Former Nvidia CEO Huang had a relationship with a second employee, sources say (reuters.com)
135 points by jbredeche 8 hours ago
legitster 6 hours ago
There is an obvious pattern for these high level executive roles. They are all workaholics, they are not particularly loyal, they all have loose moral compasses, they don't have any clear line between work and their personal life, and they treat relationships like business arrangements.
This feels so common that I would not even be quick to assume this is some sort of unknown betrayal to his family. One of the revelations about the Gates' lives was that Bill's promiscuity was apparently baked into their marriage agreement. At this level, your marriage might just be like a fixed mailing address for someone who has multiple homes.
Not to excuse this in any way. But these are the personalities of medieval lords and kings.
famouswaffles 5 minutes ago
Jensen and Lori met in early 1980s or so when they were 17 and 19 years old respectively. Moreover they got married in 1985, 13 years before Nvidia was even founded. Quite different from Bill and Melinda hooking up after Microsoft don't you think ? Not to mention his apology.
sho_hn an hour ago
> One of the revelations about the Gates' lives was that Bill's promiscuity was apparently baked into their marriage agreement.
Are there details on this? Yes, I do like the sordid gossip.
sheepscreek 29 minutes ago
He would spend a week with a special friend every year (they'd hike together?), and this was in his marriage contract. That woman is now a VC. You can easily find out more if you google this.
qurren 9 minutes ago
hn_throwaway_99 7 minutes ago
> I would not even be quick to assume this is some sort of unknown betrayal to his family
But (unless "unknown" is doing a lot of work in your sentence) Huang literally said this in his letter to NVidia employees: "I was unfaithful to my wife. My actions hurt her and our children. There is no excuse for what I did. I am deeply sorry."
Otherwise, I agree with a lot of what you said. In the 2000-2015 timeframe, I really idolized a lot of these successful tech leaders - they seemed incredibly smart, hard-working, and talented (though also of course lucky). But over time I came to the realization that many of them just fundamentally think very differently than I do, and I view that other way of thinking with disgust. The main issue is it seems like nearly all of their relationships are transactional, and they have a lack of empathy and willingness to be ruthless that is simply anathema to me.
King-Aaron 2 hours ago
There's this little part of me wondering if this was all known about for a long time, and the sudden release of information about all three women is coordinated for some nefarious business reason.
CoolestBeans 42 minutes ago
The affairs were probably open secrets to those high up for a while. Once Jensen's reputation passes a perceived point of no return, it makes sense for the other higher ups to leak everything they know to the media to shorten the duration of the scandal. The worst has happened, their action will not change, so no need to drag it out.
mixmastamyk 2 hours ago
Whitehouse knew it months ago… why is it coming out after election? Not sure how it would have impacted it beforehand.
JumpCrisscross 24 minutes ago
> why is it coming out after election?
Jensen had the choice of coming clean like this, where half of Silicon Valley is rallying to his defence and he remains a multi-billionaire (and maybe saves his marriage), or having this exposed by the new Congress, at which point all manner of punitive countermeasures against Nvidia are on the table.
Currently, Energy & Commerce and Oversight & Investigations are asleep. Come January, they won't be.
Huang, like a lot of Silicon Valley, thought their guy would stay in power and protect them.
King-Aaron an hour ago
Maybe a way to dump stocks without everyone screaming insider trading.
monideas an hour ago
This is an obvious Chinese government op in coordination with US media to get him removed.
China manufactures their own AI chips now. It’s in their national interest to impede US progress in this area.
aurareturn 18 minutes ago
I'm more convinced by the hour that it's either OpenAI/Anthropic and their backers or some Chinese entity who set this up to get him removed.
jb1991 5 minutes ago
jbeyer 28 minutes ago
Jensen was the one pushing to get more chips into China. So China's master stroke was....to get him fired?
monideas 24 minutes ago
aurareturn 17 minutes ago
King-Aaron 31 minutes ago
I think it will become obvious who is pulling the strings when they decide on who takes the keys after Jensen.
antonvs 26 minutes ago
sho_hn an hour ago
Powerful men cheating is often normalized in their immediate environment. Jensen was seen with both women many times. It's the Chinese spy and export ban skirt angle that made it untenable.
Cf. the open secret nature around the entire Epstein cabal.
hn_throwaway_99 2 minutes ago
> and the sudden release of information about all three women is coordinated for some nefarious business reason.
This framing is plain silly because it ignores the sequence of events. NVidia conducted an investigation after Huang admitted to having an affair with someone the US Government believed to be a Chinese spy, and in any case NVidia sold billions worth of embargoed chips to that company (and now it seems we have some proof per another HN front page story that the latest leading Chinese open source models were trained on embargoed NVidia chips). So then the other 2 instances of infidelity came out in the course of the investigation - of course as they definitely should, otherwise it would be a really shitty investigation!
It's not like Huang's 3 paramours got together before the investigation started in some sort of nefarious plot.
xianshou 8 hours ago
If you find two ants in the kitchen, there are more than two ants in the kitchen.
dang an hour ago
It's true of kitchen-ant comments as well: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
We have to figure out where this comes from! It's so recent: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49828285 references https://x.com/_NathanCalvin/status/2084856543561093535 - that's the earliest I've seen so far. Others?
Edit: thanks ChatGPT: https://barrypopik.com/blog/there_is_never_one_cockroach_bus...
Proverb #232 of https://www.asau.ru/files/pdf/2759983.pdf says it's attested from 1991:
232 There is never just one cockroach. (1991)
Variant: There is never just one cockroach in the kitchen
Ants are nicer though.
mandevil an hour ago
Warren Buffet said the cockroach variant in his 1989 investor letter.
https://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/1989.html
"In a difficult business, no sooner is one problem solved than another surfaces - never is there just one cockroach in the kitchen."
gnabgib an hour ago
Possibly Nathan Calvin on Twitter in August: If you find two ants in your kitchen, the best estimate of the total number of ants in your kitchen is not two
August 5th about Open AI:
https://x.com/_NathanCalvin/status/2084856543561093535
September 4th.. still about Open AI:
https://x.com/_NathanCalvin/status/2095854095139537064
November 11th.. Alex Lawsen on Twitter, referencing Nathan's post (above):
Teever an hour ago
Completely tangential but I always find it interesting how different expressions become attached to specific contexts in people's heads.
"This old house as got good bones" is the realtor 'slaps roof of car' meme that seems to have caught on during the 2010s and peaked during COVID. Now I hear people mindlessly propagating it whenever they talk about renovating/buying an old home.
I'm sure that we'll be hearing this ants in the kitchen of the house with good bones thing forever now.
fritzo 7 hours ago
If the ant in your kitchen IPOs the same day you are evicted from your kitchen, the spies in your kitchen are not Chinese.
thehamkercat 7 hours ago
ANThropic IPO pun? in this economy?
rvz 6 hours ago
bayarearefugee 7 hours ago
> If you find two ants in the kitchen, there are more than two ants in the kitchen.
And Jensen Huang may have had an improper relationship with at least one of them.
sire-vc 14 minutes ago
That's a sensitive place to get bitten.
jombib 7 hours ago
listening to the verge?
bloopernova 6 hours ago
"I want a man with a short shirt, and a Huang jacket"
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I hope that the people he had affairs with are treated ok and not retaliated against or hounded by the world news media.
SoftTalker an hour ago
They weren't naive waifs. They knew what the deal was and who the dealer was.
sk5t 4 minutes ago
"Naïf" is the word you're looking for.
vjulian 3 hours ago
Why?
King-Aaron 2 hours ago
uuuuh because they're people?
lurker616 an hour ago
maxnevermind an hour ago
I wonder if he followed a modern trend and was on TRT, it seems like a pattern for celebrity/powerful men of age these days: get on TRT, get in shape, cheat on your wife.
throwayay58373 22 minutes ago
Do you suppose Sheryl Sandberg was also trying trt?
atleastoptimal 31 minutes ago
I always got the impression that it was somewhat of an open secret that most billionaires had soft harems of sorts, usually tacitly understood but never publicly addressed, and that the apparent outrage at affairs/scandals at this level is a sort of charade of allegiance to social norms to enforce the facade that standards of propriety apply even at the highest levels.
filipdobro 8 hours ago
This seems like a coordinated hit, slowly releasing more and more information. What's really going on?
nashashmi 7 hours ago
One affair always brings up other affairs out of the closet. Same rule goes for harassment and abuse claims.
That’s what is going on.
minimaxir 8 hours ago
The better metaphor is "where there's smoke, there's fire."
Three different news orgs have reported the different affairs.
austin-cheney 8 hours ago
Yes, one investigation begets others. Also, high profile witnesses come forward voluntarily once the screen is lifted on any unrelated investigation, but not typically before.
fritzo 7 hours ago
"where someone benefits from the fire, there's arson"
zamadatix 6 hours ago
afavour 7 hours ago
This happens all the time with news stories and doesn't require conspiracy theories. Once an initial story breaks, other journalists investigate (if they weren't already). No doubt Nvidia started investigating internally and employees will have leaked the findings.
There isn't really even any point in this third story from the point of view of any "coordinated attack". He's already resigned.
RussianBot9580 6 hours ago
Of course not. The board is finding out all these things on the same timeline we are. They are surprised like Pikachu.
perching_aix 2 hours ago
just to diversify this subthread a little, i actually do see the perspective: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50476972
tbf, these side affairs i think are more just people piling on
darth_avocado 7 hours ago
Correlation isn’t causation always. Once there’s a scandal, more people start digging, and the more they dig, the more they find. The news cycle continues rewarding more information, so you keep getting more.
uptrails 7 hours ago
Are you serious? He had multiple affairs is what's going on. Including one with a spy. And people who wouldn't be believed before are now coming forward.
There's probably some mildly interesting risk-balancing that happened behind the scenes because the intel community apparently knew mid-2026 and only spilled the beans now, but this is entirely of Jensen's own doing. He confessed.
He clearly is a top performer, though, managing four-plus relationships is a big job.
mandeepj 7 hours ago
> mid-2026
mid-2025*
breakwaterlabs 8 hours ago
> What's really going on?
A lesson, apparently, for everyone asking "what the big deal is".
If ever you wanted to understand the meaning of the word "liability", here it is.
"Coordinated hits", as you put it, have as their prerequisite the creation of a "liability".
kshacker 19 minutes ago
I am reminded of the tv series "the shield". When it ends, our guy is asked "what all do you have to declare". I am paraphrasing.
Pretty sure the board asked the same question. Having finally been called to do their work, they can't just close the books without asking "what else do you have to declare" to both Jensen and at least all the direct reportees. And if there was a declaration, you can always find someone to leak it to the media.
Not saying that happened, just saying that it is likely such direct questions were asked and answered last few days.
dofm 7 hours ago
Journalism plus circumstances loosening tongues and reducing the downside of being truthful.
As the British police are fond of saying in cold case appeals: allegiances shift.
nozzlegear 39 minutes ago
A serial adulterer is revealed to have adulterated serially, and SV types are spilling oodles of ink attempting to justify loose morals and bad decision-making so long as it brought increased shareholder value.
Betelbuddy 8 hours ago
Dont mess up with the intelligence community. He should have talked more to Jack Ma.
lhd1 an hour ago
journalists pumping their sources
drewbeck 6 hours ago
It's weird, right? You see the same thing in police investigations. Oh, they know some things early, then, later, release more information? We're not that dumb.
When a real scandal happens, everything we know or will ever know gets dropped all at once. Anything else and you know someone is pulling the strings. The question is who? My money is on the arrow of time.
stasomatic 2 hours ago
Entrapment, they (FBI, whatever) knew about the "spy" and yet didn't go like ... "Hey Jensen, we gotta tell you something..." Pathetic.
sandworm101 7 hours ago
>> What's really going on?
A shell game. This is the distraction portion. Then comes the switch, the reveal and the swipe. Watch the market indicators. Nobody buying and selling shares in a trillion-dollar company cares one iota about extramarital affairs. Something else is happening.
oceanplexian 4 minutes ago
First person who gets it. It’s 2026, there is no moral panic here. Shareholders don’t care. It’s all completely fake and orchestrated as cover for some other purpose (To offload shares or otherwise).
noident 7 hours ago
They might not care about affairs, but they are probably interested in the possibility that Nvidia circumvented US export controls, is being covertly influenced by China, and so on
iAMkenough 7 hours ago
As it turns out, Huang was a fallible human being.
fourside 7 hours ago
It sounds like it’s a bad idea to have a single fallible human be “the face of the AI book powering the US economy” as the NYTimes is calling Jensen.
Argonaut998 7 hours ago
So is Musk. So were Gates and Bezos
ranger_danger 7 hours ago
pylua 6 hours ago
Is this common at the board level of major companies and uncommon to get out? Or is this really uncommon.
SoftTalker an hour ago
It's as common as days of the week that end in the letter Y.
soupfordummies 7 hours ago
feel bad for his wife man, has to be rough to keep seeing this
bushwart 7 hours ago
I wouldn't be surprised if she's known for years, if not decades. If she wants out she always has the Melinda Gates option.
cwnyth 6 hours ago
I think people would be shocked to find out just how common "don't ask, don't tell" is among couples, especially among the rich, famous, and powerful. Everyone ganged up on Jada Smith until Will admitted he too sought outside "entanglements." Most couples who do this just hide it well enough, and it's only a problem when one of them is caught.
Not all, very likely not even most, of course, do this, and it's not always truly mutual or healthy, but surprise surprise, not every couple wants strict monogamy. They just don't want society to judge them for it.
10xDev 7 hours ago
TIL: True monogamy only appears in 3-5% of mammals in the animal kingdom.
combobyte 6 hours ago
I'm sure his wife feels reassured by that statistic.
petra 6 hours ago
I'm sure she knew.
combobyte 6 hours ago
epolanski 5 hours ago
When you see two ants in the kitchen there's likely many more.
Huang has been a great boss and steward of Nvidia, but ultimately falling for subordinates is grave enough, adding alleged Chinese spies, and allegations you sold Tencent billions of hardware through shady Singaporean companies for which the alleged spy worked etc and the board had no other options.
At this point it would be surprising if what we know is likely a small part and the Nvidia board saw enough very quickly to ask for his head.
soraminazuki 4 hours ago
There's no need to look. Jensen Huang might have been great for his shareholders, but he sure has been screwing the rest of us over hard.
He was responsible for hanging consumers out to dry by destroying the consumer PC market in chase of more profit. He is gambling with the world economy. He appears on interviews being a dick about all of this.
So I'd say this is very much in character for him.
NetMageSCW 4 hours ago
He (and nVidia) have no responsibility to consumers. They have a responsibility to their largest customers and to their shareholders.
bushliketheplan 3 hours ago
lotsofpulp 3 hours ago
All the irrelevant ant kitchen posts really drives home the dead internet theory.
Rapzid an hour ago
It shouldn't be surprise we are seeing so many of these posts surface.
After all, when you see two ants in the kitchen..
qwerpy 43 minutes ago
I click on these ant kitchen people expecting some new account with 3 karma, nope, old ass accounts with lots of karma. Humans and bots converging in functionality.
misiti3780 7 hours ago
I would if he went to bed everything realizing this is how it could all end?
happytoexplain 7 hours ago
Is it so bad? He founded one of history's most successful companies in one of the most exciting sectors on the planet and ran it for 33 years. He's 63.
The only thing that would actually be bad is if his wife left him, which we don't know is happening yet. Some women accept the "risk" (to put it tastelessly) of marrying a hundred-billionaire, and stick it out.
reorder9695 7 hours ago
Depends on what he values, I don't think I'd be any happier with 150bn than maybe 100m, they're both large enough that I couldn't possibly see myself spending it. Not with this specific case, but I often see people saying/implying people must be happy because they're rich/founded a successful company/achieved something great/<insert desirable thing here>.
I guess people often think the things they imagine making themselves happy would make someone else who has that happy, and I just don't think that's the case that often. I don't think money buys happiness after a point, a certain amount gets rid of a lot of discomfort and stress and brings relief and security, a bit more can buy some happiness, after that it's just number go up.
argee 7 hours ago
stasomatic 2 hours ago
happytoexplain 7 hours ago
petra 6 hours ago
summa_tech an hour ago
She didn't marry a hundred-billionaire. They met as students at Oregon State. :(
watwut 6 hours ago
> The only thing that would actually be bad
Would be investigation ending in jail time.
afavour 5 hours ago
At the current rate of disclosure Huang is going to be revealed to have had an affair with every woman in the world by 2038. It’s vital that we build out infrastructure to support this if we don’t want to be left behind.
At least we’ve now passed the tipping point where the majority of affairs are domestic. Some country out there is going to achieve HSM (Huang Second Marriage) and it’s vital to future prosperity that we make sure it’s the US.
Slartie 5 hours ago
"Claude, build me a website that tracks with whom Jensen Huang had an affair yet! Register the domain hasjensenhuanghadanaffair.with and treat GETs on subdirectories as names for queries, like hasjensenhuanghadanaffair.with/JaneDoe should display whether he had an affair with Jane Doe."
bombcar 3 hours ago
respond "YES" 200solyin 3 hours ago
mekael 4 hours ago
sigh, another 2038 problem to solve.
debrisontrack 8 hours ago
I don't who the 3rd affair will be with, but the 4th one will be with sticks and stones
mkrishnan 8 hours ago
:)
Betelbuddy 8 hours ago
That is it...I am buying a leather jacket!
flowerlad 7 hours ago
You also need employees.
ergocoder 7 hours ago
and revenue. don't forget the revenue.
greenowl 7 hours ago
Maybe aging to 60+ won't be that bad? Thank you Jensen for showing younger men there is hope.
randycupertino 7 hours ago
Step 1: Be a famous Billionaire CEO.
mkrishnan 8 hours ago
Buy a brown one
lukeify 25 minutes ago
Might be quicker to start asking which Nvidia employees he didn't sleep with.
minimaxir 8 hours ago
One affair is a scandal.
Two affairs is a pattern.
Three affairs is just funny.
nashashmi 7 hours ago
Bill Gates had a similar pattern
chinathrow 6 hours ago
He had 3, had to look it up.
Betelbuddy 8 hours ago
One relationship per GPU core.
pndy 7 hours ago
There are memes about... running SLI <wink wink nudge nudge>
And frankly at this point, where nothing surprises you anymore we should probably just enjoy some stupid pictures with captions
anotherengineer 8 hours ago
stop it!! he's already dead!!
in all seriousness though, what is going on? everything here feels well timed and coordinated. were the powers that be just waiting for US midterms to pass? is there any relationship to the anthropic IPO? my tin foil hat is going to be working overtime these next few days
vizzier 8 hours ago
Plenty of benign explanations without needing tinfoil
- The affair(s) were so badly hidden that they became obvious once one was exposed
- High profile CEO of one of the biggest companies in the world means a lot of eyes
- something akin to the Streisand effect keeps things in the news cycle
ribosometronome 8 hours ago
Yeah, hundreds of reporters suddenly being interested in the story after the initial news broke shines a lot more lights on things.
peter422 8 hours ago
The initial story about the spy dropped on October 29th, before the midterms.
At that point it was probably just a matter of time until the rest came out.
reasonableklout 6 hours ago
I mean it’s just much more of a favorable political environment for the board to investigate Huang. And journalists know that if there’s smoke, there’s likely fire. So it seems like a pretty natural pile-on if anything.
It is kinda weird that Jensen decided to resign so quickly though. I would’ve expected a longer investigation period involving both the board and Congress.
numberwan9 6 hours ago
Parallel execution in action
knollimar 4 hours ago
Need a power of 2 now
haunter 7 hours ago
Amateur. Tiger Woods had at least 9 extramarital affairs.
lavendermon 7 hours ago
Jensen has had a heck of a ride, fastest rise and fall we've seen in a while. Looks like he didn't handle the attention very well.
jdlshore 6 hours ago
Fast fall, yes, but his rise has been years in the making.
lavendermon 6 hours ago
I should've worded my post differently. Jensen had a fast rise as a household name and the attention that came with it. Before 2020 I doubt more than 2% of the population could've named the CEO of Nvidia.
siva7 6 hours ago
xeonmc 4 hours ago
pedalpete 6 hours ago
Decades actually!
cbsmith 6 minutes ago
[delayed]
jacekm 6 hours ago
Having a cushion of $145B he won't be hurt from the fall.
onlypassingthru 5 hours ago
California is a community property state. Lori is about to take control of her half of that in 3, 2, 1...
NordStreamYacht 20 minutes ago
jdlshore 3 hours ago
lp92 5 hours ago
Sure, but jail time for bypassing the export ban can definitely make it harder to use the money. Then again, given his affiliation with the POTUS he probably won't get jail time.
Isamu 6 hours ago
I thought attention is all you need.
sys_64738 4 hours ago
Who gives a damn who he is having an r-ship with. It's 2026.
rooftopzen 2 hours ago
Parrots another article - even w ", Report Says" as the end of the headline.
The original article is from Reuters, partially written by this woman below whose history is all Washington stories then bam 4 articles on Nvidia and tech.
https://www.reuters.com/authors/alexandra-alper/
Appears to be manipulated news (which we're used to), story is real but should be seen through that lens - why?
dang an hour ago
(This must have originally been posted to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50473868 - we've since merged the threads.)
perching_aix 2 hours ago
It all lining up perfectly with their quarterly earnings call does seem like a bit of a strange coincidence at the very least.
These are also not actually new developments, but years old. So they could have easily been stockpiled ahead of time, ready to deploy when opportune. Or maybe that's just standard when you're high profile enough? It's like accumulating and strategically burning 0 days. Or trading them for that matter.
Or at least the original report was like this. These newer ones are perfectly well explained by opportunism imo, if one is to believe that the anonymous sources really are company internal.
JumpCrisscross 12 minutes ago
> lining up perfectly with their quarterly earnings call
Availability heuristic. A short seller was writing about Nvidia's China-disclosure problem in May. Huang's affair with Ms. Huang came out before Halloween. If one month before earnings is fair game, then you're going to have a lot of conspiracies to clean up.
shrike 7 hours ago
I can't believe Jensen Huang popped the AI bubble with his d*ck...
afavour 7 hours ago
To a certain point I don't really care about how many subordinates it ends up being (something tells me there are more), but it does make all of the grindset quotes CEOs like Huang barf up all the more laughable.
> “I work every day. There’s not a day that goes by that I don’t work. And if I’m not working, I’m thinking about work.”
> “I wake up at 5am, and the moment I wake up, I start working… I’m asleep probably by 9:30pm.
https://www.startuparchive.org/p/jensen-huang-there-s-hard-w...
A lot of people have said Nvidia are crazy to get rid of Huang, that he's a singular irreplaceable talent. What if, perhaps, he's not all he's made out to be?
happytoexplain 7 hours ago
His affairs are clearly reprehensible, but what does this have to do with how hard he works?
ceejayoz 7 hours ago
He has time for at least four romantic relationships.
talmr 34 minutes ago
randycupertino 7 hours ago
afavour 7 hours ago
He very clearly isn't fully dedicated to his work, given his multiple affairs with his employees. Someone that was _actually_ laser focused on their company would, you know, not sleep with employees.
happytoexplain 7 hours ago
ex-aws-dude 6 hours ago
Look, what happens between a billionaire CEO, three consenting adults, and a Singaporean shell company is a personal matter that should not concern us
- Hacker News
combobyte 6 hours ago
You would do the same thing in his position!
- Also Hacker News
georgemcbay 5 hours ago
People love to self-report by announcing what "everyone" would do in different situations.
bell-cot 6 hours ago
At how many $billion of market value should a board just figure that it's a cost of doing business to hire retired spooks to keep track of the CEO's personal life, and ensure that he has a pipeline of well-paid, background-checked, NDA-signed mistresses available to divert his eyes from the employees and spies?
rvz 8 hours ago
There are three "I"s in NVIDIA (latin)
thibsrn 7 hours ago
I mean he's the boss of a GPU company, no surprise he's having affairs in parallel.
dist-epoch 7 hours ago
These AI slop chinese soap-operas are so good...