Results from the ASIC puzzle (blog.janestreet.com)
54 points by eru 2 days ago
kayson 2 hours ago
The EE/IC Design part of me loves this for trying to build a community around what is typically a very opaque and secretive industry. The social justice / millenial part of me hates this for being funded by high frequency trading, of all things. What a colossal waste of resources.
bluecalm 2 hours ago
>>The social justice / millenial part of me hates this for being funded by high frequency trading, of all things. What a colossal waste of resources.
It's more efficient now than it used to be - by which I mean the total taken by HFTs is lower than what people used to pay in spreads and commisions. Price discovery is better (you get closer to a fair price if you trade) and spreads are lower. The whole industry that used to prey on spreads and ignorance of retail investors is gone. What not to like about HFT?
mitxela an hour ago
The upwards money funnel?
Maybe they're both bad?
shric 26 minutes ago
selestify an hour ago
vzcx an hour ago
There is an open source silicon community built around multi-project wafer shuttles that has nothing to do with HFT.
tolugenius an hour ago
Do you mind sharing them and what they do?
tredre3 8 minutes ago
TacticalCoder 2 hours ago
Western societies in which HFT happens also happen to have the best medicine, leisure (many different sports for example), education etc.
You think you could do better by having a planned economy, with your eminence deciding what's a waste and what is not? And why should I believe you it'd end up differently than North Korea or Cuba?
Or you'd somehow manage to take what you think are all the good parts of western societies while outlawing what's wasteful and we'd have an utopia?
salvesefu 2 hours ago
this reply isn't in good faith. OP is being self critical examining contradictions of living in complex interdependent societies. why are your queries so aggressively factional?
genxy 2 hours ago
mitxela an hour ago
> You think you could do better by having a planned economy
Nobody mentioned that crazy scenario so why bring it up?
BTW the USA is already a planned economy.
kccqzy 2 hours ago
I don’t think Jane Street does high frequency trading. I think you might be thinking of Citadel or HRT. Jane Street is more of an old-school quant hedge fund, no?
vzcx an hour ago
Their bread and butter was, and as far as I know still is, trading in ETFs and ADRs. These things have a mechanism to create and redeem in exchange with underlying securities. This means one can make some money arbitraging differences between the bundle and components.
As this game got more competitive they seem to have branched out into other kinds of business including HFT.
wyre 2 hours ago
The page says their hardware team builds the fastest trading systems on the planet. Jane Street does HFT.
ryontikygod 31 minutes ago
Every time I see a Jane Street puzzle of this like I wonder in which way you can improve your problem solving skills for these things and how to extrapolate patterns from other things. I have a gut feeling that this is not only just grinding puzzles, there has to be a way to improve this. Curious if people have some insights on this
IshKebab 29 minutes ago
> The hardware team at Jane Street designs FPGAs and ASICs that run some of the fastest trading systems in the world, and the day-to-day work is full of puzzles just like this one: staring at a sea of gates, timing reports, or waveforms and slowly teasing out what’s really going on.
Although not really any more. AI is really good at debugging failing tests so I no longer have to spend hours - sometimes it was even days - staring at waves and instruction traces.
Tbh that's one thing I won't miss.
amelius 2 hours ago
Were AI models able to find the solution and easter eggs?