Iosevka is an open-source, sans-serif and slab-serif monospace font (typeof.net)
673 points by otobrglez 14 hours ago
wartywhoa23 12 hours ago
Iosevka, my absolutely most loved font for years!
I've been using a custom version - you can customize the font¹ and build your own ttf (or better yet, ttc) using the build system supplied in the repository².
be5invis, the author of the font, deserves a special mention for creating a whole custom DSL called PatEL (Parametric Type Expression Language) to generate the font programmatically!
Renzhi, if you ever come around to read this, thank you so much for Iosevka, man!
¹https://typeof.net/Iosevka/customizer
²https://github.com/be5invis/Iosevka/blob/master/doc/custom-b...
goatking 7 hours ago
I am happy it works for you. I am always surprised how much this font is praised, then I try it, and just completely unreadable for me.
I tried it again, quickly set it up in my terminal the "Iosevka Term" version, switching from Jetbrains Mono, and just don't understand how can people read this.
bayindirh 7 hours ago
I drove a version of this for a fairly long time, remembering downloading it from GitHub page, not from the customizer. It's not a bad font by any means. I enjoyed Iosevka a lot while I used it.
But, after using Berkeley Mono for three minutes, I switched to it everywhere in a week or so, and never looked back, or looked anywhere else, to be precise.
Yes, it's not free, and yes it's opinionated. I can say that my opinions align with that font pretty much. It's one of the things which I cherish like an expensive hand tool which really does its job very well and makes you happy with its presence.
psolidgold 6 hours ago
astrolx 7 hours ago
ErroneousBosh 2 hours ago
cdaringe 7 hours ago
gjvc 14 minutes ago
Jetbrains Mono Thin and Roboto Condensed make an excellent pair.
nvme0n1p1 6 hours ago
The reason it's so popular is it was (one of?) the first fonts to include tons of programming ligatures. So it gained mindshare early, and since font choices are so personal, the more people use a font, the more people will like and post about it.
gorgoiler 6 hours ago
A huge helping of praise gets lumped onto Iosevka, from me, for the way it is defined in a custom S-expression DSL.
https://github.com/be5invis/PatEL
It’s a real hackers typeface.
altairprime 5 hours ago
To suggest an odd thing, you might try repeating your tests with the customized set to a single weight — either higher or lower than the default 500 that most programs would use. Berkeley for high-PPI displays is at 450 rather than 500 and looks better for it. (I’m on the Berkeley ship and there are flaws in Iosevka that would see me select Monaco over it, but I’m also a fan of For Science™.)
JasonSage 6 hours ago
Once, I also couldn't fathom how people liked this one.
When I asked, somebody said it fits more characters in terminals and code editors. This sounds incredibly obvious, but for whatever reason that was eye-opening for me and helped me appreciate it a lot more when I tried it again. Now I can't use anything else.
Perz1val 5 hours ago
Truth is it requires getting used to, I don't even notice it's narrow anymore, but it was so painful throughout the first day
para_parolu 7 hours ago
Iosevka is very configurable and have many options for font and individual glyphs. Build supports text file config. At some point I made a config so I can always get preferred setup. It works well for me
16bitvoid 7 hours ago
I'm also not a fan of the narrow width, but there is an "extended" width version that's more like other mono fonts, which is what I personally use, albeit customized.
skrebbel 7 hours ago
Give it a week
sombragris 3 hours ago
Iosevka and its family are a true masterpiece. I used it as my main primary monospaced font since it's so clean and pleasing to the eye.
I now switched to Ioskeley Mono, which is an Iosevka configuration made to look similar to Berkeley Mono:
https://github.com/ahatem/IoskeleyMono
Either the Iosevka originals or Ioskeley are gorgeous fonts. I'm grateful to its creator.
vbernat 3 hours ago
I love it as I can customize it to match the metrics and weights of my main font on web pages. See here for me: https://github.com/vincentbernat/vincent.bernat.ch/blob/main....
mcbuilder 9 hours ago
Same, I went from being die hard Terminus fan to this. Been a long time daily driver.
ilvez 8 hours ago
Yep. :waves: to ones on similar path.. Switching off from Terminus was hard, but eventually unavoidable. Switched to Jetbrains Mono when Ghostty came out nearly 2 years ago..
durdn 7 hours ago
oh man I used Terminus for so long till my finger hurt ... recently I was very happy with Cascadia Mono but now I've migrated to (as I was saying in another thread) Pragmasevka (derivative of Iosevka that mimics Pragmata Pro). It's really great.
nextaccountic 12 hours ago
> ttf (or better yet, ttc)
Why is ttc better?
wartywhoa23 12 hours ago
It's a package of ttfs, simpler to have all in one file on disk as well as install from one. Customization can generate a lot of font varieties.
JdeBP 12 hours ago
That explains all of the .ptl source files, which I didn't recognize straightaway.
brzz 9 hours ago
Would be curious to see your custom version
wartywhoa23 8 hours ago
Here you go:
Copy and paste into Import Configuration at https://typeof.net/Iosevka/customizer to preview.
z0ltan 9 hours ago
Testing whether I am shadow-banned. If you see this message, could you just acknowledge the same?
wartywhoa23 8 hours ago
I see you, my friend!
z0ltan 7 hours ago
jve 11 hours ago
Is it only me but I really dislike "Code Ligations"? I have to mark some chars to count how many consecutive "=" simbols there are... or \/ looking like V without having other chars near it to distinguish. Having to copy paste diamond shape to find out it is <>. arrows with squiggly tails, /> being ugly, <. having dot in the middle...
That could be the maximum I'd like out of font to have "proper" greater/less-equal sign.
slazaro 11 hours ago
They always seemed to me like solutions to a nonexistent problem. They make the code less readable, but ligatures exist and they seemed like a cool tech thing to implement, and they might look cool in screenshots. But in practice, in my opinion, they're worse than just having the normal characters. But I guess it's a matter of opinion, no harm in other people using them.
yayachiken 11 hours ago
We have studies since ages ago that consistency in code style is one of the most important requirements for code quality.
This goes down to the details like that you should either use spaces over tabs OR prescribe editor config such that the code looks similar on each machine.
Of course this doesn't automatically mean that code ligatures are harmful, but I would be quite wary of using them. At the very least it introduces some friction, not sure if the arguably lower mental load of using real mathematical symbols instead of the ASCII symbols makes up for it.
jve 9 hours ago
Perz1val 5 hours ago
They don't detract from readability for me, so it's just pretty symbols = me more happy
Semaphor 11 hours ago
Common complaint.
Personally, I like them. They look pleasing and I never had issues distinguishing between the ligatures for ==, ===, and = itself.
ragnese 10 hours ago
I thought I was the only one! I figured I was either crazy or getting old and stuck in my ways. The first I'm I saw a font with them, I thought it was cool and tried it out. I almost immediately hated it. I've tried a few more times for varying lengths of time, and I've decided that I really do hate them.
strenholme 8 hours ago
I have used Fontforge to remove all ligatures from a programming font; e.g. my monospace font of choice is a aggressively subsetted variant of Fira Code with no ligatures whatsoever.
https://github.com/samboy/CaulixtlaFonts/tree/main/MiscFonts...
seanw444 4 hours ago
Can't you just use the font feature flags?
strenholme 3 hours ago
bita_nidir 10 hours ago
I logged into HN to upvote your comment. Code Ligations are an absolute abomination.
apetrovic 11 hours ago
I like them and use them. But every editor I worked with has an option to disable ligatures.
voidUpdate 11 hours ago
I wish editors had the option to disable certain ligatures. I use jetbrains mono, and the >> ligature breaks bracket highlighting in visual studio, making them both the same colour
sicktriple 8 hours ago
Ligatures suck. That's what Iosevka Fixed is for.
rbanffy 5 hours ago
The VT-340 didn't support ligatures, therefore, we shouldn't use them ;-)
Now, seriously, a programming font has no (and should never have) awareness of the computer language it's representing. Ligatures make sense if they present meaning in a way easier to read than the non-combined characters. I can't type := in APL and expect the REPL to think it's an attribution arrow (←).
I get APL is a rather extreme language to talk about, but this is one example where ligatures would harm the programmer (unless your editor replaces a ":=" with a "←"). Source code is a very precise language and the choice of characters you use matters a lot. A "<-" doesn't mean "←" unless the language declares so.
graypegg 7 hours ago
I personally like them because (to me) it makes a few symbols less ambiguous. (I use Victor Mono [0], so in my mind things like == and === in that font makes mistakes more obvious to me at least.)
But also... I know I have the minority opinion on this. It absolutely should be opt-in, not opt-out. I think the past decade, I've been told the font tweaks I enable are incomprehensable to everyone I work with. The way I like my IDE fonts is far outside the bell curve (ligatures, cursive variants for some syntax, proportional variants for prose) so the fact that most new monospace code-focused fonts seem to align with my opinions should be concerning to font makers! I like that I don't have to patch a different font's italics into my code font anymore, but common sense says I SHOULD still have to do that!
semiquaver 11 hours ago
ligatures, not ligations
Freak_NL 10 hours ago
I have no idea why they chose 'ligation' instead of just ligature, but it was jarring every time I encountered it.
efilife 11 hours ago
Interestingly, they are called ligations on the submitted website
swiftcoder 10 hours ago
spiderice 4 hours ago
This is brought up in every single thread about fonts that have code ligatures. So no, of course it isn't just you.
nsvd2 3 hours ago
I love them. I suppose it's personal preference
kps 9 hours ago
Yeah, Unicode shipped 35 years ago. If you want a ≠ then use a ≠.
F3nd0 5 hours ago
I wish more languages other than Raku did this. But no, not equal is written as surprised equal. And if something ought to be less or equal, you have to write a fat arrow pointing left. :/
rob74 8 hours ago
Then you just need a programming language that accepts ≠ as a synonym of !=. But who knows, maybe there is already one?
daotoad 6 hours ago
cogburnd02 7 hours ago
eviks 5 hours ago
But languages are made by older or less progressive people, so of course you can't use ≠ Unicode in your language enforcing ascii
mkesper 11 hours ago
The 'fixed' variant disables them.
boltzmann64 9 hours ago
I used to hate font ligatures until I discovered Commit Mono (my all time favorite monospace font). They use the ligatures only to adjust spacing and make it look better on a monospace grid. No stupid <=, -> ligatures or anything else.
cloverich 5 hours ago
They are in the tabs vs spaces camp. Choose your preference and walk away, silently. Unless you consider yourself a Real Programmer, in that case, fight to the death about the matter.
(...I also find them annoying to look at, idk why)
wildrhythms 11 hours ago
I hate them. I disable them in every code editor. I don't need to have to guess if it's a double equals or a triple equals
throwuxiytayq 9 hours ago
Some fonts use three lines to draw a triple equals ligature. That, and it is, well, triple long. I’ve never had any problems with distinguishing anything with ligatures. They’re nice to look at, and very easy to read once you’re used to them. Skill issue, guys.
doodpants 6 hours ago
pmontra 9 hours ago
It's not only you.
doodpants 6 hours ago
You and me both. Ligatures are a solution to a problem that monospaced fonts don't have. I don't mind if a mono font uses ligatures to harmonize character spacing/alignment a little bit. But I don't want things like a "proper" greater/less-equal sign; if a font goes so far as to replace >= with ≥, then it's lying to me about what characters are actually present in the file.
xondono 6 hours ago
They’re “lying” as much as any other character is “lying”.
F3nd0 5 hours ago
WesolyKubeczek 10 hours ago
Code ligatures look like the final desperate attempt of an aging hipster, a Ruby on Rails and Web2.0 early adoptr (sic), the type to wear thick-rimmed fake glasses and a scarf in the middle of summer, to be cool, as he is riding his old Segway, with a glass of soy latte in one hand and an avocado toast in the other, into the void of oblivion.
I don't like them because I never know what they actually stand for in ASCII.
oefrha 13 hours ago
IMO a font specimen site may be the worst place to use font-display: swap. Was wondering why I was looking at what seemed indistinguishable from Courier, turns out what I saw was exactly Courier.
embedding-shape 11 hours ago
For those not in the know (or who didn't suffer through having to write CSS manually): font-display: swap changes the default behavior from "No text visible until font been loaded" to "Display fallback font until specified font is available", meaning you'll see Courier until Iosevka loaded properly, or Courier forever if the font file failed to load.
I'm guessing the website author added that after some "website performance tool" recommended it, as they make sweeping generalizations that don't always make sense in every context, and "always add font-display: swap so text is readable earlier" is now a dogmatic rule "web developers" (mechanical or wetware ones) add without thinking, so that precious performance number goes up.
kqp 10 hours ago
I think the dogmatism stems from Google, which delivers this advice as unconditional instruction and often gets parroted, makes the main website grading tool that calls it an error, and says they’ll drive less traffic to you if their grading tool rates you poorly.
Also, I think also led by Google, `font-display: block;` actually behaves the same as swap now, just with a longer wait for the font to load [1]. Iosevka’s webpage does use swap, though.
[1]: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/Reference/A...
Freak_NL 10 hours ago
I was wondering why it did that. This is really the kind of site where this is not a feature you should use.
Sharlin 9 hours ago
Funny. Last I heard everyone wanted to specifically prevent the behavior of showing unstyled content before assets are loaded.
pimlottc 6 hours ago
I had thought that was an intentional animation to show the different weights and variants
jrmg 9 hours ago
On my iPad, I’m pretty sure Fira Code and IBM Plex in the example box are displaying as Courier. They’re certainly both identical.
dmtroyer 8 hours ago
was also confused...
needfish 11 hours ago
I have a custom build of this font, use it everywhere now. One thing is that the width by default is too compact and the extended is too wide for my taste. Upon searching I found somebody's build that has width 576. I don't know why that number, but I used it in my current builds and it turns out pretty much perfect for terminal use for me, just wide enough.
The hookiest tail for lowercase l man, love it.
Even for my own website, with some tighter tracking and it can work okay as a text font.
Another great customizable font is Maple Mono [0]
frazer2669 10 hours ago
Re: Width -- Same, default is too narrow and extended is too wide for my taste. The custom build has a default "semi-extended" which is just right for me and has a width of 548. Again no clue why that number, but if Iosevka says that is right then it is :) I do see that when I switch between semi-extended and a "regular" font like Cascadia Code that they seem to be the exact same width.
asa123 11 hours ago
Sometimes I catch myself assuming hacker news is representative of the general population and then I read comments like these
(I am excited to try this out)
twalla 6 hours ago
The default spacing is too narrow for my liking but what's really cool is in the amount of customization that's possible, including lookalikes of some popular paid programming fonts (I'm partial to Iosvmata).
https://github.com/ahatem/IoskeleyMono
seabass an hour ago
Iosevka is one of those fonts you can tell has had so much work put into it over the years. It is so customizable and works in a lot of contexts, although it’s a little narrow to code in for my taste. I’ve really liked Junicode (serif) for the same reason. Lots of customization options and care in the details.
GCUMstlyHarmls 12 hours ago
First time I used Iosevka I felt really nauseated, kind of like getting motion sickness, it was a really bizarre experience for a font to give me. I was on a smaller screen though and getting some more characters in without getting tiny was actually a selling point, so I gave it another go and eventually got over the feeling.
Now (after ... gosh, 6, 7, 8? years probably) I love it, use it everywhere and other monospace font feels super w i d e and weird.
TwoFerMaggie 13 hours ago
Have been using it for a couple years. Before that I was using Fira Code/Mono which was also fantastic. However, once I got used to the condensed Iosevka, all the other fonts just felt loose and not space efficient enough in my IDE and terminal.
code-blooded 11 hours ago
I am the opposite. I have CommitMono, Iosevka, Source Code Pro installed, but I always come back to Fira Code/Mono. At the same overall density of text, I find that I can skim through the text faster when the font is wider.
It's interesting how personal font choice (among many other things) is!
aziis98 13 hours ago
Exactly the same for me! I love it for the terminal especially
Daneel_ 9 hours ago
I know it's a ridiculous thing to say, but the fact that I can customise the font so well on the website only to then not be able to download it like that is a crime. I don't want to muck about with npm just to build a font - do it on the site! /rant
Daneel_ 9 hours ago
Well, I was able to do it fairly simply online via github actions with the help of chatgpt.
Chat history (excuse the lazily-constructed prompt): https://chatgpt.com/share/6acf829b-5428-83ec-939c-acbc7805a3...
johnisom2001 6 hours ago
> fairly simply online via github actions with the help of chatgpt
This is exactly what he's talking about. It's not one-click
miqkt 12 hours ago
My go-to monospace font in everything I use nowadays. Way back, it used to be JetBrains Mono. When I decided to give Iosevka a try, I actually started with the expanded variant, because I wasn't accustomed to the narrow jump. Took a while, but at some point I took that jump back to the default and it's stuck. Thanks for your efforts on this font Renzhi!
dang 5 hours ago
Related:
Iosevka typeface for code, from code - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36785409 - July 2023 (76 comments)
Iosevka – Versatile typeface for code, from code - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30014796 - Jan 2022 (36 comments)
Iosevka, Version 3.0.0 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23230929 - May 2020 (40 comments)
Iosevka – A Typeface for Code, from Code - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14009963 - April 2017 (122 comments)
Show HN: Iosevka Open Source Programming Typeface - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9951989 - July 2015 (27 comments)
(Reposts are fine after a year or so; links to past threads are just to satisfy extra-curious readers)
aleyan 6 hours ago
I have been using a union of Iosevka for most characters and Source Han Sans for CJK characters called Sarasa Gothic[0] for my roguelike (HexWalker)[1]. Iosevka's narrow characters are what originally inspired me to do it. Two Iosevka half-width glyphs literally form a square in the terminal, and if off-set by one characters, can be used to emulate a pointy-side up hexgrid in the terminal. In the end my love for the Iosevka letter shapes made me build HexWalker for the web, because it is easier to set custom fonts there than in the terminal.
If you want to use Iosevka on your webpage there is a variant on google fonts called Iosevka Charon[2] that is really easy to use.
Personally, I use filtered version of Iosevka that just contains the characters and variants I need for my personal website. For HexWalker I filter Sarasa Term to the characters I used, which takes it down to 42kb from 50mb+.
[0] https://github.com/be5invis/sarasa-gothic
iwixon 7 hours ago
Emacs heads will know Prot. Mandatory shout out to his Iosevka customized version Aporetic [0], previously called 'Iosevka Comfy', which has become my daily driver.
makizar 11 hours ago
I’ve used Iosevka for years but recently switched to Commit Mono [0]. It hits all the right spots for me, is customizable, and does smart kerning which is neat.
F3nd0 5 hours ago
The font might be nice, but that website makes it exceptionally hard to read, so I can’t really say.
tcdent 8 hours ago
Hadn't seen this one yet, but that's exactly the type of sensibility I personally prefer in a monospace (Menlo has remained my daily driver for years).
divbzero 4 hours ago
Iosevka is also available in Nerd Fonts. https://www.nerdfonts.com/#features
durdn 10 hours ago
A friend pointed me to a derivative of Iosevka that tries to mimic the historical (and commercially licensed) Pragmata Pro and the result is an insanely great font I've migrated to recently: https://github.com/shytikov/pragmasevka
jiffygist 28 minutes ago
What's the origin of the name?
tkdb 5 hours ago
Are we in a font renaissance?
Why are there so many new awesome projects like this?
I'm not complaining, just trying to understand what drives the creation of open source fonts.
brzz 5 hours ago
This project is over a decade old fyi
TrainedMonkey 5 hours ago
It is almost like there is a cool new technology that makes shipping projects faster.
Zizizizz 5 hours ago
Iosevka is very old
real_faxenoff 3 hours ago
The font looks pretty good, and its compactness seems promising. But with my low screen resolution and high-contrast color scheme, it starts to strain my eyes when reading large blocks of text.
I tried various fonts and settled on Martian Mono VF (https://github.com/evilmartians/mono). At a width of 0.6, it’s quite comfortable to read.
nylonstrung 2 hours ago
It's a nice font but the nix package constantly gets reupdated and forces a new build instead of going through binary caches for some reason.
I uninstalled it specifically because it was slowing down my updates and builds
hualapais 5 hours ago
I adhered to and finished out my tech career with APL385:
…IBM Plex and Iosevka were in the running, but the subtle “Comic Sans” effect of the APL font make the code easier to scan, subjectively speaking.
drmr 4 hours ago
To be very honest: this hurts my eyes
Maybe it's because I'm just too used to DejaVu Sans Mono Book, but I couldn't use this as a daily driver at all.
Luckily we can all have our terminals the way we want :)
joarv0249nw 9 hours ago
Why is it called sans-serif when there is serif on i j etc?
dcss_gardener 9 hours ago
It's a descriptive label of the general lineage the designer considers their font to be in, not an ISO spec.
A little bit of looseness here is a pretty strong signal for careful font design actually. It means the creator considered some other factor (in this case char disambiguation) to be more important than rigid adherence to the category.
oskdosjfiejfj 4 hours ago
Or, to put it in a way that doesn’t make you sound like a complete ass: serif characters are the exception, so this is considered a sans-serif font.
starquake 12 hours ago
The default font since GNOME 48 is Adwaita Sans (a modified Inter with different l's and I's) and for monospace it is Adwaita Mono (a modified Iosevka.)
I like it a lot!
Scoring6931 4 hours ago
Took them long enough to change!
Both Inter and Iosevka are gorgeous fonts.
Cantarell was so, so ugly.
cik 12 hours ago
I have been using this font for 3 years now. I can't, and won't get off it. I use it wherever I can - heck there's an Arch package! I'm pleasantly surprised by how much something this simple makes me happy. Legitimately a font has added to my life.
slow_typist 12 hours ago
Thanks, I couldn’t spot a license on the website, but existence of an arch package does probably mean the license is okayish.
JdeBP 12 hours ago
Go and read the source code on the GitHub repository that the page links to as "Downloads". There's a LICENSE.md there, and a fair amount besides.
jve 11 hours ago
nitinreddy88 12 hours ago
Once we use Berkeley mono font, we will never switch to another one :)
Whenever font discussions come up, I will try everyones suggestions to find better than what I have, and always came back to Berkeley. Its almost near perfect for coding!
snthd 12 hours ago
In that direction there's
https://github.com/ahatem/IoskeleyMono
>Iosevka configuration to mimic the look and feel of Berkeley Mono as closely as possible.
Discussed recently https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49161743
farlight 11 hours ago
It has very poor character coverage, especially compared to Iosevka whose author speaks Mandarin as his main language (IIRC), and put a lot of effort into supporting as many languages as possible.
kstrauser 7 hours ago
Berkeley Mono ruined everything else for me. It’s so, so good.
Zizizizz 5 hours ago
While I appreciate it's aesthetic, it's too blocky for my personal taste
cyberpunk 8 hours ago
I was looking forward to their new one (houston something?) for a couple years but seems all reference to it on their website has been removed.
Shame.
c-hendricks 7 hours ago
Way too wide for me, plus as others mentioned you can get really close with Iosevka, but for free.
andreypopp 12 hours ago
You meant Pragmata Pro :)
cogburnd02 7 hours ago
There's a lot to like about Pragmata Pro, but I'll never use a terminal font that isn't OFL.
BOOSTERHIDROGEN 8 hours ago
why tho, berkeley mono ftw.
amoshebb 12 hours ago
There is an iosekeley remix that is nice as well for those who don’t want to splash out for Berkeley mono
InfiniteQwert 8 hours ago
I'm partial to Gintronic personally
bowsamic 12 hours ago
I use Commit Mono, which is basically a free version of Berkeley Mono
Waterluvian 4 hours ago
Any time I point font-seekers to Iosevka's Repo, I never hear from them again. Surely that's a testament to the quality of treatment.
ferd 2 hours ago
M PLUS Code https://mplusfonts.github.io/
The most underrated font ever.
botanical 7 hours ago
I've been using Iosevka for more than 5 years now, it seems odd using anything else. The author is prolific and has made it really easy to build your own customised version. I don't think I'll ever move from using it.
blep-arsh 7 hours ago
But have you tried Comic Sans Mono?
dorianniemiec 4 hours ago
It was such an interesting font that when I saw another font "Ioskeley Mono", I decided to customize it myself: https://github.com/ferronweb/iron-mono :)
dkuntz2 3 hours ago
"glyphs are exactly 1/2em wide". whut. 1em is the width of the M character. glyphs are exactly 1 em wide, they just happen to have a slim m.
Mikhail_Edoshin 2 hours ago
A more useful definition of an em is the nominal font height.
ocd 4 hours ago
For me, Iosevka will always be the one that worked. It got me to abandon bitmap fonts.
Iosevka, a proper fontconfig, and this value `export FREETYPE_PROPERTIES="cff:no-stem-darkening=0 autofitter:no-stem-darkening=0"` are all I ever needed.
einpoklum 4 hours ago
What does that setting do?
ocd 3 hours ago
I can't say precisely, but it fixed a lot of the blurring and bad rendering in general for me. I found it in a couple articles mentioning it, this is one: https://blog.aktsbot.in/no-more-blurry-fonts.html
moecables 5 hours ago
I love all kinds of monospace fonts, there's just so much you can do with a fixed width font!
My personal daily drivers are SF Mono and Berkeley Mono.
weinzierl 13 hours ago
It also has many weights. In my opinion it's one of the best monospaced fonts where you actually can use weight as an additional dimension in syntax highlighting.
remark5396 8 hours ago
If you are looking for Iosevka with CJK characters, check out Sarasa Gothic.
edg5000 8 hours ago
I've been using Droid Sans Mono for everything mono for a long time and can recommend it. But this font might be great too. Any Droid Sans Mono lovers out there?
kanbankaren 6 hours ago
Actually, I hate it. zero is not crossed, right?
Fonts from Google have been bland and monotonous. The only nice font that Google released is Spectral(from France), but it is a proportional serif font.
exceptione 11 hours ago
Wish code editors would support different fonts per semantic region. Jetbrains, if you are reading this, implement this: <https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IJPL-29552/Allow-differ...>.
The heading of Iosevka doesn't do the font right, my first thought was that this would be yet another soulless sans-serif. But it has tons of interesting variants. Hats of to Iosevka Etoile. See also <https://monaspace.githubnext.com> if you like big versatile font families.
antiframe 2 hours ago
> Wish code editors would support different fonts per semantic region
They absolutely do. In Emacs I use different faces for comments, tables in literate sections, and code blocks. I use the same font for all those faces, but different attributes (size, weight, etc).
I also have configured different fonts for different unicode code points, so that when I include Cyrillic or Japanese text I can use a font with better code point coverage that my preferred fonts.
It always astounds me how unconfigurable most editors are.
leduyquang753 6 hours ago
I fell in love with the narrow width of Iosevka which saved quite a bit of screen space for other things. Although there are always some people that loathe whenever I post screenshots of code using the font, "the m looks like a solid block of pixels" and the like.
trolleski 2 hours ago
Impressive. Very nice. Let's see Paul Allen's font...
Schlagbohrer 9 hours ago
Their examples of their font made me fall in love with an alternative, IBM Plex, that they showed. IBM Plex shows more of their example assembly code than any of the other three, and quite clearly.
brzz 9 hours ago
Yeah, IBM Plex Mono is near flawless imo
falsaberN1 5 hours ago
I've been using Iosevka for years now, it's definitely one of my favorites. What I enjoy the most is that it's narrow, so I can cram more data per line.
I use both the standard/fixed versions and Aile and Etoile for UI.
rf15 13 hours ago
Good to know that the age old tradition of calling a font with serifs sans-serif is well alive and kicking.
The reason here is that the basic glyph shape is that of a sans-serif, but still got serifs added afterwards. That doesn't stop it from diluting the meaning of the term.
wartywhoa23 12 hours ago
Iosevka can perfectly be either sans-serif, or serif, or a mixture - it's customizable.
Freak_NL 10 hours ago
Iosevka is more of a parfois-serif I guess.
farlight 11 hours ago
Slab serif is optional.
xigoi 11 hours ago
Where do you see the serifs?
rf15 11 hours ago
...In the submitted Title and on the page itself. It says it is a sans-serif font, but then offers also a slab-serif variant.
xigoi 37 minutes ago
tremon 10 hours ago
ashton314 7 hours ago
I really dislike how narrow it is. Fortunately that is customizable! This is my version that I’ve modeled off of Input Mono: https://codeberg.org/ashton314/iosevka-output
est 8 hours ago
For those not aware, Iosevka is the font that gives you perfec vertical alignment in monospace tables/flowcharts with CJK/emojis.
meerita 6 hours ago
Got introduced to Iosevka through watching Tsoding. Really cool coding font.
cschep 3 hours ago
Whenever I read it I hear his voice pronounce the name of it in my mind. What a delight.
nielsbot 6 hours ago
meta: if you are a heretic like me, use a proportional coding font. (in 2026 we can move past 80-column terminal style coding)
for this, i like Input Sans a lot.
nickisnoble 6 hours ago
Have you seen the newer variable demo? https://typeset.djr.com/?ff=input&l=1.362&u=px&s=20&c=85a44d...
nielsbot 2 hours ago
Thanks for the link!
strenholme 8 hours ago
It’s nice to see this font have a slab serif, because monospace serif fonts are quite rare (I don’t consider Courier a serif). The only other monospace serif font I can think of is Monaspace Xenon. [1]
[1] There was also at one point a monospace variant of Bitstream Vera Serif called “Verily Serif”.
JdeBP 12 hours ago
It is interesting that it differentiates between oblique and italic, something that not many fonts aimed at the monospace crowd do, in both the English and Cyrillic alphabets. The list of variants for the letter k is longer than I expected.
Alas, it is oblong, not square.
And 7 thousand-odd code points is not as large a range as it used to be a couple of decades ago. That said, it does have MouseText, the 7-segment LED digits, and suchlike from the Supplementary Plane 1.
climech 10 hours ago
I remember falling in love with PragmataPro many years ago, I really like narrow fonts, but I couldn’t afford it (I don’t remember how much it was at the time but it was something insane, at least for my wallet). Then Iosevka entered the scene, and I never looked back. Really awesome project, especially the customization part.
tehno 9 hours ago
Fabrizio has dropped the price by 40% typically on Black Friday sales. I missed that window and bough full price though, no regrets, it's one of the first customizations to go on a new OS install for me.
rbanffy 6 hours ago
11 years old. Congratulations!
jwr 11 hours ago
This is the best font I have ever found, and I have tried a lot of them over the years. The ability to specify your own variations and generate your own fonts is really useful. I am a big fan of the dotted zero, for example.
The readability is excellent, and this font replaced everything else that I tried before. Highly recommended!
mcookly 7 hours ago
Although this may not apply to many, Iosevka is one of the few monospace fonts with excellent support for polytonic Greek.
fenprace 12 hours ago
I ve been using iosevka for 5+ years. Iosevka Extended is my go-t mono font. It's just clean and cool.
One thing I definitely love is it's easy to access. It has been packed for many package managers. I can just brew install or yay -S to get it.
hobo123 8 hours ago
Nice that it's specifically designed to be narrow columns, so you can fit more on screen. Will try this for coding.
jehnnysmith 6 hours ago
Beautiful font! Only problem is people are not writing code by hand anymore.
DiabloD3 5 hours ago
I don't think LLMs are ever going to take off in the coding space. Even the largest proponents of it have quit due to the exceptionally bad code quality.
The only place it works is dumb boilerplate generation (ie, a smarter replacement for templates), but the real fix for that is just jettisoning languages that beat you to death with boilerplate; its 2026, stop using C++ and Java.
I've extensively tried every LLM model, commercial or not, and for real languages like Rust or Zig, they perform poorly, and for footgun-laden languages like C++ or Java or Python, it just hands you the footgun and helps you aim the thing.
jehnnysmith 5 hours ago
> I don't think LLMs are ever going to take off in the coding space
Are you living under a rock? o_o
DiabloD3 4 hours ago
F3nd0 5 hours ago
I’m still not sure what to think of their capabilities, so I’m curious to see where ambitious vibe-coded projects like Raku++ [1] will go.
brzz 5 hours ago
Sure buddy
janOla 4 hours ago
This is such a good font. I like how the process used to make it takes inspiration from Donald Knuth's Metafont.
allumik 12 hours ago
Used Iosevka for a while, now fully on Aporetic for everything monospace. Something about the thin and tall serif just clicks with me, and Aporetic seemed to work better size wise for my terminals and GUIs.
wartywhoa23 12 hours ago
That's still Iosevka though, just a custom build.
DiabloD3 4 hours ago
As a reminder, my manifesto: https://github.com/Diablo-D3/dotfiles/blob/master/fontsizes....
The part you'd all be interested is the table at the bottom: ideal font size to get the most out of your favorite code font, but also ordered by font size (for maximum code density on screen while still being readable).
Even though vector fonts are, well, vectors and not bitmaps, they often are fuzzy or misshapen at some sizes. The only way to objectively judge a font is to view it at it's best. Some fonts are objectively bad.
Iosevka is my daily driver, but not the most dense font on the list.
huqedato 7 hours ago
Nice but I still prefer JuliaMono.
dTal 7 hours ago
My personal favorite. Very underrated font, judging by this thread.
beeforpork 11 hours ago
Is there a PDF specimen? I disable font substitution in my browser, but I do want to have a peek. But not a peek that requires reconfiguring my browser.
masfuerte 10 hours ago
Same here. There are several pictures on the github page:
LewisOrton 7 hours ago
How did I not know this until today? it's so beautiful, thanks so much!
duxup 6 hours ago
On iOS, Firefox the text on the page overlaps in places.
gadrev 12 hours ago
Nice one. I used it for some years, mostly in urxvt.
Some time ago I switched to wayland/sway/foot, and I'm on 0xProtoNerdFont, quite pleasant as well.
__mharrison__ 8 hours ago
Have been using this in my terminal, editors, and books for a few years.
Lovely font.
extr 6 hours ago
Truly the GOAT font. Nothing else compares.
huffer 7 hours ago
Kids, gather 'round, story time: my first computer when I was a kid was a communist hacky clone of a ZX Spectrum; and at one point I managed to install CP/M on it (I had no idea at the time what an OS was, I just intuit that it was a 'big deal'); and for whatever reason, this OS used a very tall and narrow font and I loved it sooo much that ever since then, I associate the tall narrow fonts with the halcyon time of excitement and exploration of those innocent days.
I put Iosevka everywhere, not only in text editors but browsers and other desktop apps. It's one of the first things to do on a fresh machine. Thank you very much, @be5invis!
amelius 9 hours ago
Great font! Requires some getting-used-to but saves a lot of screen space!
sgarrity 11 hours ago
What does “quasi-proportional” mean?
noisem4ker 4 hours ago
Possibly something similar to GitHub Monaspace's "texture healing" [1], i.e. variable-width characters individually centered on a fixed grid, for which e.g. an "m" is wider when placed next to an "i"?
...or maybe something much less sophisticated: it just keeps the appearance of the main fixed-width variant you'd use for code, but it's a slightly-variable width variant for plain text, where vertical alignment isn't important.
jaffa2 10 hours ago
I had this question. Then I read the bit of the page with the sentence that starts ‘The quasi-proportional families:’
thechairman12 6 hours ago
Why is this at the top of hackernews?
drob518 6 hours ago
Because it’s Hacker News.
metalliqaz 3 hours ago
It's a very good font for me because I care very much about density. Iosevka is by far the highest horizontal density I've ever used. However I have usually fallen back to Consolas, which IMHO the greatest monospace font ever made. The density is very high and it is very readable. There is no doubt that Iosevka is more attractive, but for some reason Consolas "feels" better at similar density.
InfiniteQwert 9 hours ago
I know it’s not all that common, but I still really like Gintronic
voidUpdate 11 hours ago
> "glyphs are exactly 1/2em wide"
The M is 1/2 of an M wide?
einpoklum 11 hours ago
Yes. That is, for a given x-height, the width of an 'M' half of what it "should" be for that x-height. According to this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Em_(typography)
it seems the width of an M should be exactly equal to the x-height in points (IIUC).
voidUpdate 11 hours ago
> However, as a very rough guideline, an "average" font might have [...] an x-height of 48% of the em
einpoklum 4 hours ago
jbverschoor 9 hours ago
Victor Mono still the best for dense terminals
sho_hn 12 hours ago
Iosevka Fixed Curly is also my favorite font to code and terminal in.
matltc 7 hours ago
InconsolataGo is all that is needed
baldgamer79 10 hours ago
This is really cool looking but it is really heavy on filesize. How did we get from few KBs to hundreds of MB this quickly these past few years?
antiframe 2 hours ago
Mostly codepoint coverage.
exwireXI 12 hours ago
I've been using Iosevka(custom) and loved it since then.
chiefwilsion 8 hours ago
the font never worked right for me. the variants were not recognized in vscode
einpoklum 4 hours ago
This set of fonts takes up 2.4 GB (yes, that's Giga, not Mega) bytes when you download the release. Each one is over 50 MB in size.
bitwize 4 hours ago
Iosevka has supplanted Envy Code R as my favorite monospace editor font.
expelwide 8 hours ago
I prefer Pragmasevka
Frone125 7 hours ago
Really awesome. Glad it is being open sourced
einpoklum 11 hours ago
What does it mean for a font (or typeface) to be "quasi‑proportional"?
Also, whoever said that fonts intended for a terminal need to be narrower? Some terminals have narrower chars, some wider. And terminal emulators often allow for multiple char aspect ratios - e.g. via bitmap fonts of different aspect ratio.
Anyway, the typeface looks interesting, but I would have liked for the creators to compare and contrast it with existing (and popular) monospace / terminal-oriented typefaces.
Freak_NL 10 hours ago
Scroll down to where they do that under Spatial Efficient.
octoberfranklin 6 hours ago
You can pry my PragmataPro license from my cold, dead hands.
bowsamic 12 hours ago
I felt like my eyes hurt when I tried this font. It's hard for me to switch away from the standard width monospace fonts. At the moment I use Commit Mono. Extra horizontal space might be nice but it's not worth risking any discomfort
orphereus 13 hours ago
Does tsoding use this font?
teh64 6 hours ago
ehecatl42 11 hours ago
Victor Mono, I believe.
poly2it 13 hours ago
I believe so.
djvu97 12 hours ago
yes
IceDane 13 hours ago
I occasionally try to find a nicer font than Iosevka, but none of them stick and I always go back.
ggcr 7 hours ago
Comic Code ;) You won't regret it, been using it 5 years.
Diti 12 hours ago
Pragmata Pro. The font Iosevka is based on.
durdn 10 hours ago
Interesting cycle, someone making Iosevka more pragmatapro like here: https://github.com/shytikov/pragmasevka
pndy 10 hours ago
I've replaced Iosevka with Nokia Sans on KDE and earlier Xfce
nerdypepper 12 hours ago
input.djr.com, haven't used a different font in many years!
triggis 12 hours ago
What about Maple Mono?
Zizizizz 5 hours ago
They're my two favourite! Iosevka edges it as Maple looks slightly fuzzier to me for some reason but they are both great. I have to use the narrow or slim version of it though
gpessia 12 hours ago
love Maple Mono!
phplovesong 7 hours ago
Was a user, its a really nice font. Then i found Berkeley Mono, that has been the daily deiver for the past 5-6 years.
7e 8 hours ago
Buy the original PragmataPro and support original creators. The rest are ripoffs, plain and simpls, copied by leeches.
elric 7 hours ago
Can you elaborate? Are you saying iosevka is a PragmataPro ripoff?
Zizizizz 5 hours ago
The SS08 version is influenced heavily by it, but Pragmata is quite horizontally squished I find. Iosevka had a bit more space vertically between the lines.
cflewis 6 hours ago
Yes, because it is.
Support independent devs and designers. Pay the money.
elric 6 hours ago
neutronenkind 8 hours ago
oh thats a good one!
kbesplv 6 hours ago
looks amazing
HackerThemAll 11 hours ago
Half a gig for a single variant of this font? No, thank you. That just doesn't make any sense. Perform some minification and/or publish just TTF or OTF.
TaLiTr 8 hours ago
Maybe read again? The font variants are 50 MB, not 500. That seems like an average size for a font with such broad language support.
c-hendricks 7 hours ago
My build is about 16mb.
dizhn 12 hours ago
It's a google score thing right. That the first font that loads is not their font on a font page?
sick_of_slop 9 hours ago
Used this font for years, even made my own custom build for it because the many many many provided ones were not just quite right for my preference.
These days I'm using Maple Mono though.