4,400-Year-Old Tomb of Egyptian Judge Found at Saqqara with Colors on Walls (arkeonews.net)
123 points by arunbahl 3 days ago
karmelapple 8 hours ago
So glad to see color photographs of the site.
One thing I'm not so glad to see is one paragraph that starts with this sentence:
"The distinction is important. Archaeological maps..."
That "The distinction is important" smells like AI writing... but maybe we all just have to accept that now?
azernik 3 hours ago
We all have to accept that people will look at perfectly innocuous, clear, well-written prose and assume that AI wrote it.
kakacik an hour ago
Yeah its getting annoying how people discuss endlessly how some text is AI or not... like some extra imaginative points are awarded to those who spot the most. People seem to keep getting triggered by little insignificant things in the text.
LLMs average human writing thats out there, its not making up new expressions or language constructs so just move on if you (anybody) can and put that little obsessive pedantic part of you behind you.
I couldn't care less, why be a prick and not just enjoy & discuss the content, not this ultra focus on the form. If content is crap then thats another story altogether. I wish there would be some plugin/feature to just block those rather empty subthreads.
chmod775 22 minutes ago
undefined an hour ago
psychoslave 2 hours ago
One can still suspect that something might not have been uttered through some AI assistance. There might even be still some living humans outside, who knows.
0xpgm 7 hours ago
As more people start using AI for research, they'll probably adopt AI'isms in their writing too, even if they don't use AI itself to do the writing.
Subconsciously we all pick up patterns that we regularly encounter.
seer 25 minutes ago
Hah absolutely, after of a very intense project I’ve undertaken with Claude agent teams for a few months now, I have caught myself using opus expressions, since they come to mind now naturally because that’s most of the text I’ve read since then … I’m catching myself so far, but in a year or two maybe I will not, fable doesn’t do as much “mannerisms” and speaks plainly, so maybe by then we will all be running fable level models on hour local machines and just not notice it anymore?
hunter-gatherer 7 hours ago
I've had that happen to me. I actually recently wrote a draft blog and looked over it, and it felt AI generated. My writing style has definitely changed.
jcims 5 hours ago
I've definitely picked up 'lever', I scrub it every time that I notice I write it but it's in there.
rubicon33 an hour ago
youniverse 6 hours ago
Maybe we need our AI to only respond in bullet point lists.
erickhill 5 hours ago
stavros 35 minutes ago
evoluketion 5 hours ago
joegibbs 3 hours ago
I have the opposite, I can pick up AIsms much more now and they stick out like a sore thumb. A couple of years ago I had no such intuition, it just sounded like normal writing to me, but now if I try to use AI to write any prose it just sounds absolutely terrible.
awesome_dude 3 hours ago
This is the load-bearing result
Razengan 40 minutes ago
debo_ 7 hours ago
This distinction is important.
21asdffdsa12 2 hours ago
Remember the "IDunno" of archeology - "It most likely served ritual and cultural purposes" .. i wonder if AI adapts such a thing
st_goliath an hour ago
> the "IDunno" of archeology - "It most likely served ritual and cultural purposes"
If all you know about archeology is from daytime television and clickbait articles, all you know about history is what you vaguely remember from school, you never met anybody working in those fields and actually don't even have a passing interest to engage with the subject, then yes, you might be inclined to believe that's how it works.
jimmygrapes an hour ago
Worst thing is that because the smell is bad and you called it out, too comments are all about the smell vs the substance. I contribute, sadly. Maybe we should all be more judicious with when we say there's a smell, save that for when it's really rank? Like a polite thing. Yeah it stinks but maybe it's worth something beyond that. Not sure if this is the one, just thinking out loud.
TomK32 4 hours ago
Ran it through several testes, only one flagged a few sentences as AI, including the one you mention. Fair enough, it's unlikely that English is the (turkish in this case?) author's first language and a little AI help can't hurt here.
I learned a great lesson for a gamedev youtuber this summer: Use AI to give you a summary what you have to implement, what functions you'll need, what edge case you missed and then write it yourself. Putting this into practice helps me to refine the ticket I'm working on. With the last ticket I had to persuade the AI (Atlassian's Rovo in my case) that a new data model wasn't necessary and we can do it more elegantly with less code.
Many of us still have to figure out how AI fits into our workflow, letting it do all the work isn't it but asking AI to point you towards the goal and let it review/refine your work sounds a lot more acceptable to me.
aprilthird2021 3 hours ago
> and a little AI help can't hurt here.
Wrong wrong wrong.
Bad writing makes the reader stop thinking about what you wanted to convey. As unintuitive as it is for most people in this forum, AI writing smell is as bad as bad grammar. Doesn't matter how you get rid of it. Maybe even more AI can clean those up, but those unintuitive phrases that pop up in AI writing are going to be a hindrance for many people who would love for the focus to be on what they're presenting, not the sloppy way they've written it up
pitkali an hour ago
protocolture 3 hours ago
>testes
teehee
undefined 4 hours ago
tym0 17 minutes ago
How are things like that, that were preserved (I'm assuming) by the dry sand they were buried under, then gets preserved by archaeologist for the future?
A lot of pigments react to oxygen, and the sandy winds must not be kind to this kind stuff so I'm curious.
I know they've had to close Lascaux to the public for example.
sho_hn an hour ago
I'm giving a talk this Sunday at KDE's Akademy conference of our use of KDE software in research at the Great Pyramid, if anyone's curious. It's a short talk slot and I cannot go very deeply into detail, to keep expectations low, but you can see cool photos of robots.
gloflo an hour ago
Will there be a video recording or slides?
NegativeLatency 3 hours ago
I imagine they've done some tweaking before publishing (also appears the rock substrate has flaked off), was hoping to be able to pull some more detail out of the images with a vibe coded decorrelation stretch app I made from a post last week:
Towaway69 an hour ago
There's also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49648775 which points to https://shan.mp/decorrelation_stretch/
pimlottc 3 hours ago
I was thinking about that article as well, were you not able to pull any more detail out the images?
nfujd7 an hour ago
4400 years ago! Check whats happening in the rest of the world and its pretty primitive in comparision.
jb1991 3 hours ago
If I understand this finding correctly, it now means we have proof that ancient Egypt was not a life in black-and-white.