Delta’s Biscoff cookies were supposed to be temporary (seriouseats.com)

137 points by mhb 2 days ago

SoftTalker 5 hours ago

> a peanut shortage prompted Delta, then America’s fourth-largest airline, to seek an alternative onboard snack

I never knew this was the reason. I had assumed that airlines stopped serving peanuts as an accomodation to the increasing number of people with peanut allergies.

SOLAR_FIELDS 3 hours ago

It's both. That's why Southwest stopped, for instance. Literally just opening a small bag of peanuts around people who aren't eating peanuts is enough to bring someone with a severe allergy into anaphylactic shock.

rtkwe 3 hours ago

The American Academy of Allergy Asthma and Immunology disagrees, which I'm surprised by and totally thought they could too. Someone linked to this in another thread.

> What can occur is that the patient smells an allergen, and that smell triggers a strong memory of a past reaction or the fear of having a reaction and signs and symptoms of panic may occur – including an increase in heart rate, tight breathing, flushing of the skin and nervousness, all of which could be mistaken as signs and symptoms of anaphylaxis. ... While smells can linger in the air, the allergen proteins do not, which is why smelling a food will not trigger anaphylaxis.

Interestingly some allergens like those in shellfish /can/ aerosolize in a boiling pot, however according to them peanuts cannot. I can still absolutely see airlines reacting to passengers thinking they're having attacks and eliminating peanut snacks out of caution and to avoid the issues even an imagined attack can cause on a flight. That and the risk of surface contamination probably?

https://www.aaaai.org/tools-for-the-public/conditions-librar...

edit: dang scooped by 5 minutes.

b112 5 minutes ago

aksss 3 hours ago

Den_VR 3 hours ago

coryrc 3 hours ago

SOLAR_FIELDS 3 hours ago

MaintenanceMode 2 hours ago

I took a flight inside Mexico (Mexico City to Oaxaca) recently and the in-flight service snack was bagged peanuts. I was so amused, it was almost shocking to see. And, good news, no one died, but I assume if it was on a plane in US there probably would've been a strong emotional reaction by at least one person. It's good to know that the "Airborne anaphylaxis" is not a thing.

cpursley 2 hours ago

jcims an hour ago

My buddy's gf is allergic to peas.

She visited a friend's house and started getting an itchy throat immediately. Friends knew of her allergy and obviously hadn't prepared any.

Turned out the dog food had peas in it and the bag was open on the other end of the house in the kitchen. (And a supporting role from whatever the dog had slobbered on in the living room)

Sometimes it blows me away how sensitive our bodies can be.

mattgoupil 11 minutes ago

I first ran into speculoos in the south of France where they ground up and in all sorts of things, especially cheesecake crust. All of a sudden I saw "speculoos" every where. How it jumped from Belgium to Nice escapes me.

adzm 5 hours ago

Have you heard of Biscoff spread? It's kinda like peanut butter except, it's made out of cookies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BZsIY6PUPU (might not be sfw)

jldugger 4 hours ago

Yea, I once brought some to game night, and another gamer brought actual Biscoff cookies. Then a third person put them together into a sandwich cookie which I thought was equal parts funny and violating some kind of Kosher rule "Do not seethe a kid in it's mother's milk" I invented in my head.

Waterluvian 3 hours ago

We’ve strayed further. Sometimes we take the meat of a chicken, bathe it in its eggs, dip it in bread crumb, and shape it in the form of its ancestors.

Dino nuggies are worth it though…

jimbokun 2 hours ago

mrguyorama 3 minutes ago

generallee5686 3 hours ago

I think you can actually buy biscoff sandwich cookies that are essentially this.

Cu3PO42 3 hours ago

AntiqueFig 23 minutes ago

I use that often as a filling for snickerdoodles, it's quite good.

spyspy an hour ago

If you care about your health at all, do NOT buy a jar of trader joe's cookie butter, or their cookie butter ice cream...

tiahura 17 minutes ago

Yes because I read the article.

cinntaile 2 hours ago

Slightly related but you can crumble these cookies and use them as a (cheese)cake bottom. It's nice.

microsoftedging 23 minutes ago

Oh my

burnte 2 hours ago

ChocZero makes a zero sugar version of the speculoos cookie butter and it's amazing.

pinkmuffinere 2 hours ago

lol how could this not be sfw??? I can't open right now because I'm at work but I'm so curious haha

zarzavat 2 hours ago

Anything is possible on the Internet.

munificent an hour ago

You can spread it on anything. ANYTHING.

Waterluvian 3 hours ago

Wife got the same thing but it’s Oreo cookie spread. The stuff is crack.

FLeXMurphy 2 hours ago

This is usually the first thing I think of when I think of f**InG BiScoFf.

c0rruptbytes 6 hours ago

Claire Saffitz makes cinnamon rolls with these cookies as the inner cinnamon filling, they’re so good with the spice

satiated_grue 3 hours ago

They make a great graham-cracker style crust for a skyr cake.

jmpman 4 hours ago

I'd read that there are a few snack items resistant to GLP-1 induced food aversions, when I was on a GLP-1, Biscoff cookies felt like one of them. I may have an Amazon scheduled delivery of Biscoff, which every month, I intend to cancel, and somehow forget to follow through.

tombert 4 hours ago

I'm not on GLP-1s, but I am on metformin [1] which my wife says has similar food aversion properties to the GLPs, and for me I've noticed virtually anything with peanut butter I can still eat a nearly infinite quantity of. One of the worst things that has ever happened to me was finding out that peanut butter fudge is ridiculously easy to make.

[1] Off label for weight loss. My insurance wouldn't cover GLP-1s, and metformin is out of patent and super cheap, and I read that at least some people have had good success using it for weight loss. I am fortunately one of those happy few.

darksim905 3 hours ago

When we say food 'aversion', we're implying that a drug like metformin makes you not want that thing, yes?

I've found when I take metformin, and then eat food later, I enjoy the food so much more as a craving/satiation thing. Especially steaks. But I'm not quite sure why that is. I can't say that what peers have told me about metformin is to help with weight loss, but supposedly the benefits/effects on the body are generally positive.

tombert 2 hours ago

collinstevens 4 hours ago

please delete your comments, this is an infohazard for us on glp-1s

tombert 3 hours ago

cyberpunk 3 hours ago

One extreme option if you wanna kick the ‘butter — I ate a small amount of peanut butter immediately before a severe case of norovirus kicked in (48 hours of purge every 15-20 minutes) — can’t even be in the same room with the stuff without flashbacks anymore. Even typing that out made feel rough.

Maybe there’s some way to de-program such strong associations but seems like a way to kick a bad habit..

tombert 2 hours ago

criddell 3 hours ago

How cheap is super cheap? Semaglutide is something like $70 a month now from some online sellers.

tombert 2 hours ago

sasaf5 5 hours ago

Please, make sure you try these at least once in your life: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speculoos

thenthenthen 3 hours ago

As well as ‘taaitaai’, the chewy variety ( https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taaitaai )

Dries007 5 hours ago

As a Belgian I still dislike this new branding.

throw7 4 hours ago

If it's any help, the company denies that Delta came up with the name, but doesn't offer an explanation to the origin of the name itself.

It's also funny how they deny that the original deal with Delta was only a temporary short term deal, but that it was always a longterm deal.

tunk 5 hours ago

Same.

Insanity 4 hours ago

It is at least easier to pronounce for non-Dutch speakers. Here in Toronto, there are a few places that put "Speculaas/Speculoos (Biscoff)" on their menu, e.g: https://www.columbuscafe.com/en/recette/cafe-latte-de-lours-....

But to be honest, as a Belgian living abroad, I'm just happy I can find it at all lol. Was surprised to even find the 'crunchy' spread in my local supermarket.

isqueiros 2 hours ago

Exoristos 5 hours ago

Soon after these became ubiquitous in grocery stores, the manufacturer stopped using butter. I don't buy them anymore.

geodel 4 hours ago

Wow. Seems people do love it. My thought was always there could be no cheaper or worse snack that airlines can offer

temp_praneshp 4 hours ago

I moved to America in July 2011, first delta flight in August that year, and have pretty much not bought any other cookie since.

When I was young and shameless back then I would even ask for an extra one! My wife hates the cookie though, so probably in your boat

sv123 39 minutes ago

Yeah I'm so confused in the comments, these things suck.

thenthenthen 3 hours ago

Grinding them up as bottom for cheesecake is heaven!

AntiqueFig 21 minutes ago

Or as a lemon pie crust it's awesome as well!

gnarcoregrizz 3 hours ago

same. biscoff is loathsome

urbandw311er an hour ago

This article is kind of one-sided – it consistently makes claims and then has to admit, in brackets, that Lotus disputes them.

rootusrootus 5 hours ago

Once in a while we pick up a pack of these from Costco, when we haven't flown in a while. They're pretty sweet, so we don't get them too often, but once in a while as a treat.

jimbokun 2 hours ago

> They're pretty sweet, so we don't get them too often, but once in a while as a treat.

Then a Costco pack should be close to a lifetime supply.

rootusrootus 2 hours ago

I have two teenagers.

johnnyApplePRNG 4 hours ago

Title makes it sound like Biscoff was created by an airline or something...

The bakery has been around since 1932, FYI.

eddieroger 4 hours ago

The "then passengers fell in love" portion was enough context (for me, at least) to know we were about to read about Delta Airlines, the first place I've had Biscoff cookies, and other than when I get them at Costco, the only place I eat them.

HumblyTossed 6 hours ago

Too sweet. Much would rather p-nuts.

garbawarb 4 hours ago

Same. All these snacks have added sugar or oils, I'd rather have something simple.

dieselgate 5 hours ago

Are there allergy concerns with nuts?

sbennettmcleish 5 hours ago

One of my sons is allergic to peanuts (and a lot more, like dairy alas) ... but Biscoff is a saviour for a little treat! And Biscoff spread is glorious, better than peanut butter IMO

skyyler 4 hours ago

lotsofpulp 5 hours ago

https://www.aaaai.org/tools-for-the-public/conditions-librar...

>Myth: Smelling an allergen can trigger anaphylaxis.

>Fact: While people often don’t like the smell of a food they’re allergic to, smell does not provoke an allergic reaction...While smells can linger in the air, the allergen proteins do not, which is why smelling a food will not trigger anaphylaxis.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33548082/

>Allergic reactions to airborne peanut proteins are rare and cannot be predicted by high levels of IgE-antibodies to peanut or Ara h 2. Only small amounts of biologically active peanut proteins were detected in the air and seem unlikely to trigger moderate/severe allergic reactions.

dieselgate 5 hours ago

stevesimmons 4 hours ago

HumblyTossed 4 hours ago

I don't have a nut allergy.

alexjplant 3 hours ago

They're also very chocolate-deficient and therefore not worth my time. Life is too short for anything vanilla, shortbread, or sugar cookie adjacent (which I recall Biscoff to be).

I understand that this is a blazing hot culinary take and might be the most controversial thing I've written on HN. Before downvoting please consider that this isn't elitism or opinion - everybody the world over deserves the joy of flavor in their confections instead of cloying bland sweetness. Embrace variety and live your life. Throw your Biscoff in the trash and buy some Tim Tams or Thin Mints.

programmertote 4 hours ago

Came here to say this. I thought I liked them when I was given just one packet on the airplane. So I bought them at Costco when I saw them there. It's been like two months since I bought it and I barely finished a third of that because it's too sweet.

voooduuuuu an hour ago

Just like login session cookies.

fotta 3 hours ago

I have been known to inhale entire costco sized sleeves of biscoffs

I don't look at the nutrition facts

ErroneousBosh 3 hours ago

Turns out just anyone can call themselves a nutritionist, according to Dr Ben Goldacre, but "dietician" is something you actually have to be qualified for.

So, you can call yourself a nutritionist, run a blog about it, write a book about it, anything really, and tell anyone any kind of bullshit you make up.

I think I'm on pretty solid ground with mine though.

> I have been known to inhale entire costco sized sleeves of biscoffs > I don't look at the nutrition facts

Here's the title:

"What You're Eating Is Probably Pretty Much Fine"

The strapline is "maybe just not so much, and don't do it all the time"

epcoa 2 hours ago

You mean dietitian.

This is meant to be good natured pedantry, but look it up, you may find it interesting.

ErroneousBosh an hour ago

CodeWriter23 2 hours ago

In-flight internet sucks? Have a cookie.

HoldOnAMinute 2 hours ago

They are temporary. They have a way of disappearing into my belly.

el_don_almighty 6 hours ago

I love these cookies

malfist 5 hours ago

Me too. Have you seen that Kodiak is now making "cookie butter" protein granola? Cookie butter is the US naming of speculoos and they're amazing. Love that stuff. Tried making my own to improve the macros more, but haven't nailed it yet.

jolt42 4 hours ago

I do too, but realized i like ginger snaps, at least some varieties at least as well if not better.

_doctor_love 4 hours ago

Dunking these in coffee is super clutch

jasperry 3 hours ago

That also helps reduce the crumb issues. Though I do prefer the stroopwafels served by another major US airline.

Telemakhos 4 hours ago

Or hot tea. Along the same lines too, try the ultra-flat and crisp and dunkable Moravian cookies (specifically the spice or ginger flavors) or ginger-flavored Swedish thins.

burningChrome 4 hours ago

And now with their popularity, they're almost everywhere now. Mcdonald's, Krispy Kreme, Cinnabon, Auntie Anne's have all had Biscoff partnered products.

Kind of cool to the explosion of popularity and them taking advantage and partnering with other brands to expand their markets.

sammycdubs 3 hours ago

#1 reason to fly delta tbh

baggachipz 3 hours ago

American serves them too.

smcin an hour ago

Only since more recently (2026?) I believe.

baggachipz 4 minutes ago

thaumasiotes 2 hours ago

In Hong Kong I've seen a gourmet cheesecake shop selling "Lotus Biscoff" flavored cheesecake, and supermarkets selling Biscoff butter (basically Nutella, but with Biscoff flavoring instead of chocolate).

I know the cookie mainly for being sold at Costco. I had no idea they were given out on flights.

The biggest question I've always had about them was whether the "Lotus" in their name is the same brand as the Chinese supermarket chain Lotus. I think it isn't?

t1234s 5 hours ago

pairs well with a coffee but with a gin and tonic pretzels are the way to go.

peter_d_sherman 2 hours ago

>"But until 1986, when Delta Air Lines began serving them as a temporary replacement for peanuts, the cookie—typically something enjoyed with a cup of coffee in a Belgian café—was practically unknown in the US. Today, Biscoff is a global phenomenon, with its manufacturer Lotus Bakeries touting it as the world’s fifth-bestselling cookie."

How do you make your unknown product known?

You put it in front of as many people as you can!

In the above case, cookies in front of airline-passengers seemed to be the winning business formula, but this is only one example of a product meeting a market at a specific interface/connection point, with the Delta customers' drop-down in-flight tray tables being that "connection point".

In the study of business, this is one example (or subcase) of that much broader pattern...

Still, it's a pretty cool example! :-)

MC995 6 hours ago

Honestly that's one of the few things I look forward to when flying these days, and a serious consideration on picking Delta if other factors are equal between airlines.

drcongo 6 hours ago

You can just buy some from a shop.

Liuser 5 hours ago

Tomato juice is also disproportionately popular during flights compared to what one would normally order grounded. You can also buy tomato v8 juice from a shop, but there’s a reason taste changes when you’re flying, which they explain in the article.

tigen 5 hours ago

Anticipating it nervously as the attendant distributes them down the aisle and then receiving it for free makes it taste better.

MC995 5 hours ago

I do, sometimes. But when I can always get them it's less of a "treat".

There are a few things I only get intentionally when traveling for work so it's something to look forward to and brings something positive to the trip.

em3rgent0rdr 5 hours ago

Sure, there are a lot of things like this you can do. It would eat up a minute of your time and cost a premium to buy a tiny packet of an individually-wrapped biscoff. Or you could spend ~$36 to buy a box of 300 biscoffs that occupy a space in your cupboard, and then every time you fly, you take one out of the box and put it in your carry-on, and resist the temptation to eat it unless you are 10km high.

xattt 5 hours ago

tekla 5 hours ago

Like half the article is about why these cookies are popular in flight

TheRealPomax 3 hours ago

> traditional Belgian cookie speculaas

Pardon? You mean the traditional Belgian, Dutch, French, and German cookie? Because it's a cross-border (food) cultural good, it's not something invented by, or to this day cherished in, one specific country.

lbreakjai an hour ago

Can you just let us have this one? The other countries already have plenty to talk about!

More seriously, the biscoff variant is quite distinctively Belgian, as it's using caramel rather than a traditional mix of spices.

ardit33 4 hours ago

Does anyone voluntarily buys them? I find them barely eatable food.

AdmiralAsshat 4 hours ago

Sure. They even sell a sandwich version with cream: http://nibblesnscribbles.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Lotu...

It's like eating a cinnamon-y, ginger-y oreo.

imp0cat 4 hours ago

Yeah, put two of them in a cup of plain yogurt, let them sit for a short while and then stir them it - it's just perfect, not too sweet.

prmph 5 hours ago

Aren't they supposed to be full of sugar? Each time I've been tempted to pick them up when shopping, one look at the ingredients and nutritional profile is enough to dissuade me. I guess trying them once in a while won't kill me, though.

Apparently, they are a brand of speculoos cookies, and this Wikipedia synopsis is eye opening:

> speculaas [speːkyˈlaːs] ⓘ refers to the more traditional variant, made with a mix of various spices, which is nowadays most popular in the Netherlands; speculoos [speːkyˈloːs] ⓘ refers to a Belgian variant that omits the traditional spices in favour of caramelized sugar for flavour, and which is nowadays the most common variant in Belgium and worldwide

So the Belgians enshittified speculaas to create speculoos, pumping it full of sugar, and presented it to the world as something special.

wiether 5 hours ago

They're... cookies. A treat.

Looking at the nutritional profile of cookies doesn't make sense. You're supposed to eat them in such low quantity/frequency that it doesn't matter.

prmph 3 hours ago

Yes, cookies are not the most healthy thing, but there are better and worse ones. It is not just even about it containing some sugar. Why replace the spices that made a traditional cookie special, with more sugar? What is distinctive about sugar?

motionlessveloc 2 hours ago

skerit 4 hours ago

> So the Belgians enshittified speculaas to create speculoos

Yes and no. This "Speculoos is actually cheap Speculaas" isn't completely true. That's what people like to say today, but the "Speculoos" name has been around much longer than Lotus bakeries. It's just a dialect thing and there is no reason. Some people called it "Speculaas", some people called it "Speculoos", and _then_ a cheaper variant got made and they choose the "Speculoos" term for it.

It all just sounds really fitting because the "-loos" suffix in Dutch means "without".

prmph 3 hours ago

Thanks for the explanation. I agree the -loos suffix is indeed (amusingly) fitting, if that's what it means. Specu-loss?

notyourwork 5 hours ago

Yes things made with sugar have sugar.