My AI agents found an unmapped Maya site? (pietromiotti.com)

1005 points by eyvindn a day ago

LordOmlette a day ago

The site in question was found earlier: https://bsky.app/profile/indyfromspace.bsky.social/post/3n22...

The Mexican govt may not have had the right records, but you can see what the site looked like at the time it was first found here: https://bsky.app/profile/indyfromspace.bsky.social/post/3n22...

tangotaylor a day ago

Here is the referenced publication. Pages 13-14 show the structures. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352409X2...

_alternator_ 20 hours ago

The Yucatán peninsula is remarkably flat. I've walked to the top of Ek Balam, and you can just see little of green all around the surrounding landscape; I suspect a number of them are uncleared (not undiscovered) Mayan structures. The forest is quite dense, but these are fairly obvious.

They are often left undisturbrd for a number of reasons, including that archeological techniques are fundamentally destructive. Leaving sites for future people to explore also leaves intact knowledge that future technologies may be better able to uncover.

mlmonkey 20 hours ago

If it was already published a year ago, what are the chances that was already in the training data?

tantalor a day ago

The first thing I saw when I tried to follow this link is a captcha. So it's no wonder that the agent wasn't able to find this. We are siloing our knowledge unnecessarily.

vohk 21 hours ago

nickalaso 21 hours ago

rurban 21 hours ago

jazzyjackson 21 hours ago

natebc 21 hours ago

clickety_clack 21 hours ago

georgeburdell a day ago

Clicked the GP link and I got a “this post is private” page. Clicked your link and got a Cloudflare page that hangs and I can’t move past. That’s the Internet in 2026

Jtsummers 21 hours ago

alpineman a day ago

Did his Gemini AI agents just use Google search, find the publication, check the coords, and claim it as a discovery? Ha

heydenberk 21 hours ago

To some extent it's still an interesting result: an independent validation of the original finding, and a proof of concept that this technique could make such a discovery.

thinkcontext 21 hours ago

I hope he collaborates with archeologists to apply these methods to their work.

MisterMunchkin 11 hours ago

igleria 21 hours ago

IF the llm did not have the paper on it's training set. Which we do not know.

marricks 13 hours ago

bunderbunder an hour ago

Not really. Based on a quick literature scan (it took much less than 72 hours) the technique the blog post indicates is downright primitive compared to how working archaeologists are doing it nowadays.

The main thing I see here is yet another demonstration of LLMs’ ability to boost people’s overconfidence.

wtch98 3 hours ago

> independent validation

Or the LLM had ingested the original report and thus knew what/where it was looking

nonethewiser 20 hours ago

This post can't be seen if you arent signed in.

gnoll_of_gozag 3 hours ago

nilamo 21 hours ago

Those are both dead links...

crznthndr 19 hours ago

Could this info have aided AI ?

empath75 19 hours ago

One way to take this is that this shows that the agents can't discover anything new, another way to take this is as confirmation that the AI can correctly identify the same sites that human experts can, and just suck at searching literature.

TZubiri 21 hours ago

even if it was discovered, I'd say most of the accolades go to NASA and LIDAR, the fact that AI agents were used to discover it isn't a big deal.

sand500 16 hours ago

There are a lot of things that generate massive amounts of data(e.g. LHC, Vera Rubin). Finding something useful in the data is also challenging. Its pretty cool how low the barrier to entry is these days.

TZubiri 13 hours ago

0815beck 7 hours ago

sigmar a day ago

>remote sensing is difficult and any archaeologist knows to triple check before saying something is "new"

>Francisco was very kind and shared his publication image with me

...can she post the pdf?

Seems likely the google SWE that wrote the blog wouldn't have claimed this was new if there was a public way to access this information. I understand archaeologists have valid reasons to keep location details private, but complaining the OP didn't "check" thoroughly (when she can't link to the data he should checked in order to validate it was new) reads more like a shortcoming in how this knowledge is shared than a failure of OP to check.

igleria a day ago

OG_BME 21 hours ago

numlock86 21 hours ago

> This author has chosen to make their posts visible only to people who are signed in.

I thought Bluesky was supposed to be better than X/Twitter, not worse. Bummer.

ralfd 20 hours ago

Cant open the links as one needs an account. Is there a xitter gor bluesky?

lbrito 21 hours ago

Then the title is misleading, yes? Should be something like "Google SWE uses AI to find a pyramid site that was already discovered".

Not news.

infecto 21 hours ago

Ironic going to a blue sky link that is blocked by login.

igleria a day ago

So now this apparently amazing feat that was rushed into publication is actually just an out of date DB.

Peer review also protects the authors for making a fool of themselves. QED.

cuvinny a day ago

Looks like it was peer (or rather superior) reviewed. I don't think the author was trying to be malicious and just wanted to blog about something cool they found.

igleria 21 hours ago

spiderice 20 hours ago

Perhaps you should get your comments peer reviewed then? Because between you and the author, only one of you made a fool of themselves, and I quite enjoyed the article.

igleria 20 hours ago

deadbabe 21 hours ago

The moral of the story is that if you thought you found something that was undiscovered: no you didn’t.

BUT, if AI thinks it’s undiscovered then its discovery might be poorly documented, so if you were to go to the site by yourself you might be able to explore it on your own and raid tombs, etc, and no one will notice.

shermantanktop 21 hours ago

Tomb Raider is a video game.

In real life, that’s actually just vandalism of an archeological site for personal gain.

OroPla 14 hours ago

ahknight 21 hours ago

m0llusk a day ago

This author has chosen to make their posts visible only to people who are signed in.

wosk a day ago

The post says:

> This story is going wild on X and elsewhere. The site was already published by Dr. Francisco Estrada-Belli of Tulane University ages ago. This is why we have peer review. Mexican gov didn't have it in their database, but that doesn't mean it is unknown/unmapped. https://pietromiotti.com/latest/maya-site/

Basically: already known, not in the Mexican Gov database, but in published literature... and open-access.

Link to the previous publication: https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jasrep.2025.105288 (Journal of Archaeological Science: Reports 66 (2025) 105288)

orbis-tertius a day ago

sebzim4500 a day ago

newsicanuse a day ago

calvinmorrison 21 hours ago

Care to share the source without a paywall?

"This author has chosen to make their posts visible only to people who are signed in."

embedding-shape a day ago

Now I'm very interested in seeing the transcript/session from what the agent actually did.

We already know since before that agents takes all sorts of possible shortcuts to find the answer they think the user was looking for. It doesn't seem impossible to me that the user asked something that made the agent feel OK with highlighting something that wasn't logged in the Mexican database as a novel discovery, even if it wasn't.

But again, transcripts/session logs would make it extremely clear exactly what has happened, and I'd take the author not publishing those as trying to hide something about how the agent actually approached this.

letmevoteplease a day ago

"I'd take the author not publishing those as trying to hide something about how the agent actually approached this."

That is an irrationally cynical take. Everything described in the post is clearly within the abilities of a frontier LLM. The previous discovery is obscure enough that the Bluesky author is not citing any actual publication but instead encouraging people to reach out to a scientist and receiving images through private communication. The reasonable interpretation is that the model stumbled upon a previous discovery in the manner described, and the author/LLM failed to find the previous discovery because it is not any published database. The author is not running a scam for some unclear benefit that would be immediately revealed when he published it.

embedding-shape 21 hours ago

logicallee a day ago

[I withdraw this comment.]

StrLght a day ago

I don't follow, what exactly are you saying? Are you claiming that a scientific article (shared in a sub-thread alongside yours) is fake?

post-it a day ago

That's a pretty extraordinary claim.

hilariously a day ago

You need a shave, here, use Occam's razor.

undefined a day ago

ftchd 20 hours ago

TSiege a day ago

This story is very cool, and it’s exciting to see how much progress AI will bring to every field. One thing to temper everyone from wanting to lidar the whole world is human capacity. Finding discoveries like this is essentially as hard as doing the lidar mapping. Now the issue will be getting archaeologist there in time before someone else does.

The best way to protect a site is to leave it alone. If we start finding dozens or hundreds of sites it will be more than what archaeologists can excavate and protest. Treasure hunters and looters don’t care about stratigraphy and the processes involved for doing research. Maybe the cat is out of the bag on this one, but good for thought.

Edit: I’m not saying we shouldn’t have people use AI to do this or that no bad actor will. This comment is in response to the sentiment I am seeing in the comments that we should lidar the whole world and have AI find any anomalous structures it can. There is no way for archeologists to excavate and protect all those places in that scenario

timdiggerm a day ago

Given that treasure hunters and looters can also use the process outlined in this blog post, leaving it alone seems like a guarantee that it will be explored by looters first.

AdamN a day ago

That's a story that's been going on for literal centuries.

amelius a day ago

unrented7977 18 hours ago

4gotunameagain 2 hours ago

TSiege a day ago

This is in response to people in the comments saying we should do lidar of the entire world and have AI find whatever it can.

Taek a day ago

patcon a day ago

I would humbly suggest that perhaps the most consequential looters might be more like script kiddies than bond villains. Just vicinity and convenience

elil17 4 hours ago

IDK, this jungle terrain is very difficult to navigate

freecodeio 19 hours ago

would be funny if they went there and it was already looted

RunSet a day ago

Using slop engines to loot ancient ruins is an apt metaphor for what slop engines have already done to humanity's written corpus.

For their next trick, perhaps billionaires can exhume our dearly departed and see whether they have any gold teeth or baubles worth scavenging.

lp92 a day ago

Archeologists have been using Lidar equipped RC aircraft for quite some time now. With the way things are going it won't be too difficult to have a small swarm of UAVs doing the mapping soon.

kevsamuel a day ago

Lidar google map layer is going to be a thing.

TSiege a day ago

This is in response to people in the comments saying we should do lidar of the entire world and have AI find whatever it can.

chrisweekly a day ago

"archaeologists can excavate and protest"

protest (argue against) -> protect (defend against harm)

mercer a day ago

the knowledge of these locations from the air should have some value in itself, no?

TSiege a day ago

It isn’t about having value or not. Some people in the comments are talking about using lidar on the whole world and seeing what agents find. Thats a great way to give looters all over the world the heads up so they can rush over and steal whatever they can. Any archeological site has valuable information on what a slice of humanity’s world used to be. Giving looters a head start means destroying that information often permanently.

A helpful example might be Heinrich Schliemann, a businessman who fancied himself an archaeologist and destroyed much of Troy’s history by digging it up as fast as he could. He was so focused on finding treasure to prove to world he was a great archaeologist he irreparably damaged the real layers that were Troy.

From his wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Schliemann?wprov=sfti...

> His excavations were condemned by later archaeologists as having destroyed the main layers of the real Troy. Kenneth W. Harl, in the Teaching Company's Great Ancient Civilizations of Asia Minor lecture series, sarcastically claimed that Schliemann's excavations were carried out with such rough methods that he did to Troy what the Greeks could not do in their times, destroying and levelling down the entire city walls to the ground.

desterothx a day ago

jcattle a day ago

Well isn't it handy that recording lidar is really expensive, so we luckily won't be having large scale public access to data very soon

TacticalCoder a day ago

> The best way to protect a site is to leave it alone. If we start finding dozens or hundreds of sites it will be more than what archaeologists can excavate and protest.

Ain't the site itself the most important thing? As opposed to items: looters won't steal the site?

AlotOfReading a day ago

Looters will absolutely destroy a site to find valuables that may or may not even be there. Ai-khanoum is a classic example, with the vast majority of the site having been filled with pits on the off chance there were valuables. Nowadays they use bulldozers and excavators to loot at an industrial scale. It's pretty difficult to do archaeology on a pile of sifted dirt.

hanoz 21 hours ago

I created the first online lidar map of the UK (well, England and Wales), as announced here many years ago! (now at https://lidarmap.uk) and delightfully there have been dozens of finds of previously unknown sites of archaeological significance found using it that I'm aware of. Roman villas, forts, henges, all sorts of earthworks. New discoveries are being reported using this and similar tools almost weekly, on forums like https://www.reddit.com/r/LiDARdiscoveryUK/. Britain really is littered with this stuff.

Although it does feel the finds are getting increasingly hard to spot, every now and then you get a how did everyone miss that moment. Perhaps not surprisingly, most of the remaining impressive finds tend to be in woodland, using the Digital Terrain Model data which can peer beneath the forest canopy, like this Mexican one today, or are within newly released coverage which is promptly pounced on by armchair archeologists.

Not sure what my point is here except... to me this story still feels like a function of the amazing recent progress in lidar coverage and data availability (not to mention the incredible technology behind it), rather than an AI one, although I don't doubt that pointing a capable model and a healthy token budget in this direction might well be able to sweep up a few of the remaining discoveries.

throwaway219450 8 hours ago

The DEFRA attribution in the page seems to be broken btw. I was surprised this even exists publicly. The UK is terrible at providing open access imagery. I get the impression the good stuff is being sat on by the Ordnance Survey like a dragon guarding its hoard.

https://www.data.gov.uk/dataset/f0db0249-f17b-4036-9e65-3091...

chirau a day ago

Interesting. I don't want to sound like a hater or anything, but I will personally wait for an expert archaeologist's verification on this. I have dealt with agents making up stuff that sounds fantastic and ground-breaking but completely falters on further review. And I doubt the folks you contacted have the audacity to question a Google engineer and his 48 agents. Even if he is not archaelogist. Do you think it would have gone the same way if it was another random person who had done the exact same thing and reached out to them? The one day feedback part also has me questioning what they actually did.

Anyway, I can hear myself beginning to sound like a hater now, so I will stop here. I hope it turns out to be right, and in that case, congrats on your wonderful discovery.

eks391 a day ago

I'm sceptical too. Perhaps he verified, but from his blogpost, he doesn't imply that he cross checked anything and instead trusted all agentic output. For example, after getting the patch of ladar with the site, did he manually check NASA's resources to make sure there was no hallucination there? Maybe his agents are really good, but submitting this to INAH after only chatting with the agents is really bold.

Again, maybe he did cross verify things and just left that out of the storytelling, and congrats because this is really cool.

TSiege a day ago

Yeah I agree. There’s a lot of assumptions coming out about what the structures are and what it looks like that give me pause. Very cool to have found this site though. The actual archeology involved though will be slow as it’s a science done layer by layer. It will be interesting to see if any predictions made by the AI match up to the facts.

Rick76 a day ago

I’m the same for a couple of reasons. First I want to say it is refreshing that AI is being used for discovery instead of an AI arms race, or something else that just feels dystopian. I understand this is happening but it’s rarely what is shown.

1. They said there is no site there, does that mean no one knew it was there?

If this is official lidar data, I find it hard to believe that this is a true discovery, I assume that it just can’t be claimed as a discovery until someone goes there which can be expensive and requires government oversight.

No universities have created an application to detect irregularities in this dataset, that was possible with ML years ago.

2. Personally I want people to Start sharing how much it cost the agent to do a task, because it feels like cost is becoming the bottleneck. Yes it’s awesome it did X but does that mean this can be utilized by people, businesses, or just governments and big tech.

Also just because we’re skeptical doesn’t make us haters. Being a hater is speaking in bad faith.

But anyone can tell me if I’m wrong on this

Aboutplants a day ago

He asked authorities, as stated in the article

“INAH replied: they checked their records and found no registered archaeological site at that location. To be clear, it's not official yet. But as far as anyone can tell, nobody had put this one on a map before.“

Am I missing something to your post?

ideashower a day ago

There are other authorities! Such as researchers, academics etc.

See: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50453616

edh649 a day ago

INAH said there's nothing registered there, nothing more than that. The results look fairly convincing but neither the OP, me and (I presume) you nor the commentor have archaeology experience. Perhaps there are other explanations for ground structures like this we just don't know till an expert visits the site and confirms that yes, it is a previously unmapped Mayan pyramid.

shawabawa3 a day ago

One potential reason there's no registered archaeological site at that location is that there _is_ no archaeological site at that location.

For example, the agents could have displaced a known archeological site, or hallucinated or otherwise created one where none exists

runarberg 19 hours ago

Turns out that an expert archeologist Dr. Francisco Estrada-Belli of Tulane University already found it. You are right to be skeptical and maybe being a hater is in fact not a bad thing (I know I am).

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50453616

traches a day ago

I'm certainly not one to defend AI bros, this guy's writing is insufferable (and reads like slop to me), but did you read TFA? The LIDAR image (based on measured data, not AI) clearly shows human-made structures, and the Mexican government's response said that it's not registered. The chatbots just found it. Unless he's completely lying about the whole thing, this seems genuine. Now all the bits about what sort of site it probably was and the slopified image of what it might have looked like are garbage, but the find itself doesn't look to be.

piltdownman a day ago

TBH the Academic reaction to this could likely be to gatekeep it into oblivion over bad faith or ideological reasons given the perceived hostile takeover of their domain by 'amateurs'.

We saw this with the Dead Sea Scrolls where exclusive control was given to a select group of academics who monopolized the research to the point of refusing to release photographs or transcripts for nearly 40 years. The Huntington Library eventually had to force their hand by releasing their microfiche copies.

Again, we saw this with both the Ochtendung Skull Fraud and the Piltdown Man fraud - systematically falsifying results for clout is an exclusively human pre-occupation.

More to the point, in May 2025 YouTuber MrBeast was allowed to film inside the off-limits areas of Mayan Temples; something banned for both locals and normal tourists.

Academics posit that strict peer review is necessary so as not to allow the hoarding and gatekeeping of knowledge. However in matters of verification, faslification, and justification, they are derelict in their duty to the other half of that contract. The field only has itself to blame if other fields start organically superseding their usefulness and eroding their domain exclusivity by proxy of poor governance and ways of working.

woodpanel 21 hours ago

It does seem amazing how mountains of evidence have to be assembled to disprove academic narratives the whole field defended for decades, even if reports from the time gave us proof hundreds of years ago. Things like the massive human sacrifices that were made (usually by colonized tribes, not the ruling Aztecs) on a systematic scale are basically an anti-thesis to the current national narrative of the state of Mexico itself.

phatfish a day ago

Someone has an axe to grind.

piltdownman a day ago

miotts 20 hours ago

author here. Update: the site had already been discovered. It appears in a 2025 paper by Estrada-Belli, Canuto, Šprajc & Fernandez-Diaz (page 14) https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jasrep.2025.105288. The agents missed it, I missed it, and it wasn't in INAH's register yet (National Institute of Anthropology and History). The rest of the story still holds, and there's still a lot left to discover with vibe-archeology. I hope this brought some extra excitement to archaeology.

gaudystead 16 hours ago

I appreciate you following up and admitting not being aware of the site having been previously found. It's great work, regardless, and shows promising results for future archeological discoveries. If anything, the site having been previously found encourages greater confidence that future findings aren't hallucinated.

puglr 13 hours ago

> The agents missed it while going through the literature

Is this verifiable? I wonder given the recent publications regarding intentional deception that is ultimately opaque to end users.

armanj 20 hours ago

it's definitely exciting enough. thanks for sharing.

civvv a day ago

Amazing, the perfect application of AI Agents. Find patterns/answers in massive amounts of data. It is becoming more clear everyday that this is the primary driver behind an AI's "intelligence". Finding the solution to mathematical problems that have decades of documented attempts by mathematicians, creating software based on exisitng code and now, discovering Maya pyramids within enourmous amounts of lidar-data.

The final barrier for super intelligence, or perhaps even just "human intelligence": can it materialize "new fields/ideas" without large datasets of human made and curated existing attempts?

sedictious a day ago

I am curious how this things perform compared to a "classical" neural networks. Tasks like image classification, feature extraction has been studied extensively and there were a lot of very cool applications before (medicine included). The biggest obstacle was always data but even that could have been partly automated with some semi-supervised learning schemes. Of course the Bitter Lesson applies here, given a big enough model, it can outperform specialised ones, but at this point it's not clear 1) By how much? 2) If this is even true in the first place or if we have the means to train much leaner networks

It is becoming a boring homogenous world where we are trading deep expertise with being able to query the magic box

civvv a day ago

I would assume, without actually having checked, that traditional neural networks have already been extensively run on this datasets. Seems like the "standard" thing to do anyways.

My guess is that you can find 99% of Maya pyramids in a Lidar set in a fairly short time with a traditional neural network, but you might find the last few using a network of AI agents, because they are capable of "creative" problem solving and using different methods/parameters/tools over several iterations.

dist-epoch a day ago

The problem with specialized models is that they don't have "common sense".

You train a cat-classifier, and they will fail for a plush cat. Or maybe fail the other way, but not realizing it should also report a plush cat.

LLMs are much more robust, "find only the real cats in this picture" or "find all cats, including artificial/drawings/..."

And yes, you can add more training data to your classifier, but it's a never ending battle.

sedictious 21 hours ago

throwaway384034 a day ago

There is no "final barrier", the goalpost will continue to change until you are not aware of what is going on anymore. This is already becoming true as the recently produced math research is not fully understood, CoT moves further away from looking like human reasoning and datasets become generated rather than collected from existing human data.

desterothx a day ago

? CoT did not look like actual human reasoning from day one. It's just a context expansion mechanism, the purpose isn't actually to mimic human style reasoning, nor was it ever doing so. In the recent openAI article where they showed excerpts from the CoT, it looks like reasoning has moved even further from what i would call a human like flow of thought

civvv a day ago

Certainly, but at that point it becomes a philosophical question, rather than an empirical one.

Can we even measure an intelligence greater than our own? And at that point -- what is the point exactly? Why make an intelligence that we don't even know is intelligent? If its output is indiscernible to the human mind, what good does it do us?

The only "barrier" I can see that is valuable and that might be measureable to humans is this underlying mechanic of being able to create new ideas/concepts from little to no existing human generated training data. Otherwise, and as I see it right now, these machines will not become sentient, or go rouge, or be able to cure all future disease or solve all of physics, becasue they are entirely reliant on human made trainingsets.

Historically, for humans, this can not be the case, otherwise we would see no progress. Someone has to have a thought for the first time. Perhaps the solution to this for AI agents is some inherent randomness, and massive amounts of brute force compute. Who knows?

mitxela a day ago

mercer a day ago

Now I'm curious if anyone has or might try to create an LLM that lacks all knowledge of the post-einstein/newton/plato world and see if it can figure things out. I imagine lack of training data would be a problem, but maybe it could be a way to reverse-engineer an effective prompt that can give us insight in the platos of our world?

StilesCrisis a day ago

Wouldn't it need a way to run physical experiments?

criddell a day ago

leereeves a day ago

> I imagine lack of training data would be a problem

I imagine that's an understatement. Using only the written works available from before Einstein (let alone Newton or Plato), you'd probably need a whole new technology that could train itself without any training data other than observation of the world.

dist-epoch a day ago

camillomiller a day ago

Too bad the pyramid was already mapped, just got lost in Mexican archives and wasn't accounted for. There's already literature on it.

mitxela a day ago

Couldn't it be plain old AI, not an agent?

danesparza a day ago

"This is by far the best time ever to be alive."

I appreciate the enthusiasm. I'm not sure I agree. Especially since this was a SWE and not an archeologist / anthropologist announcing this (especially if the goal is to understand and preserve history -- not get headlines for AI).

mvcosta91 a day ago

Life is surrounded by nuances. The COVID pandemic was the best time to be alive if you were a tech worker and your family was safe and healthy. Now COVID is over, so does most of the value of our intellectual work.

toddmorey 21 hours ago

I was a tech worker; my family emerged safe and healthy. COVID completely sucked. So much death, uncertainty, anxiety, and mistrust. I think we're all still trying to figure out the impact COVID had on our health, society, and culture.

mvcosta91 20 hours ago

swed420 a day ago

> Now COVID is over

Ask anybody with newly acquired Long COVID / PASC if COVID is over.

https://www.thegauntlet.news/p/how-the-press-manufactured-co...

mvcosta91 a day ago

danesparza a day ago

"Life is surrounded by nuances".

Sure. I agree. But the statement I was responding to was not nuanced.

mvcosta91 a day ago

jryan49 a day ago

That line also made me do a double-take. No doubt this is cool and all, but that's a strange blanket take away.

stevage 16 hours ago

I completely agree. My dominating feeling was nausea. At the waste of electricity spent on this. At the callous devaluing of actual expertise. At potentially ruining the opportunity for a much more deserving person to make such a discovery.

It's like an arrogant teenage boy showing up to an Easter egg hunt and grabbing all the chocolate faster than the little kids and demanding everyone tell him to great he is.

throwawaybackag a day ago

If you're a Google SWE with 7 figure comp, doing experiments with agent swarms you don't need to pay for, with healthy case of Dunning-Kruger... then maybe it is.

suncemoje 20 hours ago

Oh yes, as he also concluded: "You can just do things." aka delegate random tasks to Agents that may even make it to the HN front page!

Haunt1000 a day ago

But everyone's been fired and are out of jobs -- how is this the best time to be alive?

octocop a day ago

This post turned out to be a perfect example of the blind faith in LLM agents. Their outputs are not to be trusted and must be rigorously checked.

retsibsi 21 hours ago

I don't see how the post displays blind faith. The author contacted the relevant authority in Mexico to ask if they already had a record of this village, and even after they said that they didn't, he was careful to hedge and not to claim that this was definitely an original discovery. He flagged the speculative part of the post as speculation, and as far as I can tell, the parts he was confident about have not been disputed.

rplnt a day ago

Doesn't matter, the title is out there, news outlets will omit this little detail. Even here the post is gaining in popularity even after the top comment has questioned its validity.

emp17344 a day ago

The AI craze is quite possibly the most annoying hype cycle I’ve ever witnessed.

rerdavies 21 hours ago

And what exactly would that rigorous check be?

You pull up the lidar scan and see that there actually IS what clearly appears to be a human-made structure.

And he did. And there is. And then he rigorously contacted government authorities and verified that it is not a registered site.

There are other problems at play. But this is not one of them.

asdff 17 hours ago

Then in this thread author said the site has already been published about. So he vibe verified it because further verification proved him wrong in the end.

igleria a day ago

it feeds into the typical egotistical nerd fallacy of "im smart in X, that translates to be smart at almost everything else with lower effort".

I myself have to keep my stinking paws from some projects at work due to realizing that AI was making me believe I could shit taller than my ass.

It's like revenge of the nerds, but this time the other nerds outside the AI craze are the target instead of the typical bully.

strix_varius 21 hours ago

Given that we can all see the mapped pyramid in the previously published paper https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352409X2..., the title of this seems incorrect ("finds unmapped Maya pyramid").

zingerlio a day ago

What kind of harness setup that would allow me to fire off a prompt, go to sleep, and wake up to see such a comprehensive and intricate infra setup (48 agents, orchestrated, image storage, continuous execution), and just say “damn”? I paid my for peasant $20 bucks a month plan and works in the CLI (Codex), I never know how to scale work on number of agents, non-interrupted workflow, or multiple models (he mentioned he consulted multiple models, I assume not just copy pasting questions in different chats). Is there a harness that I’m missing out on?

hermannj314 21 hours ago

I highly recommend pi.dev for doing anything creative with agents and harnesses. It separates the harness from the model, so you need to BYOM keys and subscriptions.

You can build your own harness quite easily or use a harness something like pi.dev which offers a lot of flexibility in customization in terms of tools, models ised, resume sessions at a prior point in time, etc.

I have used pi.dev to easily start from a known context and goal and use it to compare the cost effectiveness, token isage, etc. of different models to reach the goal state.

I am sure there are many ways to do this successfully.

toephu2 17 hours ago

It's not clear whether the author used Google's resources or his own personal account to run the queries.

shawabawa3 21 hours ago

Type into claude code:

"Scan through publically accessible LIDAR data on <region of mexican jungle>, search for potential Mayan ruins and cross reference with published data to rule out existing finds

Work autonomously until the entire area is searched, prepare me a report detailing potential discoveries"

should more or less do the trick

agnosticmantis a day ago

The title reads as if the 48 agents took 72 hours to find this. The text doesn't exactly say that:

> "It took less than 72 hours to go from a random thought while traveling to an official reply from the Mexican government."

> "That night, I asked the agents to analyze it and went to bed." ... "I woke up and checked the agents' reports. 'DAMN!'"

> "Me: OK, please do the report. And I went to bed."

(The actual agents-on-the-job time and compute seems much less than 48 agents * 72hours from the report.)

pu_pe a day ago

I think we are about to see a whole new age of "citizen scientists", enabled by AI. This particular example was solved fast with a lot of compute, but it seems that this approach would have been possible with less equipment too.

The bottleneck will be data. Every possible signal out of publicly available datasets will be squeezed fast.

JDups 14 hours ago

I'm seeing people in some historical facebook groups already doing AI-powered "citizen history" that's complete bunk. And of course they fight back against anyone telling them it's all fabrication.

And not that this wasn't actually a new discovery like the engineer believed. Look at the other comments, it's discovery had been published last year.

asdff 17 hours ago

The people who have the training to be good citizen scientists enabled by AI are already working in technical fields, probably as scientists in formal name or not.

Your neighbor on the other hand has good odds that they read to a 6th grade level or worse, and believes the president at his word because he's signaled he also hates minorities.

As the famous quote goes, "You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land— the common clay of the new West. You know... morons."

Oarch a day ago

I think especially the renegade science YouTubers who are purely hacking away for fun and content.

dyauspitr a day ago

> The bottleneck will be data. Every possible signal out of publicly available datasets will be squeezed fast.

Exactly. The only blocker to us pulling this off ourselves is access to the LIDAR data.

pingou a day ago

Wasn't it extremely expensive to analyse so many images?

Edit: I asked gemini and it's only 834 1200x1200 images for 1,200 km2 at standard lidar resolution.

Can that be used to detect illegal mining operations in South America?

piltdownman a day ago

It can, but then it runs into the Google Maps issue - everything altruistic at the expense of some bad actor becomes a Security, Military or Legal concern - and the apathy issue.

This is partly why George Clooney abandoned his Project Sentinel - documenting atrocities from space means nothing if you cannot action on the people and financial networks enabling them.

mschuster91 a day ago

> This is partly why George Clooney abandoned his Project Sentinel - documenting atrocities from space means nothing if you cannot action on the people and financial networks enabling them.

At the very least you can try to hold the bad actors accountable even if it's years if not decades afterwards, if you have documentation. Germany for example had deathcamp criminal cases being prosecuted as late as 2022 [1].

It will get really interesting what happens in the US once the Trump administration is gone - even if the expected Trump pardon against everyone involved gets reversed somehow, I suspect that a lot of material regarding ICE or the military strikes against "drug smugglers" will simply have been shredded or never been created in the first place...

[1] https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/die-letzten-ns-prozesse-in-de...

toephu2 17 hours ago

It's not clear whether the author used personal tokens or Google's token allowance (given to each worker) to perform this analysis.

zkmon 20 hours ago

Philosophically speaking, the human quest for discovering things from past, from far away, from depths of oceans, from the depths of atoms and microcosms - has no bounds and targets. That means it will be never be completed. There will always be an unsung, unknown warrior who fought for his people, or some higher-level of intelligence and knowledge to be achieved. The insatiable quest for such awareness, knowledge and discoveries imbalance the priorities of the human progress. We are doing this at the cost of climate change, natural resources and human detachment from the nature.

pelzatessa 21 hours ago

> Me: OK, how do I contact INAH? How does the reporting process work?

> Agent: …instructions for the report… + email addresses

> Me: OK, please do the report.

I don't want to sound offtopic nitpicky, because the content of the article is quite cool, but I just hope the author didn't just straight up generate the report with AI and sent it right to the email address. If I were in this situation, I'd most certainly write myself something along the lines of "Hey, I'm not anyone professional but just wanted to inquire about these coordinates because it seems that this site has not been yet catalogued and it's likely to contain something interesting based on my research. Please take a look.". Or better yet, send it to some actual archelogist who would already be versed in these kind of communications, and let him handle it professionally.

At this moment probably everyone has had to deal with sudden influx of ai-generated emails, I hear about it all the time from my friends who work in customer service and such. Much has already been said on the internet about this kind of conduct, but I just think that using an AI agent to pretend you are familiar with the topic should be discouraged. Just be honest and write your own words, if the recipient needs some professional expertise from AI, they can just paste your message into their own model.

Catloafdev 21 hours ago

Reading 1 more sentence down answers your question.

frevib 21 hours ago

> This is by far the best time ever to be alive.

Please just stop the hype now.

Peaches4Rent 11 hours ago

Agreed. It's so difficult for most people to be alive these days compared to our parents

nwilkens 14 hours ago

I spent about an hour today exploring NASA datasets with Claude, mostly out of curiosity, inspired by this post.

It identified what appeared to be a previously unknown asteroid pair: 2018 NC15 and 2026 LD1.

Turns out the pair had already been discovered earlier this year, but that almost made the experience more interesting.

I'm a software engineer, not an astronomer. Being able to explore an entirely different field and independently arrive at an existing discovery was pretty remarkable.

Here's the writeup: https://wilkens.io/research/nea-pair-2018-nc15-2026-ld1/

aarjaneiro 16 hours ago

With the development that this was already discovered prior, this now feels a lot like the issue where an LLM "finds" a new bug only for it to turn out that it had been discussed and disregarded years earlier.

To me, the scary thing is that an LLM typically does a good job of convincing it's handler (or others) that its (re)discovery is of significance. Whether it's of undue significance or not determines if this new wave LLM research is just creating more work for us humans, be they maintainers of projects or archeologists.

aarjaneiro 6 hours ago

Imo should update title to that which the article currently uses:

"My AI Agents (Re)discovered a Maya Site in 72 Hours"

reedf1 a day ago

Seriously though, why 48 AI Agents? I'm curious, presumably one agent could parallelize its analysis so its not raw parallelism? Do the agents share work? This kind of agent scale is outside of my budget, I would love to know the details.

shawabawa3 a day ago

Well they had to look at lidar images from huge parts of Mexico. Seeing as 48 agents did it in 72 hours, presumably 1 agent would do it in 144 days.

Simple to enough to ask "how long would it take", see 144 days and reply "do it in 3 days" and the agent will happily spin up enough instances to cover it

edit: "presumably one agent could parallelize its analysis"

No, they said they didn't analyse with tool use it was literally agents "looking" at the images via multimodal input

reedf1 a day ago

Even if it was a confirmed agent-orchestrator pattern, it would still be interesting to know the details.

blitzar a day ago

1 Ai agent to search the Lidar; 47 to screw in the lightbulb

sporkland 18 hours ago

One thing I haven't seen research on with these agent swarms is if an equivalent amount of compute dedicated to a single agent (sequential vs parallel longer wall clock time) would lead to similar outcomes or if something around agents working in parallel with model temperatures how they are leads to more exhaustive searching and less path dependence.

sailfast 21 hours ago

You CAN just do things, but one should also temper the excitement a bit. Agents are amazing but also the last 10% is still really difficult to get right and requires subject matter expertise for most things.

As an aside: anyone with access to all those tokens for funsies can do this. Folks without that access cannot just do things. The have / have-not of tokens will be interesting to see over time.

plaidfuji 21 hours ago

Ha, yeah I had the same thought. People with money to burn have always been able to “just do things”. The author also considered “hiring a survey team” - ultimately concluding it was too expensive - but the fact that that thought even entered their mind indicates a certain level of expendable income.

joshmarlow 14 hours ago

My main question - how were those different agents coordinating and sharing data? Did you have a unified interface or did you just delegate different parts of the task to different AIs via their chat interfaces?

fefaOd a day ago

Oh, this is really cool. Things like this inspire me, and I believe we can figure this out using AI—without ending up with a "Skynet" scenario.

croniev 21 hours ago

What do we gain from mapping out everything? Why is the best time to be alive one where such a nightmare becomes feasible? For anyone wondering what could possibly be bad about uncovering the entire world, turning everything into numbers and computational tasks, look at "Origins of Totalitarianism" for a start.

car 17 hours ago

LIDAR data from Europe has been used to identify Celtic agricultural structures (fields) by a retired museum director. He’s also found some Roman age artifacts.

https://celtic-fields.com

userbinator 9 hours ago

The title made me think AI crawlers discovered an old website that Autodesk forgot about.

windowshopping a day ago

How much does this cost though? Who can afford 48 agents working overnight? I pay $100 a month to Claude to have one agent...

kspacewalk2 18 hours ago

You can pinpoint the location using Claude. There are several large ranches nearby, a road is ~250m from this site, though it is up a rather steep hill. Still, it would be quite mind-boggling if the site isn't known to the locals.

mosfets 17 hours ago

Google SWE is key! The fact that Google's employee can do so much creative things on the side says something about the company. I used to work there and it's definitely one thing I missed the most!

toephu2 17 hours ago

We don't know whether they used their personal tokens or work's token allowance

DrBazza a day ago

I'd very much like to see this done in the UK.

Also agents analyzing drought pictures, where many ancient UK structures seem to appear would be an easy win. I've never checked whether there's a comprehensive drought picture map of the UK.

TSiege a day ago

bobosola a day ago

The National Library of Scotland has LIDAR imagery for all of the UK. Go to https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/ then pick a LIDAR layer as the background. This motivated me to make my own high-res LIDAR images on my hobby site (https://solentmaps.uk/) of my home area using QGIS with free government data in order to uncover interesting things. It has old OS maps of the UK (1880s to date) with a LIDAR layer for my local area (south Hampshire).

DrBazza a day ago

I'm far less interested in LIDAR as it relies on height change. The drought pictures are a better source of new discovery in the UK as we tend to bury buildings or plough over them (see my other comment below).

Those pictures would be very appropriate for AI bots to look at and make discoveries.

philipwhiuk a day ago

The UK landmass is really quite small compared to central America. I'd be surprised if there are many substantial structures left - geophys has been around a long time.

DrBazza a day ago

Well, that's why I explicitly mentioned the drought pictures - LIDAR uncovers structures due to change in the terrain height once vegetation is 'removed', whereas drought pictures are grasses growing poorly on top of buried structures or their foundations. That's a very UK/European thing where a lot of the history has been covered up or ploughed over.

Just near me, a Roman road about 5km long was discovered last year by exactly this method. That's a non-trivial discovery. There was also a large Roman villa complex discovered the same way.

For LIDAR and structures, you're likely correct - there's vanishingly obvious structures left to discover that way.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-52911797

"Roman forts, roads, military camps and villas have been identified by a new analysis of aerial photographs taken in the 2018 heatwave across Wales.

Scorched crop marks uncovered about 200 ancient sites during the drought.

Experts say the Roman finds are key pieces in the jigsaw to understand how Wales was conquered and dominated 2,000 years ago.

Researcher Toby Driver said the discoveries "turn everything we know about the Romans on its head"."

philipwhiuk 19 hours ago

interestica 19 hours ago

If Elon relented and added Lidar, it's probably because of the potential of a huge roving lidar-mapping network of Tesla cars with starlink as the supporting network.

escapecharacter a day ago

If these type of subtle finds interest you, this account is great: https://x.com/MoundLore

DavCreator a day ago

BrenBarn 3 hours ago

> This is by far the best time ever to be alive.

It's the best time for you to be alive, and for certain other people with certain resources and access to certain technologies. And for the same reasons, it is a very bad time to be alive for a vastly greater number of other people.

y04nn a day ago

Cool story but:

> They turned the lidar strips (about 1,200 km² of jungle) into images, and 48 agents went through them one by one like very patient archaeologists, looking for pyramids, platforms, and plazas while filtering out natural hills, sinkholes, and roads. There was no special model or classifier involved: the agents literally looked at the pictures, following a precise guide.

Would it be better to ask a single LLM to create a processing pipeline to inject raw LIDAR data, create a heightmap and use an image classifier to identify unnatural shapes that standout and create a ranking score with a higher value where multiple shapes appears close to each other. At least you get something reusable and probably multiple order of magnitude faster.

tantalor a day ago

For all we know, that's exactly what the agent did.

rerdavies 21 hours ago

And who knows, perhaps a final filter to select "unnatural shapes that look like pyramids, platforms and plazas". :-) It really doesn't seem hard to believe that any of this is outside the capabilities of current gen LLMs. Including generating a plan to run multiple agents concurrently.

koolba a day ago

This is neat! Might be risky depending on the region if you end up discovering a covert drug cartel production facility.

Kuyawa a day ago

"At this point, we should probably lidar the whole planet and let the agents discover the rest"

Yes please

piltdownman a day ago

Yes, because FiveEyes GEOINT will absolutely let that happen.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realpolitik

raynhardt a day ago

well done! Actual good use of AI.

neomantra a day ago

That is amazing! Great discovery and write up and motivation. Earlier in the week I got an FB impression of a LIDAR for Fort Stamford (CT), superimposed with the satelite footage and pondered what other hidden constructs might be lurking around here. And all you got to set up the loop asking for it...

suncemoje 20 hours ago

Discovering a village in Minecraft >>>>>>>

edu_do_cerrado 18 hours ago

kinda curious on how these agents worked, was it something like a cursor session on cloud operating on downloaded data?

dotemacs a day ago

This is probably one of the coolest AI related news

59percentmore a day ago

Do West/Central Africa next?

tgtweak 19 hours ago

As someone who's been gaslit by ChatGPT and Claude on more than one occasion on something being novel that simply didn't even do a google search to see that it was in fact previously patented... this is dangerous and seems to be happening far more often even as models are getting better at "grounding".

d--b 15 hours ago

You don’t really need agents to do that. Just open up the lidar map qnd scan with your own eyes. human structure really do stand out very clearly, even at fairly low zoom.

I did it around my house and found a site I thought was interesting and later discovered it was already referenced as a former roman fort.

freddealmeida a day ago

Saw this on X. Pretty cool. Does he get to name it?

ChrisArchitect 20 hours ago

Title update (of submission and blog post)?

My AI Agents (re)Discovered an Unmapped Maya Site

hamidmohaqeq 21 hours ago

Nice!

TheRealPomax a day ago

The title is "My AI Agents Found an Unmapped Maya Site"

m0llusk a day ago

People have been finding hidden constructions for a while. The large urban conurbations such as around Ecuador are perhaps the most impressive (https://apnews.com/article/amazon-lost-cities-ecuador-archae...). While Archeologists have been driving the process almost anyone who spends time with recent LIDAR data finds something much as how publicly available satellite data has uncovered geological oddities. This is not a big advance. Getting an official report completed and creating a compelling image of what the site might have looked like is impressive, but also consistent with what ordinary untrained people have been accomplishing.

elmer2 a day ago

This and spotting cancers are some of the best uses of AI.

glimshe a day ago

Why is "Google SWE" relevant here? Shouldn't the evidence speak for itself? Will the AI work better because it was "pointed" by a Google SWE?

Also, I think we're long past the days when "Google SWE" carried special weight vs the rest of the industry.

uptrails a day ago

> Why is "Google SWE" relevant here?

Because it did not work the first two times this was submitted without mentioning "Google SWE": https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=pietromiotti.com

So I guess our revealed preference is that the outputs of AI prompts are objectively more interesting if the prompting is done by Google SWEs.

StilesCrisis a day ago

I think it matters because "I used 48 agents running for 72 hours" either means you invested $50,000 of your own money, or you work for a company that gives you unlimited tokens.

lukan a day ago

"Will the AI work better because it was "pointed" by a Google SWE?"

Usually yes? (vs pointed by a random vibe coder)

Also the more interesting bit to me here is, that you do not find the reference on the page at all, that the person works for google at all (I only found it mentioned in his X account). With the headline I initially thought this was a official google research project, but the blog reads like a personal project.

glimshe a day ago

Replace "Google SWE" by "Competent Engineer" in the title and you'll see how silly it sounds to include this kind of information.

shawabawa3 a day ago

lukan a day ago

andsoitis a day ago

I know what you're saying. At the same time, this is someone using the technical skills in wielding a technology to make, unverified sure, discovery in a wholly different field, but in which they are presumably interested.

So for me one key takeaway is how AI could possibly open up more interdisciplinary work in our heavily siloed world.

alwa 19 hours ago

There’s this error that SWEs sometimes make where they imagine that geosensing or research datasets are just… a natural phenomenon in the world, lying around like ore studded with diamonds (or… however mining works). If a layperson (or lay-agent) can gawk at the thing and see the obvious, that’s not “being an archaeologist,” that’s “somebody who’s an archaeologist figured out the right way to conduct the survey, and did so, so as to make what they’re looking for obvious in the first place.”

I take something much darker from this story: expect the raw corpuses of data to start being locked away. It was fine to let the LIDAR surveys flop around in public when only qualified research groups really knew what to do with it. You could let people rummage and report, and hold just the coordinates confidential, as this guy did in his report. Now, the sensing data tell any guy with two sentences’ worth of interest where to go pillage for antiquities…

It’s still actually valuable to give the archaeologists time to schlep out there and excavate properly before the TikTokking hordes go mog all over it for clout or novelty or whatever the ephemeral currency is these days. The only possible reaction is for the people who labor to produce these data to start locking them away within the guild—much like the way you’ve gotta show your good-guy credentials to use Mythos for bug hunting…

joshdata a day ago

How do we know that this is a good thing? Putting a "Ruin here!" pushpin on a map and leaving the actual archeology to others sounds more like a vanity boost than an achievement, and at worst the opportunity for the site to be desecrated before anyone serious has a chance to study it.

It's like the new drive-by pull requests I'm getting in my open source repositories. No consideration for the people doing the actual work.

desterothx a day ago

Which is why he specifically didnt give a pushpin, and censored out the location and the region in the mail? Also whats stopping the bad actors from doing this work themselves (aside from the price, which im sure could be optimized for, if you don't have an unlimited budget of tokens), and then looting them while the real scientists are none the wiser?

StrLght a day ago

In a few days:

You're totally right! I led you to believe there's an undiscovered pyramid in Mexico, and I am sorry for this.

On a serious note — it's really cool to see people applying LLMs to other domains and yielding great preliminary results.

Aozora7 a day ago

You've heard about vibe coding, but have you heard of vibe archeology?

b3lvedere a day ago

It's vibes all the way down.

piltdownman a day ago

You've heard about humans doing pattern recognition based on established baselines? Hold my beer when I blow your mind about recent developments in computing.

jo-m a day ago

After OSS maintainers, archaeologists will be the next ones now to be swamped with AI generated reports...

techpression a day ago

Just wait until the religious people get a hold of this, Jesus will appear in every conceivable piece of material, not only toast.

piltdownman a day ago

To writ, parsing massive LiDAR datasets to spot repetitive, distinct geometric patterns is something that AI excels at. They are not subject to facial pareidolia like humans are - they have no hard-wired weighting to impose meaningful patterns onto random or ambiguous visual stimuli.

techpression a day ago

baken 19 hours ago

I did this two months ago with Claude. Google engineer forgetting Gemini is pacing the frontier

https://bakerbench.substack.com/p/i-went-looking-for-lost-ci...

tiffanyh 11 hours ago

How is this AI, and not just Lidar?

There’s no shortage of Lidar found lost city stories on HN over the past decade.

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

asdff 17 hours ago

This is cool but I mean "model finds ruin from lidar dataset" is sort of like the par for the course for this sort of data and modelling. Been getting headlines like this for years now. It isn't something that ai now enabled. AI just let you put out another paper using this method when you could have used methods 1-662 as well to put out a paper where you find an unmapped pyramid among lidar data.

mturmon 20 hours ago

> I was traveling in Peru, Gemini-ing about the history of the place, when I learned about Hiram Bingham, the American explorer who "discovered" Machu Picchu in 1911. [...] "Imagine if Bingham had our tools," I thought. "What would he do?"

Well, pretty much this: "discover" a Maya pyramid.

thomasben a day ago

@openai @anthropic @google @spacexai: can you please proceed with scanning the entire planet and let us know what you found?

Regards, — The world

fluidcruft a day ago

Don't give SpaceX ideas

lionkor a day ago

Especially billionaire islands, those need high resolution scanning just like everyone's living rooms. Let's make it happen @therealelonmusk

ashleyn a day ago

We got vibe archaeologists before GTA 6

sorrywhat 4 hours ago

  Me: OK, what should I do?
  Me: OK, how do I contact INAH? How does the reporting process work?
  Me: OK, please do the report.
computer what do? computer help. computer do thing for me. computer post blog please. computer post to HN for me.

If this is what people's sessions look like, no wonder everyone is so paranoid about getting replaced.

PinkaDunka a day ago

> At this point, we should probably lidar the whole planet and let the agents discover the rest.

Or! Maybe we should not look too close, because you never know what you will find!

musha68k a day ago

AI driven UAP detection incoming ;) It's SETI/BOINC all over again!

willcmcc 19 hours ago

mentioning num_agents in the headline or writeup is so deeply revealing, like hearing someone calling a codebase "the codes"

justplay a day ago

Launch a cancer agent too. Find a cure, deliver a breakthrough.That will be impressive

novideonoradio 20 hours ago

Regardless of how technologically impressive this is, the article and its author are completely insufferable. "I asked Gemini to imagine how it looked back then" ask Gemini to imagine you getting pussy

smugma a day ago

What Would Indiana Jones Do?

mad_ 21 hours ago

Did he go check it for gold, before posting about it online?

> No

lol, kids these days.

balls187 19 hours ago

Lol. This seems like an onion article.

varispeed a day ago

Why only 48?

iLoveOncall a day ago

It's often easy to find what nobody has been looking for.

hannofcart a day ago

You could say that about recent slew of CVEs as well.

And such findings are usually praiseworthy and valuable.

guerrilla a day ago

That's hardly relevant here.

Iolaum a day ago

Amazing!

_7cpy a day ago

So this is now another proof that Graham Hancock and Giorgio Tsoukalos are totally right. Right? Right?

www3344 21 hours ago

hola alex

nelsnelson a day ago

Now find Atlantis.

b3lvedere a day ago

My guess is that sonar would be better for that purpose.

jghn a day ago

It's relatively easy to find on the free streamers. For instance Pluto airs it on the Stargate channel.

m0llusk a day ago

Current scientific consensus is that Atlantis existed only as an invention in the writings of Plato.

alexpoco 20 hours ago

hola alex matate

tumdum_ 21 hours ago

> You can just do things.

I’m sorry, but you didn’t do much. The work was done by clankers.

www3344 21 hours ago

hollaaaaaa

sam1r a day ago

I have to be frankly honest -- I have a gut feeling -- regardless of what Pietro reported to the Mexican gov't, the binary response professionally is likely "Sorry, we didn't find it".

There is no reason for them to provide confirmation for internal inventory that Pietro passionately fingered from afar.

Which I think would make sense, ultimately. But now from the Mexico perspective, wouldn't they elicit more concern for others just mapping their terrain after a blog post like this goes viral?

Very meticulous, exciting work, nonetheless. I'm all for 3d lidar scanning the plannet!

thibran a day ago

What a failure of archeology, they should have done that before.

myrmidon a day ago

Why? The technology is pretty new.

It would not have been realistic to have PhD students manually comb through thousands of square kilometers of LIDAR data, and crossreference everything with existing sites; LLMs have turned this into low-hanging fruit.

Can't expect every single scientific field to immediately use any new technology to its full potential, and it makes you sound like a prick, too.

thibran a day ago

The world has general access to AI since years. Imagine you spend your life as archeologist, then when a new technology comes along that could revolutionize your field, you ignore it. Using AI to classify/search for locations is such a no brainer, that asking why it is not the norm, is a valid question. Humans should review the findings, but the boring work should probably be done by the machines.

GaunterODimm a day ago

ccortes 21 hours ago

piltdownman a day ago

Excusing a scientific field not embracing paradigm-shifting new developments isn't even an argument.

The real answer is financial incentives tied to publishing of research - something that academics in gatekept fields see as the thin edge of the wedge in exposing a utility/ROI gap for legacy practitioners.

igleria a day ago

Enjoy calling other people failures much? https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352409X2...