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True. Also, if this is really Leah, congrats on the release and thanks for all your hard work on this over the years.

Do you have absolutely no self-awareness?

> U-Boot upstream itself is staunchly anti-AI, at least at the time of this release, and much discussion of the above was had on their mailing list.

I saw this as well, which is funny because I've sent plenty of patches written using AI assistance to upstream U-Boot. It was my understanding that U-Boot was mostly following kernel conventions in general as many U-Boot drivers share code(in addition to the actual subsystem maintainers themselves) with their kernel equivalents.

> de-slopping them and possibly even forking

Or, hear me out, they could instead just improve and contribute the code they think is suboptimal

I have learned to treat statements like that as a general red flag.

Someone who acts like a radical on practical issues will almost certainly act like a radical in other areas as well - including areas that matter to me.

There are debates to be had on every technology, but foaming-at-the-mouth kind of talk is a sure sign of a maintainer (and by extension a project) I want nothing to do with.

I respect projects with a no AI policy, but if that policy starts with the words “fuck no”, I’m out of there.

This list seems...odd. For instance, the list decries the permissive AI policy of the Linux kernel, of Fedora, of Bazzite/Bluefin/etc...and then includes Secureblue as an alternative...?

Secureblue is a neat project, but as you say, this would make more sense as a generic discovery list. If you want to avoid projects with a permissive AI policy, you should probably take into account that Secureblue is based on bluebuild (from the Bazzite team), Fedora, Linux, etc etc etc.

Yeah, I saw this "open-slopware" list listing many battle-tested web servers as "permissive AI policy", while one of the alternatives (not all though, some inherit battle-testing) isn't really battle-tested. In fact, I saw entangled codebase and not-so-good coding practices.

> software discovery list

You're not kidding, I feel like this is better than most of those awesome-X lists that were popular for a while.

It is indeed a list, though not everyone will use it the same way!

But will you still feel this way once you try to actually use that software?

how are they different? did the algorithms upon which they operate suddenly change?

Ai and privacy in the same sentence is wierd. You supported your argument, I guess, but unless you are using local ai, the developer would be sacrificing their own privacy.

The current hope is to eventually upstream the “fork” (Gravity) into the Linux kernel. The Asahi project can continue to run in parallel.

The Linux kernel extensively uses AI now; most lkml submissions have an Assisted-by: LLM tag.

Free Software was a moral & ideological issue to Stallman.

I feel people have the right to bring any sort of issue into the projects they make. Nobody is forced to participate.

I get it, but everything is ideological -- whether you want to hear about it or not.

In a world where software exerts considerable control and influence over peoples' lives, your ability to insulate yourself from that influence is a priveledge. Software IS ideological. Free software was created so people can have the freedom to share and collaborate on their own terms. There is an extent to which it gets extreme, but without the GPL we would live in an even more monopolistic "free" market hell world than we already do. That's a moral obligation that spawned a practical one. If no one ever took a moral stance because you find it annoying, the world would be an objectively worse place.

Are you publishing anywhere that I can follow? In particular, it would be really helpful if you could publish the prompts and workflow, so that the rest of us can more quickly use it to replicate your work on other machines:)

(Signed, the owner of several Chromebooks in need of better firmware)

I think it's better that some people have strong opinions. For example, the world would suck if everyone was rms, but he has nevertheless had a positive impact on the world imo.

Someone can always fork it if they find themselves sufficiently outraged.

Agree in general, though with Libreboot the pedantry is more or less the point of the project. You fork a project and put 'libre' in the name, I personally see that as a statement of dedication and expect you to stick to those guns. The experiment isnt much of an experiment otherwise.

Coreboot still exists.

Well, maybe you can bring it into the future with your favorite LLM!

> Cool, that's why open source projects get left behind. The attitude

They're making a political choice. It's a free country, and more power to them.

It's not a choice that I necessarily agree with, but one that may - who knows - prove prescient 5 years down the road.

No one can predict the future, that's what politics are partly about and the reason why diversity of opinion of choice matters.

Do you have a crystal ball?

And yet people who are training models need more and more open source software to feed the beast. Quite the conundrum.

Linus's take is just the same nonsensical false equivalence I've seen a million times. He sure has fallen a long way since his glory days.

Someone should ask him if he's also planning on no longer reviewing patches to the kernel and just accepting them unconditionally, since AI is no different from a compiler after all, and nobody reviews compiler outputs.

You say "faith-based political filter," I say "standing on principles." Your valuation of outcomes and outputs over inputs and intent is also a faith-based political filter, in that they make the value judgement that outputs are the only thing that matter when shipping a product or managing a project.

Wrong Pixel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromebook_Pixel

Oehhhhhhhhhhh Might check that out.

I realize that, but what's the selling point of Libreboot on Chromebooks when Coreboot is already supported, and it merely merged in support from Coreboot?