonatan8070 9 hours ago
Probably ecause OpenAI wants training data from PCs of people who are scared of CLIs as well
cmrdporcupine 8 hours ago
As others have said, there's all sorts of things an HTML renderer can do better than terminal: proper (not hacked) image handling on both input and output, rendering graphical results, graphs, better code highlighting and diffs, interactive elements, etc. But one thing that strikes me as especially important: a proper accessibility story with magnification, screen reader, TTS etc.
All the stuff people are hacking into TUIs is honestly a bit silly, they're actually very inefficient for high fidelity UIs. Having worked in it and on it before while @ GOOG, the actual renderer in Chromium is an optimized thing of beauty. It really makes sense to leverage it. Appropriately.
But all of the above could (should) be done as a locally hosted web page via the existing codex CLI launching a local web server... rather than shipping an electron binary with its own entire fork of Chromium.
VortexLain 11 hours ago
Heads up: unlike Codex CLI, Codex Desktop is proprietary, and thus can't be audited for Claude Code style hidden anti-user behavior.
fg137 11 hours ago
A real issue we have run into is that "computer use" features, which is absolutely a big no-no at our company, can be enabled with a single click, and we cannot configure that.
DefamationStati 4 hours ago
Finally! My shitbox Surface 8 pro that's running Debian will be pleased.
wewewedxfgdf 10 hours ago
Why would they write this in electron instead of something closer to the metal I thought this is the whole point of AI.
luca-ctx 5 hours ago
I made something similar using Tauri but there were visual inconsistencies between platforms thanks to webkit. At the time I remember thinking I wish I had used electron to buy cross platform parity.
And I experimented with gpui from zed, that was even harder to work with.
Of course they could chase performance, but ultimately time to market is the #1 factor right now, and coding agents still aren't good enough to just immediately realize an entire GPUI app from scratch with nothing more than a figma design. Still requires a ton of oversight.
prmoustache 3 hours ago
> visual inconsistencies between platforms
Why do you care? If I chose platform X over Z, that is potentially because I like the visual particularities of this platform.
super256 5 hours ago
It's built on OWL, which is their own Chromium integration. It's not electron.
Seems pretty solid for Mac, but idk about Windows and Linux.
jampekka 5 hours ago
Because electron gets shit done? Aside the memory usage, electron/browser based applications of any complexity tend to be better and develop a lot faster.
sdevonoes 5 hours ago
Users don’t like shit, though.
justmedep 5 hours ago
More testing you still need good engineers for every native platform if you go native. We all know that AI in the hands of incompetent people is bad.
micheles 11 hours ago
I am unable use non-CLI tools, so I don't care about this app. However, I have a question about codex CLI: currently I am using pi agent and I am happy with it, using codex CLI would give me some advantage?
satvikpendem 10 hours ago
You're unable to use non CLI tools? How do you interact with the Internet then?
micheles 9 hours ago
I don't consider the browser a tool.
satvikpendem 32 minutes ago
csymes 10 hours ago
Didn't you hear, it's the year of lynx
TekMol 12 hours ago
Does this mean it is possible to talk to Codex from ChatGPT on a mobile phone now?
When I tried that with the Codex CLI version on a Linux VM, I did not get it to work. Possibly because OpenAI only supports connecting ChatGPT to a desktop installation of Codex?
preek 12 hours ago
I have a codex cli instance on a Debian VM connected to ChatGPT on iOS via SSH. That works since.. about a month and has pretty good UX. Before, I used the shellfish terminal and tmux which also worked really good, but to be honest (even though I'm a big terminal fan), ChatGPT on iOS sometimes has a smoother UX than a terminal.
TekMol 11 hours ago
Are you sure ChatGPT on IOS connects directly to the VM? Or via a desktop as the middle man sitting somewhere?
If you really only use ChatGPT on IOS and a VM and nothing else, then I would be curious how you set that up. I do not see a "connect to codex via ssh" in my ChatGPT app. I only see "Connect to a desktop".
Oh HOLY MOLY! Now I see there is not only a "Remote" section in the app but also a "Connection" section where you can add an ssh connection. I need to try that.
Thanks!
preek 8 hours ago
mbrock 11 hours ago
btibor91 10 hours ago
More details here: https://learn.chatgpt.com/docs/linux/linux-app
Artoooooor 8 hours ago
About the damn time. Couldn't they vibe code the Linux version using the same very tool from the day one?
yodamus 8 hours ago
Does this mean it's a matter of time until I can deploy codex on my raspberry pi now?
nateb2022 8 hours ago
Codex CLI should have been usable for a while now, and you could also sign in to your ChatGPT subscription using Opencode which runs perfectly fine on a Raspberry Pi.
ljlolel 5 hours ago
that’s why i made a clone of macos libraries to compile SwiftUI to linux to make something like this faster (for non Electron!)
healthycoder 10 hours ago
Why is this written in electron?
fassssst 8 hours ago
It has a full web browser in it
pjmlp 8 hours ago
Because apparently ChatGPT is not able to generate native apps, so desktop developers are safe. /s
manupati 13 hours ago
Download it a few hours ago. I've been waiting a long time for linux and it is working fine in debian kvm via X11
fectjtfs 5 hours ago
OpenAI: With AI, you can build really good apps, really quickly! Fire your devs!
Also OpenAI: Aight look, Electron is the best that we can do at this point, take it or leave it.
If this isn’t enough to convince you how little truth there is in everything these companies claim, then you have been brainwashed entirely already.
Why aren’t we getting quality native apps on all platforms, released simultaneously, if these AI code monkeys are THAT good? Where are all these amazing experiences built with AI that these guys keep promising?
I guess an Electron monstrosity is about as far as it can go.
Learn from this, internet. (I know none of you will, but doesn’t hurt to call a bit of attention to it)
lrvick 11 hours ago
Are there really daily driver Linux users that want to run a proprietary gui based LLM solution that Sam Altman gets to keylog AND have full remote code execution on their system? This feels like trolling.
Meanwhile I am looking at a Crush client running beside neovim in a herdr session I am accessing via ssh to a machine in my garage with 4 local GPUs. I think we Linux users have got this without Sams help.
meerita 12 hours ago
What's the benefit of working with this app, which eats insane amounts of memory, instead of Codex CLI?
fg137 11 hours ago
Outside Linux, on Windows/Mac, plenty of non developers much prefer the "desktop UI" experience over CLI. Some can't work with CLIs at all.
Even with Linux, there are more people -- including many non software engineers -- that are installing Linux on their home computers and may be interested in this.
Bear in mind that HN users don't remotely resemble the general population, or even employees at a tech company -- there are lots of people in finance, business, legal etc who could potentially benefit from this.
scott01 10 hours ago
I’m a developer, daily driving Linux, and prefer GUI apps. Would’ve used Sublime Text if clangd plugin worked. Hence stuck with Emacs. Open Code GUI sucks compared to their TUI though.
ekzy 8 hours ago
I prefer the CLI but the remote control with the phone app only works with the phone AFAIK, so that’s the only reason I use it.
yokoprime 10 hours ago
i sometimes find myself using the desktop app on macos, but the CLI just clicks more with how i think and its more flexible too.
PunchyHamster 10 hours ago
Can we instead replace them with LLM ? Surely it woudl be much easier
LiamPowell 11 hours ago
Latex rendering, inline images, inline browser showing what it's clicking on, being able to view a spreadsheet and then select a region to reference in the conversation, clickable links when it references a specific line number with mouse-over previews, interactive inline visualisations.
There's probably more I don't remember too. In my opinion TUI apps are just silly. You don't get any of the advantages of it being just plain text because it's all wrapped in funny Unicode characters and at the same time the GUI capabilities are hamstrung by being text on a grid.
jampekka 5 hours ago
I'm on codex TUI because the GUI options (and browser) slow to a crawl with long sessions, especially if they have math rendered.
skandinaff 11 hours ago
With claude, the difference I noticed is that you can run their cloud enviroment from GUI app, as well as connect to remote machine. Sure, remote connection is nothing interesting, but I'm not aware if claude cli can work with cloud based enviroment. Also claude design is alvaliable on claude gui app. But all of these can be accessed with the browser as well, only the local machine access is something that browser version doesn't have. But for that you can use cli... Really mess of the tools they are shipping. Waiting (not) for Claude/Openai OS
geysersam 6 hours ago
I think one advantage is that you can control it remotely via the chatgpt mobile app. I don't know why they don't allow that for regular codex...
CuriouslyC 11 hours ago
I use it on my macbook. The computer use is pretty sweet.
It can be controlled from your phone once paired, and it lets you actually see agents that it orchestrates in the threads. Also if you use MCP Apps, it can integrate those into threads.
ComputerPerson 12 hours ago
I'm only familiar with the Anthropic equivalent, but the cognitive load is different as opposed to necessarily better or worse. I have friends who prefer mousing around the UI.
Tabs for long-running often-compacted sessions is a difference I've noticed in emergent UX.
meerita 12 hours ago
I use Claude Code CLI, Codex Cli. Both are really good, they don't eat memory like the GUI apps.
ComputerPerson 12 hours ago
orphea 12 hours ago
Adequate text editing is the main one for me.
TZubiri 9 hours ago
I think you can connect your phone and talk to codex remotely, so you can run programming prompts while afk
someplaceguy 9 hours ago
You can do that with the Codex CLI/TUI as well.
PunchTornado 12 hours ago
does the app eat more money that codex cli? I mean is there a difference in cost in asking via the app something vs the cli?
auggierose 12 hours ago
Does this mean that ChatGPT Desktop will run now also on Intel Macs?
manishsharan 7 hours ago
An often overlooked advantage of Electron based apps is they can convert any older version of laptop into a nice toaster oven.
This is fantastic as I can toast or reheat my frozen waffles on the same machine which is also running a agentic loop on codex desktop to cook my software.
whalesalad 8 hours ago
Glad to see a .rpm, Claude only publishes a .deb.
Havoc 12 hours ago
Much prefer CLI because its easier to isolate
catigula 5 hours ago
Everybody is irritated about electron, but that's not at all the problem. It's possible to write performant and optimized react code. They simply don't. I find the chatgpt app on Windows to be extremely laggy.
quotemstr 5 hours ago
Electron is just another god damn GUI toolkit! What's the fundamental difference between it and, say, GTK4? It's just fucking widgets!
My real problem with Electron is the multi-process render architecture, which I think is pointless for the "just a GUI toolkit" case of rendering only trusted content. I'm 100% fine with Slack, Spotify, whatever using Electron as their choice of GUI toolkits. These come and go. I'm miffed that they use multiple processes when there's no real security boundary between them just because there is a security boundary in the homologous scenario on the web.
ksimukka 12 hours ago
oh Electron, leave my ram alone.
u8 7 hours ago
I don't think its asking too much of a $1T company to not make a shitty desktop app. Especially when that companies whole moat with developers is that their tools can do our jobs better and faster.
The real reason they're using Electron is that some PM is comfortable with it and since nobody is reading the code, they use that comfort as a crutch to release most-likely working desktop app.
When the creator of a project has infinite money, infinite labor, and infinite incentive to lock more devs into their platform via skill atrophy and the product is still shit, that's the human in the loop.
arthurfirst 9 hours ago
If you are using linux and cannot use a console to code...
badcafe23423435 12 hours ago
Why not create a separate account on Linux just for the agent? This security measure should also be enabled by default. Many packages REQUIRE the creation of an account, but agents do not. Interesting.
TZubiri 9 hours ago
You can definitely do that, but it is your duty and it cannot be delegated.
Also these things are supposed to help you, their idea is that you give it access and it's helpful proportional to the access you give it. A separate user works for some, especially when vibecoding, you whitelist accesses. But for general computer usage, an assistant that has access to your files and acts as a sort of OS needs your user access.
hn0tdqaek4 8 hours ago
Not perfect but a good starting point
varjag 11 hours ago
Is there anything it can do that Codex CLI can't?
indy 10 hours ago
it can consume more of your RAM
johnnyApplePRNG 5 hours ago
Meh...
Codex messing around with the usage limits so much these past few months have convinced me to exit my $200/month burden and pick up Pi Coding Agent and Deepseek V4 Flash 0731.
It's incredible what you can do with subagents that you design yourself.
Liberating, really.
tiberriver256 10 hours ago
This is how I get ChatGPT on Windows to not absolutely suck.
Can just install it in WSL now and it's got buttery smooth performance vs. the Windows version
I blame AV hooks
fassssst 8 hours ago
On Windows you definitely want to exclude your code directories from AV and use a dev drive
linzhangrun 12 hours ago
I tried it yesterday. The experience seems smoother than on Windows. I hope Computer Use will be added soon. Also, when will OpenAI fix the issue where Xhigh and Ultra are both translated as “极高” in Chinese? It’s been this way for quite some time. As far as I know, the proportion of Chinese employees at these Silicon Valley AI companies is quite high.
SweetSoftPillow 12 hours ago
You have "send feedback" button in the app. Something tells me that it's much better place to report issues with the app rather than comment section on unrelated website.
schafberg 12 hours ago
I think their backend data probably shows that very few Chinese users are using Codex through the official way, and the number of those who have switched to the Chinese interface is even smaller, so there’s not much incentive to fix this issue.
linzhangrun 12 hours ago
I don’t think GPT-5.6 would make such a basic mistake when reviewing CodeX itself.
djyde 11 hours ago
Because all Chinese users must use a VPN to access Codex.
wltr 15 hours ago
If that’s an Electron app, what’s the difference with running it in the browser?
lwansbrough 14 hours ago
Access to your computer
JPLeRouzic 14 hours ago
That's why I won't download that tool.
tristanj 14 hours ago
Gareth321 14 hours ago
fsflover 12 hours ago
SillyUsername 14 hours ago
None that I can see - I already have it installed as a chrome app on my Mint desktop, and it seems identical.
martin- 14 hours ago
Does the Chrome app have access to your local files, like when you're working on a code project?
fg137 11 hours ago
water-drummer 14 hours ago
Why do you need nodejs if you can run javascript in the browser?
shevy-java 7 hours ago
I can't answer that question, but I think you can do more with node than with default javascript, such as access to local files. This is something I wanted javascript to do for local use and people always said "you may not do this, your computer will be destroyed". So I just use ruby instead and am still annoyed that javascript is so crippled by default at all times.
shevy-java 13 hours ago
Do people really use that? It seems horrible to turn your computer into a spydevice for AI slop spammers.
villgax 15 hours ago
people good w/ linux would not have been holding their breath for companies which keep intelligence for a premium & h0st@ge depending on policy
0xB0D 12 hours ago
Plague of AI slop.
A senior engineer in an Open Source project told me "I haven't looked at code in months"
In which case what TF is it you even do ?
trashface 2 hours ago
Does openai still require a biometric check to use any model more recent than GPT 4? If so, I imagine that will be an impediment for the typical person who runs linux.