Evidence of Fraud in an Influential Study About Procrastination (datacolada.org)

89 points by Anon84 4 hours ago

Aurornis 3 hours ago

Dan Ariely has a long history of controversies and studies with falsified data. He wrote 3 popular books and gained a lot of fame before others started uncovering the problems in his studies

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Ariely

It’s amazing that problems with his studies are still being uncovered. Equally amazing that Duke still maintains a relationship with him after so many problems have been identified with his research.

trompetenaccoun 2 hours ago

We'd find problems with many if not most published studies if we scutinized them the same way. People like him get discovered because they step out of their academic bubble into the light of the world stage.

And mind you this is psychology, the entire discipline is only borderline scientific anyway. But even studies in the hard sciences are very often flawed if not outright fabricated. Adjusting data sets to fit the desired result (who'd ever know as long as you do it properly), changing the experiment and measure until they get what they they want, repeated measuring until the "right" data for the paper appeared randomly - those are all things I personally observed in the lab.

Not to even get started on the house of cards that is basing ones flawed assumptions on other flawed studies without even the slightest attempt at replicating their results first. It's standard practice to simply presume what's been published (especially by friendly authors) can be regarded as reliable.

tyrabound an hour ago

It is still seared into my mind when a PhD openly stated in a meeting once that she likes to draw the graphs she needs for her papers and then goes looking for the data she needs to support it. I’m sure I can imaging what kind of looking she did based on the fact that she was little more than a slick, fast talking, skin revealing, fast moving, usual suspect con man.

onemoresoop 2 hours ago

Reminds me of Francesca Gino for data fabrication. She was also a best seller of sorts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francesca_Gino

dgacmu 2 hours ago

It should - one of the papers that Data Colada reported on about Gino was co-authored with Dan Ariely: https://datacolada.org/98

khy 2 hours ago

fn-mote 2 hours ago

For your amusement, from the post:

> a week after Francesca Gino sued us for $25 million […]

onemoresoop 2 hours ago

paimapi 2 hours ago

> It revealed that Ariely had a longstanding relationship with Epstein, including having visited him at his New York home on several occasions.[45] One of the documents is an image of an email from Ariely to Epstein, in which he requests the name and email of a "redhead" that Epstein had previously introduced to him

I mean, I've always consigned 100% of NYT self help slop to the bin of books for people who aren't smart but desperately want to seem like they but this is just a little much now, Dan

p-e-w 3 hours ago

> In 2006, when he was a professor at the MIT Media Lab, Ariely conducted experiments including administering electric shocks with a research assistant who had no human–subject training. […] Ariely confirmed this and said that he wasn't aware that the research assistant did not have the needed one-hour online human–subject training.

A one-hour online training is all that’s needed to be considered ready to conduct experiments involving things like electric shocks on human subjects?

Forget about this guy, the entire field needs to be burned to the ground and rebuilt from scratch.

han-tyumi an hour ago

I would not make such a harsh judgment just because electric shocks are involved.

During my master’s I took a class at the Media Lab called Human 2.0 on prostheses, orthoses, exoskeletons, and human augmentation. Unsurprisingly, all student final projects involved some form of human experimentation.

To run our final project’s experiments, we had to complete a few online modules on bioethics, first aid, and safe practices, as well as submit a proposal to the IRB. From what I saw across projects, the board applied appropriate scrutiny and made helpful contributions.

It classified our experiment as low risk, and a lot of care went into participant selection and adherence to the approved protocol, but they did not require any health professional to be present during the sessions.

Other projects, however, did require such support and even had some MIT Medical involvement.

Incidentally, my project also involved administering electrical shocks to subjects, albeit very mild ones (tACS to induce directed visual artifacts).

dpc050505 2 hours ago

Look up violet wands, you can shock humans with 0 training when it's a consensual hobby.

paytonjjones 2 hours ago

I don't know the details here but I am a psychologist.

The "electric shock" normally used in psych studies is tiny, it's like the equivalent of one of those little toy prank buzzers. You couldn't possibly hurt someone with it, this is really a non-issue.

Related side note: Electroconvulsive therapy uses much larger electric shocks but, administered safely by a clinic, is extremely safe, has relatively minor side effects compared to e.g. SSRIs, and is very effective for severe depression. It's a huge shame that it's undeserved reputation prevents it from being more popular. Blame "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" for its inaccurate portrayal.

nightpool 2 hours ago

Waterluvian 2 hours ago

lostlogin 2 hours ago

jnwatson 2 hours ago

"Ariely is named 636 times in the Epstein files".

Yikes.

Waterluvian 2 hours ago

Context matters. Otherwise we’re just being clowns.

KylerAce 2 hours ago

paimapi an hour ago

NDlurker 2 hours ago

iirc Epstein funded the media lab and had an office there

bawolff 3 hours ago

It does seem like its way too easy to do this kind of fraud.

The study seems extremely easy to replicate (no fancy equipment needed, just ask some people to proofread), and yet nobody did until now. Is there some way to change incentives to get people to try and replicate? Assign undergrads to replicate random research papers?

dbrans 2 hours ago

Replication is unpaid QA on someone else's product. Nobody gets tenure for finding the bug, hence the field has been meaning to get around to it for 20 years.

edgyquant 3 hours ago

Why do we even accept anything as true without replication by default?

EA-3167 3 hours ago

Why do people on this site love nutrition and self-medication fads?

People are surprisingly thoughtless.

argee 3 hours ago

vjulian 2 hours ago

jasonfarnon 36 minutes ago

"easy to replicate (no fancy equipment needed, just ask some people to proofread)"

? This was a human subject study, that would cost $$ and there would be very little upside to confirmation and only a little notoriety with a failure to replicate (which by the way is not dispositive, people might need multiple failed replications to know who to believe, depending on the size of the replication). Maybe you didn't read the post: this was data fraud discovered by statistical irregularities. That is indeed becoming easy to spot with more widespread statistical literacy, at least for unsophisticated jobs like this from decades ago.

p-e-w 3 hours ago

> Is there some way to change incentives to get people to try and replicate?

Sure. Pay them to do it.

tempestn 3 hours ago

If the culture shifted such that people were skeptical of original results but excited about replication, replication would be the big news and people would want to do it. How to get there, I don't know.

ChrisMarshallNY 2 hours ago

jasonfarnon an hour ago

qsera an hour ago

freediddy 2 hours ago

No paper should ever be referenced until it has been replicated by an independent group. The replication crisis in science is real, and it won't take long for no one to believe anything anymore.

Polizeiposaune 2 hours ago

That rule would make it difficult to report on a failure to replicate a published paper.

freediddy 2 hours ago

Every paper needs to include an independent replication of the study.

hirvi74 2 hours ago

Does some sort of batched style of research already exist? By batched, I mean a study where n number of teams all agree on a single methodology, and then conduct the same experiment simultaneously. Each team could then publish their results independently and the teams could publish one aggregate.

I know meta studies attempt to do this in a way, but they can sometimes have their own problems too.

I cannot recall coming across this style of research in much of what I have read as a hobby, but maybe it is more common in some domains than others? I am not smart, and there is nothing new under the Sun, so surely something like this exists, no?

alansaber 2 hours ago

In the physical sciences, any sufficiently important paper is independently verified. Sounds like cost/effort of these multi year studies is not faesible to replicate, but then again, I know nothing about social science so w/e

keyle 3 hours ago

I'm glad the authors seem to have acknowledged the problem and not doing much about it :-)

fn-mote 3 hours ago

Per the post, the original authors have requested that the original paper be retracted. That’s well above the bar of “not doing much”.

dash2 2 hours ago

Actually the post is ambiguous: did the authors want the original article retracted, or the replication by Hyndman and Bisin? I hope the former!

"Finally, it should be noted that when we shared these posts with Ariely and Wertenbroch a few weeks ago, they reached out to Psychological Science to request that the article be retracted. As of this writing, that process is ongoing."

fn-mote 2 hours ago

hnacct2001 3 hours ago

Having skimmed this article and the replication study itself (which references some studies that complicate our common understanding of the positive effects of deadlines) I’m left wondering what the constructive alternative is to deadlines and/or how deadlines should be maintained or determined.

bitwize 3 hours ago

There is no alternative to deadlines because time is money, and those downstream of you can ill afford to wait on your deliverables. Part of management's job is to determine how much time it should take so a reasonable timetable that stakeholders can agree to can be set, and then hold you accountable for delivering within that time frame.

I wish we could revive Tim Bryce's mind with AI, because I'd love to hear what he'd have to say in a podcast about this topic:

"Fraud in a procrastination study? You don't say! I don't understand why all this taxpayer money is going to study procrastination in the first place. Procrastination is a well-known phenomenon with a well-understood cause: laziness. Procrastinators didn't have a boot placed to their behinds growing up, so they reached adulthood slacking and coasting on their trust-fund money or couch-surfing at their friends' places, mooching off others. You see this a lot in modern software organizations, especially among the programmers. And now those programmers are all crying because they're about to get replaced by Claude Code. Boo hoo! The military knew how to deal with procrastinators, too: send them to scrub latrines with a toothbrush, and drum them out if they didn't shape up after that! We don't need millions of dollars in government grants going to academic research to study this phenomenon. It's as old as humanity itself—we called it the deadly sin of sloth. Friends, keep the faith!"

marcus_holmes 2 hours ago

You're basically replacing the label "procrastination" with the label "laziness" without understanding anything.

Are all people who postpone a task lazy?

What constitutes laziness? Can we define laziness?

Why are people lazy? Is laziness negative? Are there positive aspects to laziness? Why did we evolve laziness?

Are people consistently lazy, or are they only lazy in some areas of their lives?

Does scrubbing a toilet with a toothbrush actually reduce laziness? Are there other methods of reducing it?

What are the effects of reducing laziness? Are there emotional or physical penalties from reducing laziness?

Answering some of these would be useful. Just saying "everyone who procrastinates is lazy" is not.

atmavatar an hour ago

Fire-Dragon-DoL an hour ago

bluefirebrand 3 hours ago

> I wish we could revive Tim Bryce's mind with AI, because I'd love to hear what he'd have to say in a podcast about this topic:

If he's anything like how the rest of your post read, he sounds like a pretty awful person.

bitwize 2 hours ago

ProjectArcturis 3 hours ago

Dan Ariely remaining at Duke, after it has become clear that much if not most of his work is fraudulent, is at least as big a black mark for Duke as Jason Arday was for Cambridge.

Not to mention the Epstein ties.

FiddlyPack 3 hours ago

Dan Ariely was one of the biggest disappointments and betrayals of my intellectual life. I found the "research" he did to be mind-blowing, groundbreaking stuff at the time, and I told many people his work, sharing his papers and podcasts as a true enthusiast.

I am astonished that he holds an academic-adjacent position anywhere, no matter what his regrets might be today. Private redemption shouldn't be out of reach, but it shouldn't be possible for him to hold a position at any institution concerned with uncovering Truth. He should have resigned out of respect, if his institution was too gutless to do so. It's a tragedy.

dash2 2 hours ago

It's arguably worse. Jason Arday was doing qualitative work in education. Nobody pays any attention to anything UK educationalists write. Dan Ariely was a genuine superstar and writer of popular bestsellers (with academic content).

ghm2199 2 hours ago

The reason why people(or ai agents) have not been able to systematically destroy bad research in fields where fraud is so rampant is because they data are not published or easily accessible without emailing the author and asking them.

I sincerely hope that any self respectful journal that publishes papers should have a minimum bar: submit the data on a public link with no paywall or blockers and feature the link prominently on your paper.

alansaber 2 hours ago

There is a lot of bad ML research for the same reason.

grebc an hour ago

The name of the place should be enough of a giveaway for any thinking person Center for Advanced Hindsight.

SMH.

fabiensanglard 3 hours ago

Oh the irony...