The state of SIMD in Rust in 2026 (shnatsel.github.io)
50 points by verdagon 2 days ago
sharktheone 12 minutes ago
I am hoping for portable SIMD so much. But I still think that often a manually rolled SIMD will be faster.
Also the state of SIMD in Cranelift is also very WIP. They pretty much just support a subset of 128bit vectors with some rare exceptions.
the__alchemist 34 minutes ago
I am using my own lib, `lin_alg`, which apes core_simd for floating point values, and extends the concept to vectors and quaternions. I will eventually replace the floating point portions with core::simd upon its arrival in stable Rust.
Downside: It's currently x86 only.
Archit3ch 2 hours ago
Hot take: there is no portable SIMD.
You can either have performance (=write manual ASM for each platform), or portability, but not both.
What so-called "portable SIMD" libraries give you is "portable auto-vectorization". "Portable performance" is a global property of the algorithm. Relying on auto-vectorization will result in e.g. sub-optimal register spills in practice. The microbenchmarks will look great, though. ;)
raphlinus 22 minutes ago
You've got a point but are overstating it considerably. There is a big gap between just autovectorization and the portable primitives a library like Highway or Fearless SIMD will give you. For example, I haven't seen autovectorization do select or swizzle.
But there's another point in the tradeoff space. One of the explicit design decisions in Fearless SIMD is to support "downcasting," or specialization to a specific microarchitecture. At least for the kind of problems I've worked on, even when you're doing something fancy with arch-specific permutations or what not, the majority of the operations will be pretty vanilla, and can be expressed well in the portable subset.
So you can think of a library like Fearless SIMD as enabling your extreme optimization use case, just more ergonomically.
Of course, this depends on LLVM compiling intrinsics to assembly efficiently. That hasn't always been the case, and is not perfect now (a number of issues have been filed against rustc and LLVM while developing Fearless SIMD), but is pretty good.
As always, though, you do have to measure performance, and I frequently look at the assembler output to double-check that it's doing the right thing. The day of "fire and forget" portable SIMD has not yet arrived.
Sharlin an hour ago
Getting 2x or 4x performance in your inner loops using a reasonable SIMD library is infinitely better than theoretically getting 8x performance with hand-coded nonportable intrinsics, because the latter is never going to happen in most programs, so the actual point of comparison is scalar code, or autovectorized code at best.
the__alchemist 32 minutes ago
I agree with that historically auto-vertorization does not seem to work reliably. I'm not sure about your broad claim.
Thoughts on an abstraction over ARM and x86, at 128, 256, and 512-bit widths which, either in a manual or automatic way (The latter more challenging) makes your floating point computations 4-16x faster with minimal restructuring? I think that's doable, and a nice goal of SIMD.
xboxnolifes 19 minutes ago
Sure, in the same way that there is no such thing as portable code at all. The result will be suboptimal, but it will still be better than not having it.
louthy 2 hours ago
> there is no portable SIMD
Except in languages with a JIT compiler
marginalia_nu 13 minutes ago
That still just gets you autovectorization, and generally locks you out of the performance you could have with direct SIMD intrinsics.
Granted, the number of cases this distinction matters is relatively small, making a function faster only makes a program appreciably faster if that function is a bottleneck.
Tanjreeve an hour ago
Starts to get a bit philosophical on what constitutes "portable" but JIT compilers would emit an opcode based off of whatever the frontend/IR is saying to do surely?
IshKebab an hour ago
It's a continuum. Some things basically all SIMD implementations support. Want to add 2 4xf32 vectors together? That's pretty easy to do portably.
But yeah to be fair if you are at that point, you probably want to go fully non-portable anyway. Especially with AI.
Has anyone even figured out how to do vector stuff (SVE/RVV) without assembly?
Scene_Cast2 an hour ago
What about numpy, numba, and torch.compile?
izacus an hour ago
Those are manually optimized per arch, aren't they?
Scene_Cast2 10 minutes ago
amelius 25 minutes ago
Can we start using stainless steel instead?