OpenAI CLI (github.com)

54 points by armcat 2 hours ago

throw20261022 an hour ago

Be careful getting too deep in OpenAI tooling because they end up deprecating almost everything in under two years, sometimes without even a formal notice.

Everything they make these days looks to be strongly vibecoded without a decent review or functional testing. This leads to basic avoidable bugs that annoy vast numbers of users.

Not only this, but when you point out an issue to them on GitHub, they have a history of blocking the reporting user instead of tackling the technical issue.

eddythompson80 an hour ago

At this point, it’s safe to assume all net-new software is vibecoded. Who in their right mind would take a month to create an MVP when a bot can spit it out in an afternoon? Existing software isn’t necessarily immune, but there are still individuals that are fighting (or resisting the change) to keep their code base human readable. It’s a losing battle. Eventually those people are either gonna change their minds, leave or be pushed out. Then the agents will be unleashed upon those code bases too.

Chyzwar 2 minutes ago

This is not unique problem to vibecoding. Google was killing products before LLM and forcing you into deprecation churn loop for years. Problem is companies without strategy trying things and then moving to next shiny thing.

I am still salty about anthropic killing Claude design in December.

pianopatrick 9 minutes ago

Yeah, but then you get the user's side. Will users really trust and rely on software that was vibe coded in an afternoon? Maybe for games, but for something like a CLI you would depend on - do you want to depend on someone's vibe coded in an afternoon project?

kikdij 13 minutes ago

Saying "surely, everybody does X" is a sure way to be wrong. You're even spectacularly failing at making your own point by acknowledging in the very same comment that there are, in fact, people not doing it. Some people are different from you, deal with it.

That being said, it's true than we can assume most of new software are generated. No need for hyperbole on that. An interesting fact is that it makes grandfather's concern moot: people who are generating their code don't care much if a dependency goes unmaintained, they can have it replaced by an other one in matter of minutes.

There's an other objection to openai-cli we could raise, though: why use a generalist developer tool, containing probably hundred of features we don't need, when we could make a bespoke specialized version, perfectly fit to us, in like 25 minutes? I can get that there are audiences where this would not even come to mind to the users, but we're talking about a developer tool, here. The value of that is questionable. And ironically, those who might from benefit it the most are those who don't want to generate their code.

rkuodys 13 minutes ago

While I agree with the premise, I would argue with the conclusion. Yes agents can and do code fast. But if you're integrating software in business where people work in some patterns, more often than not there are "real life" happening. You learn that only by operating a system long enough to know these things. And competence accumulates, and the value of provider increases with the learned patterns. I think many devs live in tech world which is sometimes detached from physical world, world where people actually has to do some work, which takes time and system working in technical sense, doesnt work in practical sense.

anonymous908213 27 minutes ago

> Who in their right mind would take a month to create an MVP when a bot can spit it out in an afternoon

The people who need something more than an MVP, I would suppose. Bot sure does spit out a prototype faster than any human can, but actually building on that dogshit prototype becomes slower than someone with a clue writing by hand.

orphereus 32 minutes ago

This type of comments is making me insane.

eddythompson80 13 minutes ago

frevib 18 minutes ago

redanddead 27 minutes ago

jiggawatts 17 minutes ago

vasco 28 minutes ago

I'm so curious what you do when the providers go down. Do you tell your boss you can't fix the incident because your token quota is out?

bojan 12 minutes ago

kikdij 12 minutes ago

geraldwhen 14 minutes ago

ilteris 20 minutes ago

BikiniPrince 36 minutes ago

It’s all greenfield and I’m not surprised to see deprecation. Eventually tooling will distill into what works.

xnickb an hour ago

Makes sense. Very hard for humans to keep up with LLM-generated code. But LLMs/Agents have no problem with this. So they are using the dev style that would drive their business towards generating more money. A funny concept for a non-profit organization.

ywvcbk an hour ago

I don't see how buggy software directly leads to generating more money? A company being successful doesn't somehow magically make them infallible, 100% rational or immune to making mistakes (as you are implying).

XenophileJKO 37 minutes ago

albert_e 17 minutes ago

Does this consume the monthly flat rate subscription quota or API credits.

Does Anthropic have something similar.

I understand "claude -p" has been unreliable to use with subscription quota and often required "extra usage" credits.

mi_lk an hour ago

When should I use this over Codex? Is this supposed to be called by other tools/agents?

NothingAboutAny 23 minutes ago

that was my assumption, maybe you use Claude but want it to use OpenAI image generation or something. this got a physical shrug out of me.

imdsm an hour ago

Codex = agent harness

OpenAI CLI = wrapper around API

theanonymousone an hour ago

> wrapper around API

aka curl? :-/

BikiniPrince 35 minutes ago

hahahacorn 2 hours ago

I imagine the play is RL your model to solve problems using your own tools which it knows how to use most efficiently until it defaults to using services like managed agents, etc.

Honestly surprised this wasn't available sooner.