I built a drone with only one motor [video] (youtube.com)

216 points by hakonjdjohnsen 12 hours ago

nadermx an hour ago

This is well worth the entire watch. It feels like what would any hacker do in trying to figure out how to make something they want to exist. Also very well presented and good pace.

Inspires me to try and start doing some robotics.

mikeyouse an hour ago

Love the little side project of building a high resolution high speed camera to investigate the flutter.

JacobAsmuth 25 minutes ago

Only to figure out that the vibration in his drone was due to vibration and it was easily fixed by swapping to rotors that he should've used in the first place. Oh well! Live and learn.

TGower 2 hours ago

Underactuated robotics are so cool. In the hobby BattleBots community, there is a design where the whole robot only has a single motor, but it's able to move in any direction and damage the opponent, all just by controlling the single motor's speed.

Most robots have at least three motors, two drive sides and a weapon motor. The trick to getting away with one is integrating an impactor into the chassis of your bot, using the single wheel to spin up to ~3k RPM, then by tracking the rotation angle of the bot as it spins, you speed up a little while the wheel is pointing where you want to go, and slow it down a little when it's pointing the other direction.

Onavo 2 hours ago

Well not just battlebots, real life 6th gen fighters now all lack the vertical stabilizer so they have to rely on very sensitive real-time software control of the elevator/spoilerons to do banks and yaws. Not sure if it counts as under-actuated but they are tremendously difficult to steer without computer control.

schiffern 28 minutes ago

  >Not sure if it counts as under-actuated
Generally these aircraft still have three+ actuators, they just replace the rudder with differential spoiler or split elevons. Three actuators, three axes. Same number, so it's not under-actuated.

You're referencing the fact that it's dynamically unstable, and thus needs to be stabilized with a computer. That's a different thing.

You can also have aircraft which are under-actuated yet are dynamically stable. One example is a parafoil, which achieves controlled flight using only two actuators (pull lines).

jmaw an hour ago

I'm not super familiar with heavy equipment like dozers and such, but some of them may also have a single motor to pressurize hydraulic fluid and valves to articulate the various pistons. So may be able to make the argument there too

bluGill an hour ago

nomel an hour ago

KolmogorovComp an hour ago

> but they are tremendously difficult to steer without computer control.

they are not humanly pilotable without computers. they are inherently unstable.

_joel 32 minutes ago

This is from the same guy (Joshua Bird) that built the 4 axis 3d printer (and special algo for it too) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEgwnhLHy3g

leoedin 11 hours ago

A really neat concept. It uses a special hinge design, a magnetic encoder and torque modulation to control the lift of the rotor as it spins. Completely negates the need for a conventional helicopter's swash plate.

The single motor does have the pretty major downside that it spins the moment it's in the air. I suspect a 2 motor drone with a tail motor would be a lot more practical. But I really like how mechanically simple the rotor hinge design is - it pushes all the complexity into the control algorithm.

schiffern 6 hours ago

Note that the concept itself has been done before in RC helicopters. The only difference here is using a one-propeller drone.

https://hackaday.com/2020/06/25/building-and-flying-a-helico...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d80oXSCcHTk

fwipsy 2 hours ago

Yep, he mentions the video you linked as well. (Mentioning because I watched the video you linked first.)

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Aboutplants 2 hours ago

Perhaps there are specific applications where the payload spinning could be an advantage, imaging/scanning perhaps (which in the video is going to be in the next iteration for the builder).

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razster 15 minutes ago

subprotocol 2 hours ago

Reminded me of the Manhack: https://half-life.fandom.com/wiki/Manhack

mogili 2 hours ago

It's a pretty cool concept, however, fails to mention coaxial rotor design that has a single motor and has much simpler control systems. I am also curious on how this affects frame vibration.

This is a newer trend in mechanical design that leverages more complex control software to overcome mechanical issues. A good example is https://turntide.com/

nomel an hour ago

If I understand correctly, those are single rotor but NOT single motor. This is a single motor design, which is why it's neat. There are no additional control servos/motors.

stbtrax an hour ago

It’s an entertainmening YouTube video not a phd thesis. Bizzare standard to hold him to

jcims an hour ago

Side note, I used those same moteus controllers for a decidedly less energetic use case (two axis gimbal for RF satellite tracking) and found them to be super high quality and the lead developer always super helpful. Been a few years but def worth a look if you want to get into motor control.

sastra an hour ago

The Picocolissimo also uses only one motor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE47bcCxT_I

mainecoder 10 hours ago

Amazing work this is really innovative and it could be applied to a larger drones provided that the margin of error is reduced.

tintor an hour ago

How will this new tech affect the current drone war between Russia and Ukraine?

Smaller, cheaper, more numerous offensive drones?

gpm 32 minutes ago

I strongly doubt adding a ton of extra weight in aerodynamic surfaces, and drag, and complex mechanical parts, to avoid a few motors/servos is worth it in that context.

nhma 26 minutes ago

This tech is more than a decade old, originally from UPenn AFAIK[0].

[0] https://youtube.com/watch?v=aEPf0QHVuMM

eimrine an hour ago

maybe new breakthroughs for the darpa project. kamikazes drones do not need so advanced prop tbh it is against the idea of being cheap.

johnnyApplePRNG an hour ago

I am torn about drone tech now.

I used to be super stoked about it.

But watching drones kill civilians kind of ruined it. [0]

Then again ... they do put a dent in superpowers powers apparently so ... like I said ... I am torn.

[0] https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/czdmrm6y7r0o

aeternum 38 minutes ago

To be fair, a lot of it is moving to drones killing drones.

My prediction is that future wars will actually involve increasingly fewer humans and will be more about tech+manufacturing vs. tech+manufacturing. And of course insurgents + lowcost tech vs. increasingly nonlethal hightech.

This would allow wars to continue without as much of the growing political backlash.

_joel 11 minutes ago

The next iteration is the drones removing those pesky humans from the command chain too :/

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russellbeattie 2 hours ago

It's incredible that changes in velocity still work to adjust the angle of the blades even at the insane speeds they're moving at. I would never have thought that was possible.

I have to wonder why this guy didn't give his drone a leash while testing so it couldn't go flying off. It's the first thing that popped into my head, so I'm sure it's something he thought of as well and didn't use for a good reason. Maybe a string would get caught in the blades?

z3ugma an hour ago

Possibly the fact that the TPU fin body doesn't stop all counterrotation so the leash would get twisted into a cord and interfere with flight?

maximilianthe1 35 minutes ago

print a slipring

walrus01 an hour ago

There's also been a few people building monocopters with a fixed, non tilting motor and prop, and four servo motor actuated fins at the bottom that can be used for thrust vectoring and to counter rotational forces.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2cETOyuJ20

razster 10 minutes ago

Neat. I wonder if you could use the air it generates by having directional ports louvers that open and allow the air to flow for more control. Would need 2 more servo, left/right port louvers.

gspr an hour ago

I love this angle so much! Do you know if there's been more detailed analysis of performance?