Why it might be time to rethink the human family tree (nautil.us)

33 points by Anon84 2 days ago

contingencies 23 minutes ago

Clearly Homo idiotensis here is incapable of cultivating a factual ontology that would place it below the 'great apes' as the type species amongst amongst the 'asshole apes'.

mmooss an hour ago

Here's the paper:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC13485234/

Towle I. Clades, Grades, and the Genus Problem: A Case for Revising Hominin Taxonomy. Am J Biol Anthropol. 2026 Aug;190(4):e70344. doi: 10.1002/ajpa.70344. PMID: 42612121; PMCID: PMC13485234.

mmooss 41 minutes ago

To me, the choices of names for clades seem like madness:

All apes (superfamily): Hominoidea; great apes (family): Hominidae; African great apes (subfamily): Homininae; Pan‐Homo clade (tribe): Hominini; human clade (subtribe): Hominina. [0]

The potential for error seems enormous, and also imagine speaking those words without creating confusion, or try forming singulars and possessives that, in text and speech, unambiguously identify the clade.

Can anyone on the inside shed insight on why they do this to themselves, and to everyone else who has even less understanding? Is it self-hate? Imagine a large codebase that named variables like that - there would be a lynching late one night when the bug was found to be confusion.

Despite my reaction, I guess there is some good reason that all these smart, experienced people make this choice.

[0] From the paper the OP describes: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC13485234/

m3047 2 days ago

Research is coming out specifically regarding the COVID genome which suggests missing sequence data was routinely filled in from baseline reference sequences. In turn, the reference sequences suggest during later analysis constant reversion back to the baseline. These gaps are the (dot) product of limitations of PCR * computer processing algorithms. No reason to believe the problem is limited to COVID.

BigTTYGothGF 2 hours ago

I haven't heard anything about this, could you drop a couple references?

trollbridge 2 hours ago

Does this explain the conspiracy theories about “insertions”? When I looked into it, many other virus species had similar “insertions” - the problem seeming to be the sequencing itself not being accurate (as opposed to every viral disease being cooked up in a lab for the last 5,000 years)

lolokbro an hour ago

The races roughly correspond to long-term biomes along longitudinal regions, meaning there are multiple races of black, white, and brown respectively.

There are Slavic white, who are in the same vertical slice (roughly, around water) as Arab brown and Ethiopian black, genetically.

Then there are western African black along another band that are closer to Irish and Scottish than some other black people.

There are white, black, and brown East Asians - the whole spectrum from North Korea and Japan down to Malaysia, Vietnam, and Samoan.

It’s not as simple as black, white, brown - this spectrum emerged multiple times in our evolution mostly due to climate patterns and differences in coastal vs inland, and cave vs outdoor, living conditions that relate to the weather.

Any large vertical region we inhabited in ancient times, with dark cold places in the north and hot sunny places along the equator with coastal and inland options, a racial spectrum like that would emerge over time.

gradus_ad 32 minutes ago

So you're saying dark skinned people reside in the south and lighter skinned people predominate in the north?

messe an hour ago

What does this have to do with the article?