Feds got warrants to use fake cell towers to hunt down Don Lemon's producer (wired.com)
121 points by rndsignals 5 hours ago
tamimio an hour ago
mlmonkey 2 hours ago
What will Stingrays do if a mobile device uses Starlink? There's no way the Feds are going to lose this ability to deploy Stingrays once Starlink Mobile comes around.
asdff 2 hours ago
Probably the feds will just ask Starlink for the triangulated coordinates of their person of interest.
peaseagee 2 hours ago
Exactly, it's not like Elon has been shy about using his toys for this admin.
hcurtiss 36 minutes ago
iAMkenough 2 hours ago
Why wouldn't they do that in the case of other providers?
What if Starlink refuses?
conorcleary an hour ago
bitfilped an hour ago
plorg an hour ago
Stingrays don't care where the provider's towers are, they work by pretending to be their own, and (ideally for you if you are the person wielding one) causing your target's phone to connect to or through your antenna. The only way Starlink would help a target is if your phone rejects tower signals that are not mostly above you, or if Starlink Mobile would utilize something other than the 3GPP standards, both of which are unlikely unless they want to sell their own fully proprietary phones.
sam1714 38 minutes ago
Current Starlink direct-to-mobile is proprietary. It's kind of the opposite: 5G NR NTN so far has required new chipsets which haven't found their way into phones yet, whereas Starlink's LTE has been deployed with firmware changes to existing phones.
esseph 2 hours ago
Do you think that Musk wants to become the dominate global cell provider and does NOT plan to use that information collection capability to enable his friends and hurt his enemies?
hcurtiss 35 minutes ago
Yes?
Quitschquat 4 hours ago
Curious if there are counter measures for devices like Stingrays or IMSI catchers
buildsjets 3 hours ago
You can build an IMSI-catcher-catcher out of an Orbic RC400L cellular hotspot and the Rayhunter software published by the EFF.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/03/meet-rayhunter-new-ope...
Cider9986 3 hours ago
Literally just airplane mode. It's ended up being a rather excellent privacy toggle that operating systems have to implement well.
GrapheneOS has "2G Network Protection" which prevents your phone from connecting to 2G networks and it also can notify you if your cellular identifiers were accessed.
https://www.cape.co seemed suspicious to me but apparently they actually do manage to make decent security improvements on the cellular stack. They also donate 100k/year to GrapheneOS [1] which is cool.
https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
gruez 2 hours ago
>GrapheneOS has "2G Network Protection" which prevents your phone from connecting to 2G networks and it also can notify you if your cellular identifiers were accessed.
You should realistically be changing to it to "5G or LTE only", even better "5G only". The latter should provide complete protection from IMSI/IMEI sniffing by rogue base stations.
robertlane0 3 hours ago
Yow, $70 a month is rather harsh. Honestly I'd rather just stick to Signal and avoid traditional calling/SMS and use HTTPS for everything over mobile data instead.
mmooss 3 hours ago
> Literally just airplane mode.
Almost everyone needs a solution that allows them to send and receive communication, including using the Internet, at arbitrary places and times.
> (Cape)
Cape is cofounded by Palantir alums; national security agencies are their main market. That doesn't condemn them - and it may speak to technical chops and requirements - though people should be informed so they can make their own decisions.
> They also donate 100k/year to GrapheneOS
Their valuation, as of this past March, is $900M [0]. GrapheneOS is mostly silent about donors and any arrangments with them, afaict.
[0] https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/03/19/ex-pa...
inemesitaffia 16 minutes ago
johndoylecape 2 hours ago
jcomp an hour ago
Lockdown Mode on iOS also disables 2G
jimnotgym 28 minutes ago
Burner phone? No phone?
oger 3 hours ago
Yes there absolutely are!
The EFF has the Rayhunter project at https://github.com/EFForg/rayhunter - it is basically an IMSI catcher catcher. You install it on a pocket router and it detects typical signatures that IMSI catchers use, for example telling your mobile to downgrade from LTE to 2G making it easy for them to tell your device to join THEIR network and read the IMSI / IMEI for your device and possibly route your traffic through their network.
The device with Rayhunter installed will notify you when these signatures are being detected and you get a pcap file that you can dissect using Wireshark.
There are other tools that you can install on Android devices but Rayhunter certainly is a good start if you want to detect the use of IMSI catchers.
One caveat: IMSI-catching is a cat-and-mouse game, so no promises can be made that the Rayhunter heuristics catch all attacks.
user01203905 34 minutes ago
Rayhunter is a great tool, but unfortunately, it is only a passive monitor for cellular state changes and not an active defense.
Modern Stingrays / IMSI catchers support all standards up to 5G. They easily exploit 4G networks and 5G Non-Standalone (NSA) deployments. The only effective active defenses include (a) using a device locked strictly to 5G Standalone (SA) mode with SUCI (Subscription Concealed Identifier) enabled, preventing fallback to 4G/3G/2G where identity spoofing is trivial, (b) keeping the device in airplane mode most of the time, only going online briefly from unpredictable, shifting locations, and (c) using custom cellular baseband firmware that can reject anomalies (like a tower suddenly appearing too close or lacking neighbor cell lists), though this requires custom building your own solution as ready-made consumer solutions are hard to find. The last one can be achieved with Rayhunter, of course, but it would require some patching to Rayhunter and always carrying a mobile phone connected to the Rayhunter-supported Wi-Fi hotspot device.
Finally, intelligence mercenaries (and therefore LE agencies that contract them) use warrantless network-side exploits like SS7/Diameter attacks to remotely query the core telecom routing system and harvest the location of the tower target's phone is currently using¹ ². This doesn't even require sending legal DD requests to telcos to get target's cell tower.
[1] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/370809133_Attacks_t...
[2] https://www.lighthousereports.com/methodology/surveillance-s...
sleepybrett 3 hours ago
faraday pouch.
aorth 2 hours ago
The subtitle doesn't make sense:
> Investigators also sought permission to use an invasive surveillance tool called a cell-site simulators against journalist Georgia Fort and a Minnesota state Senate candidate.
"a cell-site simulators"?
mmmlinux an hour ago
Yes, thank you. It's literally the first thing I read. Then I checked what 2bit site I was on only to find it was Wired...
mcmcmc 20 minutes ago
It’s literally just a typo, is it that hard to read past a single article-noun disagreement?
randycupertino 3 hours ago
Imagine if they went after the child predators listed in the Epstein files with the same amount of force they are going after journalists and critics of ICE.
mindslight 3 hours ago
They do, but it's more of a "join our new sex trafficking club" dynamic than a prosecution.
jimnotgym 27 minutes ago
Or collecting kompromat leverage
jimt1234 2 hours ago
Imagine if the child predators listed in the Epstein files were illegal aliens! Mind blown!
SOLAR_FIELDS 2 hours ago
Being an illegal alien is not actually the problem though. It’s being poor and/or a minority while also being an illegal alien
asdff 2 hours ago
downrightmike 4 hours ago
The affidavits supporting the applications to track Richardson claimed video showed Fort, Lemon, Richardson, and others “chanting with agitators.” Prosecutors have since conceded that Lemon and Fort did not chant. According to her lawyers, the government acknowledged that the false claim appeared in at least 15 warrant affidavits.
wnmurphy 3 hours ago
This administration has an impressive record of lying in order to manufacture charges against critics.
They also consistently lose in court once these charges are subjected to scrutiny. The point seems to be to merely manufacture bad headlines to smear the targets.
Prior to this administration, the feds had a 93% conviction rate. With so many frivolous cases falling apart in court, I'd be curious to know where that percentage is now.
UltraSane 2 hours ago
Judges are now no longer giving the DoJ the benefit of the doubt and actually scrutinizing the charges.
blitzar 3 hours ago
> The affidavits ... Prosecutors have since conceded
So who is going down for perjury?
mindslight 3 hours ago
Presumably they're relying on mass pardons, like for the profligate self-enrichment, the open treachery of deliberately alienating our allies, the domestic terrorist gangs killing protestors, etc.
But it occurred to me the other day - pardons aren't some ineffable thing, but rely on the discretionary power of the executive (plus some dubious ability to bind future executives). But if we actually get the rule of law back at some point (ie no more sparkling autocracy aka "unitary executive theory"), then Congress should be able to make a law declaring that all those prosecutions need to be pursued. And it wouldn't be an ex-post-facto law because the illegal actions had already been illegal when they were performed, rather the only legal effect would be declaring that the executive (or ideally an independent agency) must perform the prosecution.
(edit: pardon power is mentioned in the Constitution - "[the President] shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment". But that would seem to apply to only some of the crimes. And one would hope that if we were at the point where there was a political mandate to take these traitors to task, an impeachment and conviction could be quite swift - there needs to be impeachments and criminal convictions for most of the Supreme Council as well)
mindslight 3 hours ago
Federal persecutors have always been biased towards the expedient viewpoints of corpos and other let-them-eat-cake perspectives (eg their snuffing of aaronsw). But this new regime is at the next level of not even giving a single flying fuck about operating in good faith. Truly a "hackers mindset" of putting whatever value is needed in a box to make the desired effect happen, which might be laudable except the only thing being hacked (off) is our Constitutional rights.
advisedwang 3 hours ago
> charged with conspiring to violate worshippers’ civil rights and interfering with religious worship at ... its pastors, David Easterwood, also led ICE’s St. Paul field office
Exciting potential here for government officials to use civil rights laws to attack their enemies
IAmNotACellist 3 hours ago
It's illegal in the United States to form or participate in a mob that interrupts worship service. It doesn't matter how right you think you are.
GeekyBear an hour ago
For context:
A law was passed under President Clinton that made it illegal for protesters to interrupt religious services or impede access to an abortion clinic.
> The Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act is a United States law that was signed by President Bill Clinton in May 1994, which prohibits the following three things: the use of physical force, threat of physical force, or physical obstruction to intentionally injure, intimidate, interfere with or attempt to injure, intimidate or interfere with any person who is obtaining an abortion, the use of physical force, threat of physical force, or physical obstruction to intentionally injure, intimidate, interfere with or attempt to injure, intimidate or interfere with any person who is exercising or trying to exercise their First Amendment right of religious freedom at a place of religious worship...
https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Access_to_Clinic_E...
We've seen anti-abortion protesters found guilty and sentenced to prison under the same law in the past.
> Six pro-life activists convicted of federal FACE Act charges, face over a decade in prison
https://ewtn.co.uk/article-six-pro-life-activists-convicted-...
mcmcmc an hour ago
Reporting on an event is not the same as participating in it. The first amendment protects freedom of the press as much as it protects freedom of religion.
xrd 2 hours ago
Some people are wondering if the government has to prove it is a mob, or can just say that, and then do a bunch of illegal things once they assert it. And, whether if that turns out to be a lie, if there are consequences for lying. It would be nice to have clarity there.
GeekyBear an hour ago
xhevahir 2 hours ago
You're just thumping the table. It's illegal to discriminate against Jewish university students, too, but that doesn't mean that Trump's treatment of Columbia et al was justified. What do you think it means for an official to use the law as a weapon against his enemies?
762236 an hour ago
FrustratedMonky an hour ago
"It's illegal in the United States to form or participate in a mob that interrupts worship service"
What if it is a mob of religious worshipers that are participating in the mob?
iAMkenough 2 hours ago
First Amendment, anyone? The right to protest and have a free press?
I guess we're raiding the homes of Congress members we simply disagree with, so Constitutional rights don't carry as much weight anymore.
imthatsteve 2 hours ago
mangodrunk 44 minutes ago
EA-3167 2 hours ago
catlifeonmars 2 hours ago
That narrative is what the Justice Dept alleges, but it’s far from settled. Don’t be disingenuous.
WalterBright 2 hours ago
jLaForest an hour ago
he was acting as a journalist covering a protest. go lick a boot (earlier comment got flagged so im repeating the message)
shard972 an hour ago
phendrenad2 3 hours ago
Because it's so difficult to avoid protesting in a church huh? I get that you're partisan, but come on, have some common sense.
JMKH42 2 hours ago
There are many churches that have needed protesting.
vl 3 hours ago
Should we introduce change to add [paywall] or something to paywalled links?
neonate an hour ago
YMMV but https://web.archive.org/web/20261012130651/https://www.wired... and http://archive.is/KPP2r both work for me.
caymanjim 3 hours ago
Should just ban paywalled links. Although it works fine for me.
vl 3 hours ago
For me it says “you read your last free article”
dabinat 3 hours ago
Banning all paywalls seems harsh. Some paywalls are perfectly readable in Reader Mode.